“There was then, there is now, and there would have been regardless of what Bush did, a threat of terrorism that we would have to deal with. But instead of making it better, he has made it infinitely worse. We are less safe because of his policies. He has created more anger and righteous indignation against us as Americans than any leader of our country in the 228 years of our existence as a nation — because of his attitude of contempt for any person, institution, or nation who disagrees with him.

He has exposed Americans abroad and Americans in every U.S. town and city to a greater danger of attack by terrorists because of his arrogance, willfulness, and bungling at stirring up hornet’s nests that pose no threat whatsoever to us. And by then insulting the religion and culture and tradition of people in other countries. And by pursuing policies that have resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocent men, women and children, all of it done in our name.”

Joe Lieberman has been with the esteemed one, the Imperial Dunce, every step of the way. This war is a lie, a sham, a farce, and a damn travesty. We have debased our constitutional form of government and subverted the principles that underlie our freedom. We have never done a thing like this to rescue colored people anywhere or anytime from the clutches of evil and oppression. We do this for one reason only, and that is to secure our continued economic, political and military hegemony over the world by securing dominion over the second largest oil reserves on the planet.

“The Washington Post reported today: “Pelosi spokesman Brendan Daly said that while Pelosi estimates more than half of House Democrats favor a speedy withdrawal, she will lobby members in today’s meeting against adopting this as a caucus position.”

Pelosi is a trader to the party!

Alex – care to explain what is so laughable about that?

More targets for OW -

“Dean’s take on Iraq makes even less sense than the scream in Iowa: Both are uninformed and unhelpful,” said Rep. Jim Marshall (D-Ga.)

Damn Repug lapdog…

Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chairman Rahm Emanuel (Ill.) and Rep. Steny H. Hoyer (Md.), the second-ranking House Democratic leader, have told colleagues that Pelosi’s recent endorsement of a speedy withdrawal, combined with her claim that more than half of House Democrats support her position, could backfire on the party, congressional sources said.

C’mon OW better get busy impugning the character of these fellows too. Party line…zeig heil!

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More basically, though, Lieberman’s logic is full of shit. The “president’s credibility” is not the responsibility of the Congress, the Judiciary, or even Michael Moore. The president is responsible for upholding his own credibility through his own actions, and it is up to the other branches of the Fed, and up to the voters, to decide what to do in response to those actions (voting his congressional allies out in 2006, impeachment, Lieberman-style sycophancy, etc.).

As far as Lieberman’s ‘loyalty’ to his party is concerned, well, that all depends on what (if anything) you think the Democratic Party stands for. Furthermore, Lieberman is a U.S. citizen and can say whatever the hell he wants; it’s up to Connecticut’s Democratic voters to decide if they want to keep a right-wing ass-kisser in office, or if they’re going to pick a more progressive senator at the next opportunity.

I found this to be laughable:
Somebody once said that when choosing sides in a fight, history has shown that the good actors have always been on the side of Israel.

Who said that? Ariel Sharon, or Jackie Mason?
I’ll bet it wasn’t the crew of the U.S.S. Liberty.

Got it.

NRA gives him an F

NARAL gives him an A

National Taxpayers’ Union (Norquist’s right-wing outfit) gives him a 15 out of 100

Small Business/Entrepreneur Association gives him a 20 – which is a little high for a Dem, but nothing like, say Alabama’s Democratic Congressman Bud Cramer who gets an 87.

National Association of Manufacturers gives him a 28, about the same as Michigan Senator Debbie Stabenow.

The ACLU gives him an 83 for the 2003-2004 session, which is much higher than the ACLU’s 40 rating for him in 2001-02, and 57 in 2000. Lieberman actually got a higher ACLU grade in 03-04 than Chris Dodd.

Human Rights Campaign (gay rights) gives Lieberman an 88, also higher than Dodd.

For 2004: Family Research Council gives Lieberman a 0.
Christian Coalition gives Lieberman a 0.
American Conservative Union gives Lieberman a 0.

League of Conservation Voters only gives him a 56, much less than Dodd. Other environmental organizations also rate him in the middle of the pack.

Peace Action gives Lieberman a 38, much less than Dodd. Lower than Ben Nelson, in fact. Jack Murtha gets a 20, by the way.

AFL-CIO gives Lieberman an 83, and UAW gives him a 92.

Center for Security Policy (“strong defense”) gives him an 80 – very high for a Democrat. And right in the mid-range of most Republicans.

So what’s the verdict on Lieberman? A liberal hawk. On every social issue Lieberman votes reliably liberal. On economic matters he is also reliably liberal (with the exception of the environment, where he is in the middle). Only on defense/national security matters does Lieberman come out as conservative. Take away defense issues, Joe Lieberman is a solidly liberal Democrat.

Dissent is patriotic to Oliver provided that it is dissent that he agrees with.

In this case, Sen. Lieberman is dissenting from his party’s virtual lock step party line, and it is no longer patriotic.

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