Comments on: Con Attack?

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Thu, 08 Dec 2005 06:12:57 +0000

I’m trying to imagine two guys in suits and ties — you know, “Republican types” — beating up on a college professor:

“Trying to say Genesis is a myth, eh?” ::Pow!::

“You say you don’t believe in Intelligent design? Take that! ::Bif::!

“What’s wrong with creationism, professor?” ::Ker – Blam!::

Nah, I don’t think so…

By: Dugger

Dugger — Wed, 07 Dec 2005 22:12:41 +0000

Well, count me as one who doubts it ever happened. This guy is something of a hot head loose cannon and the details of the attack just fit to well. thre have been plenty of faked hate crimes. This has that same smell. I refuse to believe until I see more, much more.

Dugger, A Skeptic

By: johnnyprogressive

johnnyprogressive — Wed, 07 Dec 2005 20:12:05 +0000

Just becasue they re creationist thugs doesn t mean they re republican. Do we have any evidence of their political ideology?

They also do reside in one of the most notoriously red states in the union. And the professor sent out emails deriding “Christian conservatives” as noted above. While there may not be concrete evidence (not sure if they were wearing Bush/Cheney 2004 shirts at the time of the beating), I think we can make a pretty safe assumption.

A Republican State senator condemned the attack but I ll bet she s just in the violent mainstream too&

Wowee! One state senator huh? Come to think of it, i believe my county freeholders condemned the attack as well.

By: PrivatePyle

PrivatePyle — Wed, 07 Dec 2005 18:12:49 +0000

“Do we have any evidence of their political ideology?”

Since when does Oliver need any evidence to make sweeping accusations and blanket generalizations?

A Republican State senator condemned the attack but I’ll bet she’s just in the “violent mainstream” too…

By: Quaker in a Basement

Quaker in a Basement — Wed, 07 Dec 2005 16:12:54 +0000

Smith,

OK. Thank you. Stay safe.

Check in with us once in a while so we know you’re allright.

By: Zappa

Zappa — Wed, 07 Dec 2005 06:12:08 +0000

I really don’t care how OW spins it etc…at the end of the day it was a stupid and horrible act and I hope they find the cowards and toss them in a hole for 5-10.

By: JD

JD — Wed, 07 Dec 2005 04:12:36 +0000

Dkelsmith : Glad you are CONUS, and more importantly, that you are well. You honor everybody with your service. I am proud of you and everybody else that gives such a service to our country. When I left for the first Gulf War, my father told me to keep my head down, and my chin held high.

By: JWG

JWG — Wed, 07 Dec 2005 03:12:14 +0000

Unfortunately for everyone, a large portion of democrats hold a creationist view as well. Just becasue they’re creationist thugs doesn’t mean they’re republican. Do we have any evidence of their political ideology?

By: JD

JD — Wed, 07 Dec 2005 02:12:40 +0000

So, Oliver, is this “one beat removed” from the Republican mainstream, or “this is the republican mainstream” ? Either way, you are full of it, but I suppose spewing this garbage enables you to somehow feel better about yourself.

By: Dkelsmith

Dkelsmith — Wed, 07 Dec 2005 02:12:38 +0000

@ Quaker in a basement.

Currently at home…sort of….I’m TDY right now, but CONUS happily enough, I will be back on the clock around February time frame.

By: goatchowder

goatchowder — Wed, 07 Dec 2005 02:12:09 +0000

Thugs. They are thugs.

In the 60’s and early 70’s, it was the lefties who were throwing rocks, blowing shit up, beating people up, and generally wreaking this kind of violent mayhem. In the late 70’s we all mellowed out and got into meditation and shit, I don’t know what. I’ve only seen a few blac block anarchists at protests, and they seem to limit themselves to smashing Starbucks windows. They do tend to be on the receiving end of a lot of brutal beatings though– from police.

Since the 70’s, it’s been the wingnuts who’ve been leading the violent charge– actually beating up and/or killing people. McVeigh was no liberal. Neither are the abortion clinic bombers, the guy who sent Anthrax to Daschle’s office, and these creationist clowns.

“Ever notice that people who believe in Creationism look really un-evolved? Eyes close together, big eyebrow across the top? ‘I believe god created me in one day!’. Yeah, looks like he rushed it.” — Bill Hicks, RIP

By: Oliver Willis

Oliver Willis — Wed, 07 Dec 2005 00:12:50 +0000

JWG: this is the republican mainstream, it isn’t the fringe.

By: Quaker in a Basement

Quaker in a Basement — Tue, 06 Dec 2005 23:12:32 +0000

Hey, Smith.

You at home or in the field? If the latter, anything you need from home?

By: JWG

JWG — Tue, 06 Dec 2005 23:12:05 +0000

The modern conservative movement is just one beat removed from the right-wing militias, here s more evidence.

So you admit that violence done in the name of a political ideology represents evidence that those in the mainstream of that particular ideology are “one beat removed” from the violent fringe?

By: elrod

elrod — Tue, 06 Dec 2005 22:12:53 +0000

Don’t these guys qualify as domestic terrorists under the Patriot Act? They used physical violence against somebody for political purposes.

By: Oliver Willis

Oliver Willis — Tue, 06 Dec 2005 22:12:34 +0000

I don't agree. [Background] You may also remember G. Gordon Liddy advocating the murder of federal agents.

By: Dkelsmith

Dkelsmith — Tue, 06 Dec 2005 22:12:24 +0000

The modern conservative movement is just one beat removed from the right-wing militias, here s more evidence.

I would say that is a huge stretch Oliver. I am a liberal, but I would have to say that people in the modern conservative movement would not generally resort to violence. Nor would any “sane” person regardless of their political ideology.