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		<title>By: buma</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/16/bushs-illegal-spying/#comment-16117</link>
		<dc:creator>buma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 13:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from Atrios:

Bush speech, April 20, 2004:

&quot;Secondly, there are such things as roving wiretaps. Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we&#039;re talking about chasing down terrorists, we&#039;re talking about getting a court order before we do so. It&#039;s important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the Constitution.&quot;

Except when we don&#039;t. Whatta LIAR.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from Atrios:</p>
<p>Bush speech, April 20, 2004:</p>
<p>&#8220;Secondly, there are such things as roving wiretaps. Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires &#8212; a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we&#8217;re talking about chasing down terrorists, we&#8217;re talking about getting a court order before we do so. It&#8217;s important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the Constitution.&#8221;</p>
<p>Except when we don&#8217;t. Whatta LIAR.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Schmoe</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/16/bushs-illegal-spying/#comment-16116</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Schmoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 21:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silly Liberals...believing the Bill of Rights is still the law of the land.  Gee whiz, most conservatives know that only the right to own guns is actually supported by the Bill of RIghts.   The BIll of RIghts is dead...absolutely positively dead because it is an inconvenience to democratic government.  Now get out there and vote.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silly Liberals&#8230;believing the Bill of Rights is still the law of the land.  Gee whiz, most conservatives know that only the right to own guns is actually supported by the Bill of RIghts.   The BIll of RIghts is dead&#8230;absolutely positively dead because it is an inconvenience to democratic government.  Now get out there and vote.</p>
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		<title>By: muscleheadblog</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/16/bushs-illegal-spying/#comment-16115</link>
		<dc:creator>muscleheadblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 18:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Brandon, how dare the left be outraged that the media reported something illegal that your Flyboy Bushie did and not be outraged that the MSM didn&#039;t behave Faux like and suck Bushie&#039;s tailpipe?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Brandon, how dare the left be outraged that the media reported something illegal that your Flyboy Bushie did and not be outraged that the MSM didn&#8217;t behave Faux like and suck Bushie&#8217;s tailpipe?</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/16/bushs-illegal-spying/#comment-16114</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 06:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or how the media illegally leaked the existence of this program thereby jeopardizing more than a few investigations.

Or do you lefties only worry about leaks when it only involves Valerie Plame?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or how the media illegally leaked the existence of this program thereby jeopardizing more than a few investigations.</p>
<p>Or do you lefties only worry about leaks when it only involves Valerie Plame?</p>
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		<title>By: teflon_tim</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/16/bushs-illegal-spying/#comment-16113</link>
		<dc:creator>teflon_tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 05:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Delurks and posts here for the first time*

Gee, notice how all the usual right-wing trolls are awfully silent on this one?  It&#039;s almost as if they know they don&#039;t have a leg to stand on.  After all the spin and all the bluster, there&#039;s simply no getting around the fact that Dubya broke the law here.

But I&#039;d love to see them try...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Delurks and posts here for the first time*</p>
<p>Gee, notice how all the usual right-wing trolls are awfully silent on this one?  It&#8217;s almost as if they know they don&#8217;t have a leg to stand on.  After all the spin and all the bluster, there&#8217;s simply no getting around the fact that Dubya broke the law here.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;d love to see them try&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sooperedd</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/16/bushs-illegal-spying/#comment-16112</link>
		<dc:creator>sooperedd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 04:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It all boils down to:
Bush &quot;Hates our Freedom&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It all boils down to:<br />
Bush &#8220;Hates our Freedom&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/16/bushs-illegal-spying/#comment-16111</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mydd.com/story/2005/12/16/183033/05&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mydd.com/story/2005/12/16/183033/05&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mydd.com/story/2005/12/16/183033/05&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Interesting concept.  Would you contribute $ to prevent illegal spying on US citizens?
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<p>Interesting concept.  Would you contribute $ to prevent illegal spying on US citizens?</p>
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		<title>By: buma</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/16/bushs-illegal-spying/#comment-16110</link>
		<dc:creator>buma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCafferty said it better than I did:

Who cares about whether the Patriot Act gets renewed? Want to abuse our civil liberties? Just do it.

Who cares about the Geneva Conventions. Want to torture prisoners? Just do it.

Who cares about rules concerning the identity of CIA agents. Want to reveal the name of a covert operative? Just do it.

Who cares about whether the intelligence concerning WMDS is accurate. Want to invade Iraq? Just do it.

Who cares about qualifications to serve on the nation&#039;s highest court. Want to nominate a personal friend with no qualifications? Just do it.

And the latest outrage, which I read about in &quot;The New York Times&quot; this morning, who cares about needing a court order to eavesdrop on American citizens. Want to wiretap their phone conversations? Just do it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCafferty said it better than I did:</p>
<p>Who cares about whether the Patriot Act gets renewed? Want to abuse our civil liberties? Just do it.</p>
<p>Who cares about the Geneva Conventions. Want to torture prisoners? Just do it.</p>
<p>Who cares about rules concerning the identity of CIA agents. Want to reveal the name of a covert operative? Just do it.</p>
<p>Who cares about whether the intelligence concerning WMDS is accurate. Want to invade Iraq? Just do it.</p>
<p>Who cares about qualifications to serve on the nation&#8217;s highest court. Want to nominate a personal friend with no qualifications? Just do it.</p>
<p>And the latest outrage, which I read about in &#8220;The New York Times&#8221; this morning, who cares about needing a court order to eavesdrop on American citizens. Want to wiretap their phone conversations? Just do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/16/bushs-illegal-spying/#comment-16109</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really.  If republicans can semanticize words like &#039;torture&#039; and &#039;lies,&#039; do you think they have any problem with the word, &#039;law&#039;?

Bush is the Law.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really.  If republicans can semanticize words like &#8216;torture&#8217; and &#8216;lies,&#8217; do you think they have any problem with the word, &#8216;law&#8217;?</p>
<p>Bush is the Law.</p>
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		<title>By: buma</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/16/bushs-illegal-spying/#comment-16108</link>
		<dc:creator>buma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Throw that one on the impeachment pile. Is anyone actually surprised about illegal spying on Amaericans though, with the Cheney Administration in the White House?? The public is already so jaded with the high crimes and misdemeanors by this group that this news hardly even registers. IOKIYAR, as long as the GOP controls the legislative branch.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Throw that one on the impeachment pile. Is anyone actually surprised about illegal spying on Amaericans though, with the Cheney Administration in the White House?? The public is already so jaded with the high crimes and misdemeanors by this group that this news hardly even registers. IOKIYAR, as long as the GOP controls the legislative branch.</p>
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