“The saddest part is that our people in uniform have been subjected to these cynical and pernicious falsehoods day in and day out.”
Who said it? The most vile man in America, the manipulator of intelligence who sold the Iraq war as a cakewalk and spews obscene language on the floor of our senate. Dick Cheney.
UPDATE: The gentleman from Nevada, Harry Reid, responds:
Tonight the Vice President has come out of his bunker and is speaking at a gathering of Washington DC insiders, which is closed to the press.
Unfortunately, he brought his bunker mentality with him. He is repeating the same tired attacks we ve heard from administration officials over the last two weeks.
In the last 24 hours, 10 of our brave soldiers have been killed in far off Iraq. On such a night, you would think Cheney would give a speech that honors the fallen and those still fighting by laying out a strategy for success.
Instead we have the Vice President of the United States playing politics like he s in the middle of a presidential campaign.
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God, Reid is refreshing…I never would have imagined someone’d be able to bite the head of Cheney so cleanly.
Good on ya’ Stormin’ Mormon!
Granted, the Cheney Administration’s blundering has virtually sharpened the Dems’ teeth and stuck its collective head inside the Dems’ mouth, but you’re correct all the same. Let’s see if this translates into a Dem recovery in 2006 that not even Merrkin apathetic ignorance and Diebold chicanery can overcome.
That’s supposed to be:
Wow, Reid sounds like a proper leader of the Opposition.
(I’m with you Curmudgeon)
Wow, Reid is sounds like a proper leader of the Opposition.
you would think Cheney would give a speech that honors the fallen and those still fighting by laying out a strategy for success.
Sounds like that’s what he did:
From the Vice – President’s speech
The sentence before the one you quoted:
What we re hearing now is some politicians contradicting their own statements and making a play for political advantage in the middle of a war.
A few sentences later he said: The President and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing their memory, or their backbone but we re not going to sit by and let them rewrite history.
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We can never say enough how much we appreciate them, and how proud they make us. They and their families can be certain: That this cause is right & and the performance of our military has been brave and honorable & and this nation will stand behind our fighting forces with pride and without wavering until the day of victory.
Reid sounds just like a Democrat, OK. I hope you’re not thinking about another Viet Nam encore
Frank just illustrates the Bush and Republican “strategy” in a nutshell: No plan at all, just empty plattitudes. Just saying the word victory is plan enough, like others have said, it’s the underpants gnome strategy:
Step 1: Invade Iraq
Step 3: We Win!
That’s all the Bush administration has got. Which is why the Republicans had to remove any language from the recent Dem plan that even hinted of a timetable or a goal. We can’t even tell the Iraqi people that there will come a day when we won’t have troops in their country? We can’t ballpark a time when we want that to happen?
Bush keeps saying that if we set a timetable the terrorists will just wait us out. But look who’s missing in that equation: the Iraqis we’re supposedly standing up to take over. If the day we leave is timed to the day the Iraqis are ready to defend themselves, why should it matter if the terrorists have waited us out? And what does “wait us out” mean? Not attack? Wouldn’t it be a good thing if we could get the terrorists to take a few months off? It isn’t like the Iraqis and us have to stop looking for and killing them too, right?
If Cheney’s case was strong, he would be able to take questions from the press. Since it isn’t, he won’t. And naturally, the Republicans won’t ask any hard questions of him, either, so he’s basically free to make whatever assertions he wants from his crumbling bully pulpit. But it’s clear he’s not winning anyone over, either.
“As Iraqi forces stand up, we will stand down.”
I’m waiting, but not holding my breath, for the day a Democrat says, “I say we do ______, and then get the hell out.”
It’s always about Bush providing a timetable for some unnamed reason.
Why do we need a timetable, from a strategic or tactical standpoint?
We only need a timetable so the Democrats can go back to their tie – dyed baby boomer base, and hold up a calendar like a bloody scalp, signifying victory over the Great satan, George Bush.
You really oughta get out more, Frank. That day was today. See the thread above, re: Rep. Murtha. And I invite you to explain how Mr. Murtha, a 37-year U.S. Marine veteran, is part of the “tie-dyed baby boomer base.”
I already heard about Murtha’s 11 second “speech”. Too bad no one cares to report the rest.
My point was that it is simplistic and simple minded to say “Get out in 6 months”, I don’t care how many years he spent in the Reserves.
He has spent thiry years in the House on the Democratic side of the aisle, and he wasn’t the only Democrat who did support the war, and doesn’t now. That doesn’t make him a hawkish Dem, in my book.
I’m sure if he were really conservative, Oliver would have written him out of the party as quickly as Joe Lieberman.
What I was asking for (since you didn’t notice, I’ll repeat it) was for a Democrat to recommend some kind of action to be followed by withdrawal — not just withdrawal.
Please stop with the “37 – year U.S. Marine veteran” nonsense, as if he’s some gnarled cigar chewing macho character with a two day growth of beard. Give it a rest.
He’s been in Congress for thirty years: You remember Congress; 100% retirement, 100% free health care for life, over a hundred grand a year in salary, way more than that in perks and junkets. That’s what “Sgt. Fury” has been doing for the last three decades
Privates don’t surrender — officers do.
Don’t forget: George McGovern was a fighter pilot.
Cheney to american public;
“Go F— yourselves!”
Liberals to Iraqis: “Go F___ yourselves!
Why? Does recognition of Mr. Murtha’s service trouble you for some reason?
And his speech ran just over 30-minutes, not 11 seconds, and he laid out exactly the plan of action you seem to think was missing.
As I said, Frank, you should get out more. Getting all your information from right-wing blogs leaves you uninformed.