Standing together, Democrats can stand for up for America. It’s painful they’ve taken too long to get here, but at least it seems like they’re there.
Legislation to fund many of the nation’s health, education and social programs went down to a startling defeat in the House Thursday, led by Democrats who said cuts in the bill hurt some of America’s neediest people.
The 224-209 vote against the $142.5 billion spending bill disrupted plans by Republican leaders to finish up work on this year’s spending bills and cast doubt on whether they would have the votes to pass a major budget-cutting bill also on the day’s agenda.
Democrats, unanimous in opposing the legislation, said it included the first cut in education funding in a decade and slashed spending for several health care programs. “It betrays our nation’s values and its future,” said House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer of Maryland. “It is neither compassionate, conservative nor wise.”
3rd world?
“the bill represented more spending than the entire budgets of Russia or China.”
Standing together to fight a 1% decrease in spending. Pat yourself on the back.
The real reason the bill didn’t pass was there was not enough pork attached for Republican swine to belly up to the trough.
“Republicans said they may have lost votes because this year’s bill, down $1.5 billion from last year, included no special projects or earmarks for lawmakers. “You take those out and you lose the incentive,” said Rep. Tom Davis, R-Va., who voted for the bill.”
Filthy swine on both sides of the aisle.
Count me happy becasue the bill failed. Would love to see spending seriously cut. the Democrats are playing chicken and hte outcome may not be to their liking. Fiscal conservative have been more active lately. And it will be interesting to hear the nay voters expalin that next election.
Dugger
Standing to cut Republican cuts in important programs. I mean, cutting education when we’re currently almost at a third world level? Madness.
So this means that any previous claims about how Bush cut education spending were lies, right?
Lies? You know that only those nasty Republicans lie…
It wasn’t a cut. Just more lies -
“If I give you a gift $100 this year, and a gift of $107 the next year, I have not “cut” your gift. ”
“Now let’s say the whiny gift recipient said “But, you promised to give me $107.30, but you only gave me $107, so you cut my gift”. Nonsense. The recipient never had the .30 to begin with, and you can’t “cut” something you never had. (I use the specific numbers I did because in the actual spending bill being debated, the goal is to reduce the rate of growth in some programs from 7.3%, to 7.0% - the equivalent of .30 per $100)”
Oddly, randy’s logic doesn’t seem to work on the tax side of the ledger.
If your taxes were scheduled to be reduced from $107 to $100 next year, but part of that reduction is postponed or rolled back, that seems to be a “tax increase.”
Now let’s say Paris Hilton said “But you promised to cut my taxes by $7, but you really only cut it by $5, so you raised my taxes. Nonsense. Ms. Hilton never received the $7 cut to begin with, and you can’t “raise” a tax rate that was never in effect.
Stand by for an entertaining rationalization.
I’ll tell you then.
Whenever the notion of rolling back future tax cuts that have already been approved by Congress is mentioned in these comment threads, someone will apply exactly the logic you have used above.
However, that logic somehow becomes transformed. A tax cut that has not yet been realized becomes as real as rocks and any suggestion to delay or repeal these future cuts somehow becomes a tax increase.
Nothing to do with you personally, randy. You may or may not have ever made such an argument. I have used your comment as an exemplar of one half of the familiar presentation.
In short, if you want to stipulate that unrealized increases in spending and unrealized decreases in taxes are both exactly that–unrealized–then my comments have nothing to do with you, and only pertain to anyone who argues that they are different.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to get at QiaB.
An increase in spending is just that, an increase. Not a cut. That’s the only point. When the dems claim the evil Republicans are cutting programs it’s a lie.
BTW, I think its foolish for the GOP to be asking for more tax cuts in a time of war.