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Hey, Tom Tancredo…

Just say “white power” and get it off your chest.

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5 Responses to “Hey, Tom Tancredo…”

  1. TD says:

    Made a couple of assumptions about Trancredo, did you?

    That’s a pretty racist thing to say about someone you’re insinuating is a racist. It shows that you have an ignorance of the history of this country, an unfamiliarity with immigration politics, and that with you it’s “Fire, Ready, Aim!”

    The change in America s makeup started with the Immigration Reform Act of 1965. With that piece of legislation, Congress eliminated the  national origins quota system then in place. Chief Senate sponsor Ted  I didn t know there was a bridge there Kennedy (D-MA) stated,  Our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same. Should “Mur. Liberal” just say “white power”?

    Senator Hyram Fong (R-HI) told Congress,  the argument that the cultural pattern of the U.S. will be changed needs to be answered. Our cultural pattern will never be changed as far as America is concerned. Senator Fong was the first Asian-American to serve in the Senate, with Hawaii’s admission into the Union. Should he just say “white power”?

    Both of these were talking about the same thing Tancredo was talking about — cultural change.

    These statements have been proven patently false, because our culture has changed. Hispanics have now displaced blacks as the largest minority in America, and 90% of new immigrants are unskilled and uneducated. Don’t you think that it’s unwise that even if we wanted to upset the cultural balance in America, we should go about it in a more systematic, organized manner? Or do you think chaos works well?

    People are flooding our country who do not share our values. Furthermore, they’re doing so illegally.

  2. Mouse says:

    People are flooding our country who do not share our values.

    Who does “our” refer to, and which values do you mean?

  3. frameone says:

    Cultural change and national identity are not synonymous the way make them out to be. American culture has changed radically since the 1950s but you can’t put those changes down to demographic shifts. Unless, of course, you conflate race with values: American culture has changed because there are more Hispainics here. Mouse’s question is the right one. Who says these new immigrants don’t share “our values”? You? The phrase “preserve our national identity” is frighteningly similar to the language of the white power movement and that, apparently, is exactly what Trancredo was aiming at:

    “But in the immigration debate, many GOP pollsters and strategists and big thinkers believe that independent voters, especially women, and nearly all Latino voters, interpret “preserving national identity” as a code word for “keeping America white and Christian.”

  4. BD says:

    Furthermore, I thought that the Latino population was predominantly and devoutly Catholic, and as such tends to oppose things like freedom of choice and homosexuals. Wouldn’t the Republicans want more of these people in the population?

  5. TD says:

    “Our” refers to people who hold citizenship in our country, or who claim America as home and are here legally. Democrats and Republicans, Liberals and Conservatives, Atheists, Agnostics, and the devoutly religious.

    The specific values I mean are those associated with becoming “united” with the existing culture in America. It seems to me as if the multicultural crowd wants to recognize any culture except what I would call the American culture — that developed by the founders of this country. America is the great melting pot — that is, people of all cultures come here and are assimilated into our society. Those already here learn from the newcomers, and the newcomers learn from us. We become adjusted to each other.

    With this Hispanic population illegally flooding our country, for the most part they do not assimilate. They maintain their own tight cultural groups, thus exacerbating the “us-them” antipathy found when one group decides to be separate in what is supposed to be a united society.

    Au, contraire, but cultural change is reflected in national identity, if by national identity you’re referring to the way western Europeans are now restricted on how many people they can send our way, and allowing for the vastly Hispanic illegal immigration — and even including legal Hispanic immigration.

    What would you attribute our cultural changes to except for demographic shifts? Fewer Europeans, more Hispanics, sounds pretty demographically oriented to me.

    Race???!? It has nothing to do with race! For your information, Hispanics are not a race, they’re a culture or society. There are black Hispanics and non-black Hispanics. By looking, I couldn’t tell a black Hispanic from a black Haitian, a black from Africa, or a black from anywhere else. And the non-black Hispanics I couldn’t tell from some middle-eastern countries, or perhaps from citizens of Italy or Greece. It’s a culture war, not a race war!

    It’s not just about values, it’s about becoming united with the existing culture instead of trying to maintain your existing culture, which, incidentally, is being brought here illegally for the most part. Culture’s part of it, sure, but it’s not all of it.

    BD, therein lies the enigma of the whole thing, doesn’t it? If they’re predominantly and devoutly Catholic and tend to oppose things like killing babies (you politicized your argument, I’ll politicize mine) and homosexuality, then why do they by-and-large vote Democrat? Whatever our differences, can we agree that that fact is kind of odd?