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		<title>By: johnnyprogressive</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/15/the-iraqi-election/#comment-16053</link>
		<dc:creator>johnnyprogressive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank, I didnt say anyhting about the importance of your reasons either. But WMD didnt even get a mention, regardless of where on your heirarchy of rationales it fell.

We dont have to depserately cling to the notion that this war has ruined Bush. His poll ratings have been in the toilet for months. Hes up 2 points in a Fox News poll though! 42% yipeeee! (though low ratings  might be aided by the Mieirs (sp?) nomination, the Katrina response, Plamegate, ouch hold on Im getting carpel tunnel from typing all the reasons book the Bush presidency is a failed one).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, I didnt say anyhting about the importance of your reasons either. But WMD didnt even get a mention, regardless of where on your heirarchy of rationales it fell.</p>
<p>We dont have to depserately cling to the notion that this war has ruined Bush. His poll ratings have been in the toilet for months. Hes up 2 points in a Fox News poll though! 42% yipeeee! (though low ratings  might be aided by the Mieirs (sp?) nomination, the Katrina response, Plamegate, ouch hold on Im getting carpel tunnel from typing all the reasons book the Bush presidency is a failed one).</p>
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		<title>By: John S.</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/15/the-iraqi-election/#comment-16052</link>
		<dc:creator>John S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 03:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I told you your anger was messing with your mind&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yawn.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I told you your anger was messing with your mind</p></blockquote>
<p>Yawn.</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/15/the-iraqi-election/#comment-16051</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr P;

You, are my evidence.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr P;</p>
<p>You, are my evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/15/the-iraqi-election/#comment-16050</link>
		<dc:creator>drpedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahhh yes, the famous ad hominem attack and invective....the last refuge of a leftist without an argument or evidence.

And to stoop so low as to compare us to coral!

ah...the humanity of it all......!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahhh yes, the famous ad hominem attack and invective&#8230;.the last refuge of a leftist without an argument or evidence.</p>
<p>And to stoop so low as to compare us to coral!</p>
<p>ah&#8230;the humanity of it all&#8230;&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/15/the-iraqi-election/#comment-16049</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The conservatives penchance for &#039;unity&#039; as well as the closed- loop thought process that usually attends your tribe, creates a form of rigor mortis in your &#039;black and white&#039; cells. (normally I would say &#039;grey&#039; cells, but shades of grey seem to confound you folks.)  Such inflexibility is like a kind of coral which is a formidible obstacle to ships of trade and recreation.  But that sort of strength is a weakness when it provides no give-and-take in the exchange of ideas.

It would be incorrect to say all conservatives lack &#039;critical thinking&#039;.  Some conservatives manage a delicate balancing act between reality and fantasy and thus maintain some cerebral excellence.  It has it&#039;s drawbacks for these few.  They must jump from lily pad to lily pad quickly, lest the sheer weight drop them in the drink.  Alas, this minority is the exception which proves the rule, which I fear to say, leaves you out zorro.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The conservatives penchance for &#8216;unity&#8217; as well as the closed- loop thought process that usually attends your tribe, creates a form of rigor mortis in your &#8216;black and white&#8217; cells. (normally I would say &#8216;grey&#8217; cells, but shades of grey seem to confound you folks.)  Such inflexibility is like a kind of coral which is a formidible obstacle to ships of trade and recreation.  But that sort of strength is a weakness when it provides no give-and-take in the exchange of ideas.</p>
<p>It would be incorrect to say all conservatives lack &#8216;critical thinking&#8217;.  Some conservatives manage a delicate balancing act between reality and fantasy and thus maintain some cerebral excellence.  It has it&#8217;s drawbacks for these few.  They must jump from lily pad to lily pad quickly, lest the sheer weight drop them in the drink.  Alas, this minority is the exception which proves the rule, which I fear to say, leaves you out zorro.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/15/the-iraqi-election/#comment-16048</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, population growth is not exponential, it&#039;s a Fiibonacci series.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, population growth is not exponential, it&#8217;s a Fiibonacci series.</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/15/the-iraqi-election/#comment-16047</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the &#039;limited activity&#039; portion  would have special meaning for you, Frankie.

BTW,  your proud display of book knowledge is a weak substitute for mental acuity.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the &#8216;limited activity&#8217; portion  would have special meaning for you, Frankie.</p>
<p>BTW,  your proud display of book knowledge is a weak substitute for mental acuity.</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/15/the-iraqi-election/#comment-16046</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, Frankie.  Does it really take six minutes to go from your first thought, to compeleting your second?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, Frankie.  Does it really take six minutes to go from your first thought, to compeleting your second?</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/15/the-iraqi-election/#comment-16045</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The exponential inbreeding amongst non-progressives may increase the repetitive talking points, but they are no substitute for critical thinking.

Maybe a tin-foil hat would improve the neural pathways and bypass the more inert zones of limited activity.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The exponential inbreeding amongst non-progressives may increase the repetitive talking points, but they are no substitute for critical thinking.</p>
<p>Maybe a tin-foil hat would improve the neural pathways and bypass the more inert zones of limited activity.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/15/the-iraqi-election/#comment-16044</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooh, Cleo, what big words you use! If only they had meaning!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh, Cleo, what big words you use! If only they had meaning!</p>
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		<title>By: zorro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/15/the-iraqi-election/#comment-16043</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>leo:
you and the other &quot;libruls&quot; at this (and other) sites constantly repeat that it is only you that thinks critically.  You bleat this constantly as if you are trying to convince yourselves that it is true.  This is clear evidence that you lack the ability to think clearly about such an emotional issue.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>leo:<br />
you and the other &#8220;libruls&#8221; at this (and other) sites constantly repeat that it is only you that thinks critically.  You bleat this constantly as if you are trying to convince yourselves that it is true.  This is clear evidence that you lack the ability to think clearly about such an emotional issue.</p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/15/the-iraqi-election/#comment-16042</link>
		<dc:creator>drpedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said zorro....well said
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said zorro&#8230;.well said</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/15/the-iraqi-election/#comment-16041</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John S. I meant &lt;i&gt;your&lt;/i&gt; comment was a response, not an attack.

Now who&#039;s getting defensive?

My comment was in response to Johnnyprogressive, not you.

I told you your anger was messing with your mind
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John S. I meant <i>your</i> comment was a response, not an attack.</p>
<p>Now who&#8217;s getting defensive?</p>
<p>My comment was in response to Johnnyprogressive, not you.</p>
<p>I told you your anger was messing with your mind</p>
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		<title>By: zorro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/15/the-iraqi-election/#comment-16040</link>
		<dc:creator>zorro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>factcheck:
Hope springs eternal.  However, it hasn&#039;t been hope that has kept &quot;progressives&quot; like you out of power for the past  generation, just common sense.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>factcheck:<br />
Hope springs eternal.  However, it hasn&#8217;t been hope that has kept &#8220;progressives&#8221; like you out of power for the past  generation, just common sense.</p>
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		<title>By: John S.</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/15/the-iraqi-election/#comment-16039</link>
		<dc:creator>John S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;{aside to John S. That was a response, not an attack, understand, now?} &lt;/blockquote&gt;

It was a comment, not a response.

A response implies that you actually respond to comments made by someone else. Getting up on your soapbox to rail about something that is irrelevant to the comments made by someone that you think you are addressing is not a response.

Do you understand the difference between a dialogue and a monologue?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>{aside to John S. That was a response, not an attack, understand, now?} </p></blockquote>
<p>It was a comment, not a response.</p>
<p>A response implies that you actually respond to comments made by someone else. Getting up on your soapbox to rail about something that is irrelevant to the comments made by someone that you think you are addressing is not a response.</p>
<p>Do you understand the difference between a dialogue and a monologue?</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/15/the-iraqi-election/#comment-16038</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;It&#039;s a long, long way to Tipperary&#039;

The plausible denialists are counting their shekels as though &#039;in hand&#039;

&quot;now that success is at hand.&quot;

Watch me take a rabbit out of my hat!

Nothin&#039; up my sleeve!

Presto! 4000 years of Arab tribalism gone in a &#039;poof&#039; of Bush smoke!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;It&#8217;s a long, long way to Tipperary&#8217;</p>
<p>The plausible denialists are counting their shekels as though &#8216;in hand&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8220;now that success is at hand.&#8221;</p>
<p>Watch me take a rabbit out of my hat!</p>
<p>Nothin&#8217; up my sleeve!</p>
<p>Presto! 4000 years of Arab tribalism gone in a &#8216;poof&#8217; of Bush smoke!</p>
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		<title>By: factcheck</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/15/the-iraqi-election/#comment-16037</link>
		<dc:creator>factcheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that you served doesn&#039;t change the fact that most that beat the war drums, including Bush and Cheney actively worked to stay away from danger, while sending others.

But then again, you&#039;ve lied in every other post, so I wonder if you&#039;re lying again.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that you served doesn&#8217;t change the fact that most that beat the war drums, including Bush and Cheney actively worked to stay away from danger, while sending others.</p>
<p>But then again, you&#8217;ve lied in every other post, so I wonder if you&#8217;re lying again.</p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/15/the-iraqi-election/#comment-16036</link>
		<dc:creator>drpedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zorro, I would have agreed with you a few months ago, but I think given the &quot;strategery&quot; of our democratic opponents, it might just keep going on forever!

And yes, I was referring to the US elections in the future.

Oh, and factcheck, before you start chicken hawking me....I am a US Navy veteran who spent 9-11 and the following two years forward deployed in support of our work in both Afghanistan and Iraq...I HAVE served...and you sir, what branch of our armed services were doing your civic duty with?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zorro, I would have agreed with you a few months ago, but I think given the &#8220;strategery&#8221; of our democratic opponents, it might just keep going on forever!</p>
<p>And yes, I was referring to the US elections in the future.</p>
<p>Oh, and factcheck, before you start chicken hawking me&#8230;.I am a US Navy veteran who spent 9-11 and the following two years forward deployed in support of our work in both Afghanistan and Iraq&#8230;I HAVE served&#8230;and you sir, what branch of our armed services were doing your civic duty with?</p>
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		<title>By: factcheck</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/15/the-iraqi-election/#comment-16035</link>
		<dc:creator>factcheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is rich, drpedro says we have to &quot;pay the piper&quot;.  That coming from a side that refuses to pay higher taxes to support our war effort and mostly refuses to serve.

What a quack.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is rich, drpedro says we have to &#8220;pay the piper&#8221;.  That coming from a side that refuses to pay higher taxes to support our war effort and mostly refuses to serve.</p>
<p>What a quack.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t say anything about the &quot;importance&quot; or &quot;priority&quot; of reasons, nor do I plan to.  The &quot;Bush lied! Men died!&quot; mantra means nothing to me. I&#039;m aware of a statement made by the Secretary of State only a few days ago that we intend to make of Iraq an ally. Period
The left, clinging desperately to the idea that Bush would somehow be ruined by this war, realizes now that success is at hand. This being the case, there are only two options: 1)Minimize the success. Once &quot;Johnny comes marching home,&quot; and Irag is free, that won&#039;t work; or 2) Keep banging the &quot;Bush lied&quot; drum. The problem with that is, we all know how short the American attention span is.
So, tough luck.
p.s. There are no WMD&#039;s in Iraq, right? So, like the magic rock that keeps elephants away, we&#039;ve accomplished that, too.

{aside to John S. &lt;i&gt;That&lt;/i&gt; was a response, not an attack, understand, now?}
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t say anything about the &#8220;importance&#8221; or &#8220;priority&#8221; of reasons, nor do I plan to.  The &#8220;Bush lied! Men died!&#8221; mantra means nothing to me. I&#8217;m aware of a statement made by the Secretary of State only a few days ago that we intend to make of Iraq an ally. Period<br />
The left, clinging desperately to the idea that Bush would somehow be ruined by this war, realizes now that success is at hand. This being the case, there are only two options: 1)Minimize the success. Once &#8220;Johnny comes marching home,&#8221; and Irag is free, that won&#8217;t work; or 2) Keep banging the &#8220;Bush lied&#8221; drum. The problem with that is, we all know how short the American attention span is.<br />
So, tough luck.<br />
p.s. There are no WMD&#8217;s in Iraq, right? So, like the magic rock that keeps elephants away, we&#8217;ve accomplished that, too.</p>
<p>{aside to John S. <i>That</i> was a response, not an attack, understand, now?}</p>
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