Comments on: Dorgan Steps Away From The Republican Culture Of Corruption http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/13/dorgan-steps-away-from-the-republican-culture-of-corruption/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:29:00 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: dugger1 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/13/dorgan-steps-away-from-the-republican-culture-of-corruption/#comment-15818 dugger1 Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:12:33 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1091#comment-15818 What did Dorgan know and when did he know it?! Summon Mdse. Guillotine!!! Dugger, Off with his Head! What did Dorgan know and when did he know it?! Summon Mdse. Guillotine!!!

Dugger, Off with his Head!

]]> By: The Concordian http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/13/dorgan-steps-away-from-the-republican-culture-of-corruption/#comment-15817 The Concordian Wed, 14 Dec 2005 04:12:19 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1091#comment-15817 That of anyone who subscribes to the Supreme Court's ridiculous doctrine that "money is speech," maybe? Other than that no one besides the recipients of said money, as far as I can see. That of anyone who subscribes to the Supreme Court’s ridiculous doctrine that “money is speech,” maybe? Other than that no one besides the recipients of said money, as far as I can see.

]]> By: Semanticleo http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/13/dorgan-steps-away-from-the-republican-culture-of-corruption/#comment-15816 Semanticleo Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:12:14 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1091#comment-15816 I want to know just exactly who's ox is gored by removing lobbyist money from the Beltway altogether? I want to know just exactly who’s ox is gored by removing lobbyist money from the Beltway altogether?

]]> By: beerwulf http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/13/dorgan-steps-away-from-the-republican-culture-of-corruption/#comment-15815 beerwulf Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:12:35 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1091#comment-15815 The thing that Jadegold is missing is that Jack Abramoff is radioactive, and he is going to poison the GOP for a good long while.. especially when his aides and friends cut deals for testimony. And you can bet that the Rove wannabes are going to be spinning the "Democrats took money from him *too*" line for all their sorry hides are worth, so Dorgan is doing the smart thing and saying (in effect) "I did get money from him; I also gave all of it back when I learned that it had come from Abramoff. The last thing I want fueling my campaign is dirty money." The thing that Jadegold is missing is that Jack Abramoff is radioactive, and he is going to poison the GOP for a good long while.. especially when his aides and friends cut deals for testimony. And you can bet that the Rove wannabes are going to be spinning the “Democrats took money from him *too*” line for all their sorry hides are worth, so Dorgan is doing the smart thing and saying (in effect) “I did get money from him; I also gave all of it back when I learned that it had come from Abramoff. The last thing I want fueling my campaign is dirty money.”

]]> By: Jadegold http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/13/dorgan-steps-away-from-the-republican-culture-of-corruption/#comment-15814 Jadegold Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:12:30 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1091#comment-15814 No, beerwulf, you miss the point as well. By returning a completely legal contribution, Dorgan is presenting the perception there was something wrong about the contribution. <i>That</i> permits Repugs to say 'hey, the Dems took money too!' The Repugs would be happy to pretend the Abramoff issue is all about campaign donations. It isn't. <a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/007232.php" rel="nofollow">Josh Marshall explains</a> No, beerwulf, you miss the point as well.

By returning a completely legal contribution, Dorgan is presenting the perception there was something wrong about the contribution. That permits Repugs to say ‘hey, the Dems took money too!’

The Repugs would be happy to pretend the Abramoff issue is all about campaign donations. It isn’t.

Josh Marshall explains

]]> By: Jadegold http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/12/13/dorgan-steps-away-from-the-republican-culture-of-corruption/#comment-15813 Jadegold Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:12:11 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1091#comment-15813 No, no, no. The thing OW is missing is that a lobbyist is permittted to give money within FEC regulations. Abramoff isn't in hot water because he gave money to politicians. See Josh Marshall if you need further clarification. No, no, no.

The thing OW is missing is that a lobbyist is permittted to give money within FEC regulations.

Abramoff isn’t in hot water because he gave money to politicians.

See Josh Marshall if you need further clarification.

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