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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/07/the-fundamental-question-of-2006/#comment-18205</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the words of (George C. Scott playing) Patton, &quot;I read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yuni.com/library/latin.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;your book&lt;/a&gt;, you bastard, I read your book!&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the words of (George C. Scott playing) Patton, &#8220;I read <a href="http://www.yuni.com/library/latin.html" rel="nofollow">your book</a>, you bastard, I read your book!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/07/the-fundamental-question-of-2006/#comment-18204</link>
		<dc:creator>drpedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 03:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leo is just jealous cause you one-upped him on the latin non sequiturs....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leo is just jealous cause you one-upped him on the latin non sequiturs&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/07/the-fundamental-question-of-2006/#comment-18203</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gilligans Island?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gilligans Island?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/07/the-fundamental-question-of-2006/#comment-18202</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 01:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Insula gilliganis&lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Insula gilliganis</i></p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/07/the-fundamental-question-of-2006/#comment-18201</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doo be doo be doo.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doo be doo be doo.</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/07/the-fundamental-question-of-2006/#comment-18200</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 19:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...non mihi, non tibi, sed nobis...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;non mihi, non tibi, sed nobis&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/07/the-fundamental-question-of-2006/#comment-18199</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cleo: Now you&#039;re writing &lt;i&gt;non sequiturs&lt;/i&gt; in two languages?

&lt;i&gt;Docendo discimus&lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cleo: Now you&#8217;re writing <i>non sequiturs</i> in two languages?</p>
<p><i>Docendo discimus</i></p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/07/the-fundamental-question-of-2006/#comment-18198</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 14:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aut disce aut discede.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aut disce aut discede.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/07/the-fundamental-question-of-2006/#comment-18197</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 12:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slightly OT, here&#039;s why &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/060108/w010874.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I hate Hugo Chavez&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slightly OT, here&#8217;s why <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/060108/w010874.html" rel="nofollow">I hate Hugo Chavez</a></p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/07/the-fundamental-question-of-2006/#comment-18196</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 12:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr P: I must take issue with your 9:56 PM comment: there is a difference between the left wingers&#039; (anti - war) &quot;any service will do&quot; attitude, and getting a medal in the Special Olympics.
Everyone in the Special Olympics at least tries.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr P: I must take issue with your 9:56 PM comment: there is a difference between the left wingers&#8217; (anti &#8211; war) &#8220;any service will do&#8221; attitude, and getting a medal in the Special Olympics.<br />
Everyone in the Special Olympics at least tries.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/07/the-fundamental-question-of-2006/#comment-18195</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 11:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Cleo,they are not the same.

In terms of National Service, there are a limited number of distinct types:

1) People who actually volunteer for service, or submit to Selective Service

2) People who because of sincere principle, cannot or will not serve in the military.

3) People who agree to limited types of service (usually, noncombat) to fulfill their obligation.

4) The most loathsome type: The type who says &quot;This war is not worthy of my participation; it is, in my opinion, unjustified or unwarranted.&quot;

Any reasonable person can determine which of these is &quot;greater than the other.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Cleo,they are not the same.</p>
<p>In terms of National Service, there are a limited number of distinct types:</p>
<p>1) People who actually volunteer for service, or submit to Selective Service</p>
<p>2) People who because of sincere principle, cannot or will not serve in the military.</p>
<p>3) People who agree to limited types of service (usually, noncombat) to fulfill their obligation.</p>
<p>4) The most loathsome type: The type who says &#8220;This war is not worthy of my participation; it is, in my opinion, unjustified or unwarranted.&#8221;</p>
<p>Any reasonable person can determine which of these is &#8220;greater than the other.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/07/the-fundamental-question-of-2006/#comment-18194</link>
		<dc:creator>drpedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 04:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leo:  Lord of the Non Sequitur....although it is one way of extricating oneself from a losing argument, a postion Leo here is all too familiar with
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leo:  Lord of the Non Sequitur&#8230;.although it is one way of extricating oneself from a losing argument, a postion Leo here is all too familiar with</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/07/the-fundamental-question-of-2006/#comment-18193</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.......aegrescit medendo..
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8230;.aegrescit medendo..</p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/07/the-fundamental-question-of-2006/#comment-18192</link>
		<dc:creator>drpedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 02:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wish that were true....but we don&#039;t live in a world where &quot;none is greater than the other&quot;.  People who don&#039;t actually serve in any respect really like that quote though.

You know, they figure life is just like the special olympics, everyone gets a medal....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wish that were true&#8230;.but we don&#8217;t live in a world where &#8220;none is greater than the other&#8221;.  People who don&#8217;t actually serve in any respect really like that quote though.</p>
<p>You know, they figure life is just like the special olympics, everyone gets a medal&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/07/the-fundamental-question-of-2006/#comment-18191</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 01:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I like about Dugger is that he served in the military, as I understand it, for quite a few years.  He doesn&#039;t have to keep reassuring
himself of his sense of patriotism, by acting as self-appointed town crier
exhaling his virtues from the diaphram.  Sometimes one&#039;s service
is unremarkable, and for others, extraordinary.  What is it about the
Pharisees  and Saducees who trumpeted their righteousness down every
street in Jerusalem?  Were they interested in service, or was it adulation?

Each must determine the type of service he can give.  None is greater than
another.  But sometimes it is remarkable, and as such, is it&#039;s own reward
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I like about Dugger is that he served in the military, as I understand it, for quite a few years.  He doesn&#8217;t have to keep reassuring<br />
himself of his sense of patriotism, by acting as self-appointed town crier<br />
exhaling his virtues from the diaphram.  Sometimes one&#8217;s service<br />
is unremarkable, and for others, extraordinary.  What is it about the<br />
Pharisees  and Saducees who trumpeted their righteousness down every<br />
street in Jerusalem?  Were they interested in service, or was it adulation?</p>
<p>Each must determine the type of service he can give.  None is greater than<br />
another.  But sometimes it is remarkable, and as such, is it&#8217;s own reward</p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/07/the-fundamental-question-of-2006/#comment-18190</link>
		<dc:creator>drpedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea, now it isn&#039;t just silence, the crickets have started up......
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea, now it isn&#8217;t just silence, the crickets have started up&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/07/the-fundamental-question-of-2006/#comment-18189</link>
		<dc:creator>drpedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Quaker you are saying you respect those guys Cheney et al right?  Cause they didn&#039;t fight in that &quot;unethical&quot; war?

I never had to &quot;bear arms&quot;, but I served this country honorably, picking up my wife and 3 month old baby and forward deploying 1 week after 9/11.  What sort of sacrifice did you have for this country?  How about OW?  Ryland?  JohnS. Semanticleo? Mr. Pidge?

All I hear is a deafening silence........
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Quaker you are saying you respect those guys Cheney et al right?  Cause they didn&#8217;t fight in that &#8220;unethical&#8221; war?</p>
<p>I never had to &#8220;bear arms&#8221;, but I served this country honorably, picking up my wife and 3 month old baby and forward deploying 1 week after 9/11.  What sort of sacrifice did you have for this country?  How about OW?  Ryland?  JohnS. Semanticleo? Mr. Pidge?</p>
<p>All I hear is a deafening silence&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/07/the-fundamental-question-of-2006/#comment-18188</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So Quaker you are saying you respect those guys Cheney et al right? Cause they didn t fight in that  unethical  war?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I wrote nothing of the kind.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So Quaker you are saying you respect those guys Cheney et al right? Cause they didn t fight in that  unethical  war?</p></blockquote>
<p>I wrote nothing of the kind.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/07/the-fundamental-question-of-2006/#comment-18187</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;No, Quaker, you forgot,  Thank God I live in a country that doesn t clap me in jail for the duration.  &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I do live in a country that &quot;doesn&#039;t clap me in jail for the duration,&quot; Frank, but it wasn&#039;t always that way.

During World War II, 6,000 Quaker conscientious objectors were put in prison for refusing the draft. Another 12,000 were pressed into various forms of alternative service, including working as fire jumpers and even as human subjects of medical experimentation.

If it&#039;s not that way now, it&#039;s not because of divine intervention. It&#039;s because Quaker men and women quietly and forcefully stood for their right to conscience. They risked far more than those I quoted above would ever consider risking.

Just in case you don&#039;t recognize the quotes, those were the excuses given by Dick Cheney, Rush Limbaugh, George Bush, and Tom DeLay when it was their turn to be drafted.

You see, defense of our national values can come in many forms. Not all who trumpet those values are willing to sacrifice for them. The willingness to bear arms is not the only way it gets done.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No, Quaker, you forgot,  Thank God I live in a country that doesn t clap me in jail for the duration.  </p></blockquote>
<p>I do live in a country that &#8220;doesn&#8217;t clap me in jail for the duration,&#8221; Frank, but it wasn&#8217;t always that way.</p>
<p>During World War II, 6,000 Quaker conscientious objectors were put in prison for refusing the draft. Another 12,000 were pressed into various forms of alternative service, including working as fire jumpers and even as human subjects of medical experimentation.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s not that way now, it&#8217;s not because of divine intervention. It&#8217;s because Quaker men and women quietly and forcefully stood for their right to conscience. They risked far more than those I quoted above would ever consider risking.</p>
<p>Just in case you don&#8217;t recognize the quotes, those were the excuses given by Dick Cheney, Rush Limbaugh, George Bush, and Tom DeLay when it was their turn to be drafted.</p>
<p>You see, defense of our national values can come in many forms. Not all who trumpet those values are willing to sacrifice for them. The willingness to bear arms is not the only way it gets done.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recognized the quotes, Quaker. Too bad you couldn&#039;t leave well enough alone. You just had to rush to poor John S.&#039;s defense.

Like he needs any help being an obnoxious prick.

Not all the people who don&#039;t go to war have noble motives, no matter what their ideology might be.

Come down off that high horse before you get a nose bleed.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recognized the quotes, Quaker. Too bad you couldn&#8217;t leave well enough alone. You just had to rush to poor John S.&#8217;s defense.</p>
<p>Like he needs any help being an obnoxious prick.</p>
<p>Not all the people who don&#8217;t go to war have noble motives, no matter what their ideology might be.</p>
<p>Come down off that high horse before you get a nose bleed.</p>
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