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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/15/they-deride-you-then-they-follow-you/#comment-13096</link>
		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 05:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No.
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		<title>By: JWG</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 03:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;With my last breath, I spit at thee; For hate&#039;s sake, I stab at thee!&lt;/em&gt;

Do I win?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>With my last breath, I spit at thee; For hate&#8217;s sake, I stab at thee!</em></p>
<p>Do I win?</p>
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		<title>By: Dugger</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/15/they-deride-you-then-they-follow-you/#comment-13094</link>
		<dc:creator>Dugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, frame, congratualtions. You get last post here. Could mena you won the debate.


Dugger
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, frame, congratualtions. You get last post here. Could mena you won the debate.</p>
<p>Dugger</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/15/they-deride-you-then-they-follow-you/#comment-13093</link>
		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL. Now we&#039;re going to post repeatedly until one of us gives up and gives the other the last word! I love it. I will fight you into the depths of hell like the Balrog you are, Nappy-Dugger.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. Now we&#8217;re going to post repeatedly until one of us gives up and gives the other the last word! I love it. I will fight you into the depths of hell like the Balrog you are, Nappy-Dugger.</p>
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		<title>By: Dugger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back pedal away, frame. And good luck with your new found emphasis on lying and obstruction.  BTW, who&#039;s telling the truth: Woodward or Fitz re the first offical to go to reporters.  The paranoid left is trying to destroy Woodward.  Will htat be your tactic also?

Dugger
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back pedal away, frame. And good luck with your new found emphasis on lying and obstruction.  BTW, who&#8217;s telling the truth: Woodward or Fitz re the first offical to go to reporters.  The paranoid left is trying to destroy Woodward.  Will htat be your tactic also?</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/15/they-deride-you-then-they-follow-you/#comment-13091</link>
		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please tell me what I&#039;m backpeddling away from. I stand by everything I&#039;ve said because Woodward&#039;s revelation changes nothing in terms of Libby&#039;s indictments or what Fitzgerald said about Valerie Wilson&#039;s classified status. Nothing whatsoever. You&#039;ve changed the rationale for your argument so many times now I wonder if you even know what you&#039;re arguing for at the moment.

And indeed, there are a lot of people questioning Woodward&#039;s credibility including his own colleagues at the WaPo:

&quot;Woodward&#039;s statement said he testified: &quot;I told Walter Pincus, a reporter at The Post, without naming my source, that I understood Wilson&#039;s wife worked at the CIA as a WMD analyst.&quot;

Pincus said he does not recall Woodward telling him that. In an interview, Pincus said he cannot imagine he would have forgotten such a conversation around the same time he was writing about Wilson.

&quot;Are you kidding?&quot; Pincus said. &quot;I certainly would have remembered that.&quot;&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please tell me what I&#8217;m backpeddling away from. I stand by everything I&#8217;ve said because Woodward&#8217;s revelation changes nothing in terms of Libby&#8217;s indictments or what Fitzgerald said about Valerie Wilson&#8217;s classified status. Nothing whatsoever. You&#8217;ve changed the rationale for your argument so many times now I wonder if you even know what you&#8217;re arguing for at the moment.</p>
<p>And indeed, there are a lot of people questioning Woodward&#8217;s credibility including his own colleagues at the WaPo:</p>
<p>&#8220;Woodward&#8217;s statement said he testified: &#8220;I told Walter Pincus, a reporter at The Post, without naming my source, that I understood Wilson&#8217;s wife worked at the CIA as a WMD analyst.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pincus said he does not recall Woodward telling him that. In an interview, Pincus said he cannot imagine he would have forgotten such a conversation around the same time he was writing about Wilson.</p>
<p>&#8220;Are you kidding?&#8221; Pincus said. &#8220;I certainly would have remembered that.&#8221;"</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/15/they-deride-you-then-they-follow-you/#comment-13090</link>
		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, I can&#039;t figure out why you&#039;re so excited by Woodward&#039;s revelations anyway. Aren&#039;t you the guy arguing that Wilson&#039;s cover was no longer classified because her cover was blown by Aldrich Ames? I don&#039;t know, man. Sounds like the all-mighty Nappy-Dugger is floundering around for any port in a storm, no matter how off course and ultimately unhelpful.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, I can&#8217;t figure out why you&#8217;re so excited by Woodward&#8217;s revelations anyway. Aren&#8217;t you the guy arguing that Wilson&#8217;s cover was no longer classified because her cover was blown by Aldrich Ames? I don&#8217;t know, man. Sounds like the all-mighty Nappy-Dugger is floundering around for any port in a storm, no matter how off course and ultimately unhelpful.</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
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		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dugger --

Huh? Whendid I de-emphasize leaking classifed information? Leaking classified information is a serious, serious breach of the public trust, not to mention against the law. Nothing Woodward said changes anything I&#039;ve said about Libby&#039;s indictments and what Fitzgerald believed about the information that Libby leaked, namely that it was classified. Indeed, Woodward&#039;s revelations only deepens the administrations involvement in the leaking of classified information to reporters. How Fitzgerald responds, well, we&#039;ll see. But this doesn&#039;t change anything I&#039;ve said about Libby.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dugger &#8211;</p>
<p>Huh? Whendid I de-emphasize leaking classifed information? Leaking classified information is a serious, serious breach of the public trust, not to mention against the law. Nothing Woodward said changes anything I&#8217;ve said about Libby&#8217;s indictments and what Fitzgerald believed about the information that Libby leaked, namely that it was classified. Indeed, Woodward&#8217;s revelations only deepens the administrations involvement in the leaking of classified information to reporters. How Fitzgerald responds, well, we&#8217;ll see. But this doesn&#8217;t change anything I&#8217;ve said about Libby.</p>
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		<title>By: Dugger</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/15/they-deride-you-then-they-follow-you/#comment-13088</link>
		<dc:creator>Dugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey frame,

WHO&#039;S YOUR DADDY!!!!!

Woodward&#039;s revelations re Plame seem to indicate other people, other reporters, other &#039;uncleared&#039; persons knew Plame was CIA earlier.  Looks like my anlysis, which suggested Plame was blown, well before Libby/Novak/WaPo was right.  And it looks like Fitz&#039;s statement that Plame was the first government official to go to reporters is being disputed - by Woodward.
Time for thirty paragraphs speculating about how Woodward is an agent of evil genius Rove.

Dugger, Look Upon Him Ye Mighty and Despair!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey frame,</p>
<p>WHO&#8217;S YOUR DADDY!!!!!</p>
<p>Woodward&#8217;s revelations re Plame seem to indicate other people, other reporters, other &#8216;uncleared&#8217; persons knew Plame was CIA earlier.  Looks like my anlysis, which suggested Plame was blown, well before Libby/Novak/WaPo was right.  And it looks like Fitz&#8217;s statement that Plame was the first government official to go to reporters is being disputed &#8211; by Woodward.<br />
Time for thirty paragraphs speculating about how Woodward is an agent of evil genius Rove.</p>
<p>Dugger, Look Upon Him Ye Mighty and Despair!!</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/15/they-deride-you-then-they-follow-you/#comment-13087</link>
		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a breath and try to stop distorting the facts for one second there big boy. First off, nice plural on reporter. Last time I checked Woodward was only one guy. Second, this doesn&#039;t change a damn thing regarding Libby&#039;s indictments for perjury and obstruction and neither does it have anything to do with why Fitzgerald didn&#039;t charge him with a crime for disclosing classified information. Why you ask? Because apparently, Fitzgerald was unware of any of this before he brought his indictments. Third, you say &quot;well before&quot; as if July doesn&#039;t follow June on the calendar. You&#039;ll note that whoever disclosed this information to Woodward did it in June 2003 and Fitzgerald specifically says in the indictment:

 At all relevant times from January 1, 2002 through July 2003, Valerie Wilson was employed by the CIA, and her employment status was classified.

Which means whoever disclosed this information did themselves leak classified information to someone who wasn&#039;t authorized to receive it. All this means is that yet another administration official beyond Libby and Rove was involved and that Woodward, is, much like yourself, a hack.

No speculation here at all. Just the facts.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a breath and try to stop distorting the facts for one second there big boy. First off, nice plural on reporter. Last time I checked Woodward was only one guy. Second, this doesn&#8217;t change a damn thing regarding Libby&#8217;s indictments for perjury and obstruction and neither does it have anything to do with why Fitzgerald didn&#8217;t charge him with a crime for disclosing classified information. Why you ask? Because apparently, Fitzgerald was unware of any of this before he brought his indictments. Third, you say &#8220;well before&#8221; as if July doesn&#8217;t follow June on the calendar. You&#8217;ll note that whoever disclosed this information to Woodward did it in June 2003 and Fitzgerald specifically says in the indictment:</p>
<p> At all relevant times from January 1, 2002 through July 2003, Valerie Wilson was employed by the CIA, and her employment status was classified.</p>
<p>Which means whoever disclosed this information did themselves leak classified information to someone who wasn&#8217;t authorized to receive it. All this means is that yet another administration official beyond Libby and Rove was involved and that Woodward, is, much like yourself, a hack.</p>
<p>No speculation here at all. Just the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Dugger</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/15/they-deride-you-then-they-follow-you/#comment-13086</link>
		<dc:creator>Dugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no framykins,

It means I&#039;M YOUR DADDY.  It proves there is no substitute for calm analysis and non-paranoid thought.  If you had listened to Dugger the Mighty&#039;s  thoughtful questions and speculations, you would not be in this humble pie position of having to shift to talking about how important lying and obstruction are instead of blowing cover and leaking.

And, actually, my radio waves are telling me Woodward is two guys.

Dugger, Have a Real Nice Day
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no framykins,</p>
<p>It means I&#8217;M YOUR DADDY.  It proves there is no substitute for calm analysis and non-paranoid thought.  If you had listened to Dugger the Mighty&#8217;s  thoughtful questions and speculations, you would not be in this humble pie position of having to shift to talking about how important lying and obstruction are instead of blowing cover and leaking.</p>
<p>And, actually, my radio waves are telling me Woodward is two guys.</p>
<p>Dugger, Have a Real Nice Day</p>
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		<title>By: dugger1</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/15/they-deride-you-then-they-follow-you/#comment-13085</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>frame,

Take a break frame, too much verbiage, too little thought lately. I would comment on the incoherence of that last post but I&#039;m such a crappy typist that I won&#039;t.

Dugger
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>frame,</p>
<p>Take a break frame, too much verbiage, too little thought lately. I would comment on the incoherence of that last post but I&#8217;m such a crappy typist that I won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Dugger</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
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		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, one typo and incoherence reigned. If I were you I&#039;d look into the radio signals coming from your night light.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, one typo and incoherence reigned. If I were you I&#8217;d look into the radio signals coming from your night light.</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/15/they-deride-you-then-they-follow-you/#comment-13083</link>
		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 01:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dugger also thinks communists are plotting against him from their secret based under his bed.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dugger also thinks communists are plotting against him from their secret based under his bed.</p>
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		<title>By: Dugger</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/15/they-deride-you-then-they-follow-you/#comment-13082</link>
		<dc:creator>Dugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 22:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BD,

No.  It makes absolutely no difference what the political affiliation of the military (person) is as regards Corrigan&#039;s remarks - thats the crap.  Otherwise the military as a whole, like labor as a whole the other way, supports Republicans.  Of course, individual union members and individual military may feel different than the majority.

Dugger
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BD,</p>
<p>No.  It makes absolutely no difference what the political affiliation of the military (person) is as regards Corrigan&#8217;s remarks &#8211; thats the crap.  Otherwise the military as a whole, like labor as a whole the other way, supports Republicans.  Of course, individual union members and individual military may feel different than the majority.</p>
<p>Dugger</p>
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		<title>By: BD</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/15/they-deride-you-then-they-follow-you/#comment-13081</link>
		<dc:creator>BD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 21:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the by, the military employing liberals is not &quot;crap.&quot; It&#039;s a direct response to your baseless comment that the military--as in, the whole military--hates the left.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the by, the military employing liberals is not &#8220;crap.&#8221; It&#8217;s a direct response to your baseless comment that the military&#8211;as in, the whole military&#8211;hates the left.</p>
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		<title>By: Dugger</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/15/they-deride-you-then-they-follow-you/#comment-13080</link>
		<dc:creator>Dugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 21:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BD,

C&#039;mon. &quot; Corrigan didn t explicitly say that the U.S. military were Nazis&#039;  You can do better than that.  And that crap about the military employing liberals is completely off the track  So what?  He used that analogy against all soldiers, left or right.  I could care less what party they belonged to.  None of them deserve cheap shot crap like that.  Those soldiers are out there dying right now for you and me while we have this nice debate.

Google &quot;I was only following orders&quot;.  Just about every reference indicates it was the common defense of Nazis at Nuremberg.  It is universally recognized that way, especially when used in reference to soldiers in the field and put in quotes as he did - to set it off.  Already, two defenses of Corrigan here and one 5th amendment.  My only point.  That quote sat there for a while.  All of the leftie &quot;friends of the military&quot; let it pass without comment.  Even when exposed not even a token negative to Corrigan.

&quot;US Marines, Nazi analogy?  Nothing to see here.   Nothing that interests me? BTW soldiers, we would like your vote next election (stupid Nazi b*stards that you are.)&quot;

Dugger
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BD,</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon. &#8221; Corrigan didn t explicitly say that the U.S. military were Nazis&#8217;  You can do better than that.  And that crap about the military employing liberals is completely off the track  So what?  He used that analogy against all soldiers, left or right.  I could care less what party they belonged to.  None of them deserve cheap shot crap like that.  Those soldiers are out there dying right now for you and me while we have this nice debate.</p>
<p>Google &#8220;I was only following orders&#8221;.  Just about every reference indicates it was the common defense of Nazis at Nuremberg.  It is universally recognized that way, especially when used in reference to soldiers in the field and put in quotes as he did &#8211; to set it off.  Already, two defenses of Corrigan here and one 5th amendment.  My only point.  That quote sat there for a while.  All of the leftie &#8220;friends of the military&#8221; let it pass without comment.  Even when exposed not even a token negative to Corrigan.</p>
<p>&#8220;US Marines, Nazi analogy?  Nothing to see here.   Nothing that interests me? BTW soldiers, we would like your vote next election (stupid Nazi b*stards that you are.)&#8221;</p>
<p>Dugger</p>
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		<title>By: BD</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/15/they-deride-you-then-they-follow-you/#comment-13079</link>
		<dc:creator>BD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 21:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, Dugger, that people often use vernacular without knowing where it comes from? &quot;Just following orders&quot; is one of those phrases that you and I and many people attribute to Nazis, but which others just attribute to hearing other people use it as a defense.

As far as I&#039;m concerned, I need to hear clarification from Corrigan. Either he meant it the way you think he did (and if so, he needs to own up to it, because it&#039;s a chickenshit thing to say), or he tossed it into the conversation without realizing the gravity of what he said (which is no less dumb, but far less provocative).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, Dugger, that people often use vernacular without knowing where it comes from? &#8220;Just following orders&#8221; is one of those phrases that you and I and many people attribute to Nazis, but which others just attribute to hearing other people use it as a defense.</p>
<p>As far as I&#8217;m concerned, I need to hear clarification from Corrigan. Either he meant it the way you think he did (and if so, he needs to own up to it, because it&#8217;s a chickenshit thing to say), or he tossed it into the conversation without realizing the gravity of what he said (which is no less dumb, but far less provocative).</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 20:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How&#039;s that narrative of grievance coming along, Dugger?
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		<title>By: BD</title>
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		<dc:creator>BD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 20:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dugger, there were soldiers besides Nazis who &quot;just followed orders.&quot; Before Nazis, even.

Corrigan didn&#039;t explicitly say that the U.S. military were Nazis. If he had, most if not all of us would have condemned him. You took his choice of phrasing and made a crapload of assumptions about what he meant. &lt;i&gt;ASSUMPTIONS&lt;/i&gt;.

And the military employs liberals. Someday, I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll get it through your skull that liberals have volunteered, fought, and died in American wars, and I doubt the military refuses to honor them because they were liberals. &quot;Sorry, ma&#039;am. Your son doesn&#039;t get a flag and a 21-gun salute. Y&#039;see, his bunkmates said he was for gay rights and that he voted for John Kerry. Who, by the way, is another stinkin&#039; military liberal.&quot;

If you want to support the troops, Dugger, you&#039;re going to have to support the ones who disagree with you, too.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dugger, there were soldiers besides Nazis who &#8220;just followed orders.&#8221; Before Nazis, even.</p>
<p>Corrigan didn&#8217;t explicitly say that the U.S. military were Nazis. If he had, most if not all of us would have condemned him. You took his choice of phrasing and made a crapload of assumptions about what he meant. <i>ASSUMPTIONS</i>.</p>
<p>And the military employs liberals. Someday, I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll get it through your skull that liberals have volunteered, fought, and died in American wars, and I doubt the military refuses to honor them because they were liberals. &#8220;Sorry, ma&#8217;am. Your son doesn&#8217;t get a flag and a 21-gun salute. Y&#8217;see, his bunkmates said he was for gay rights and that he voted for John Kerry. Who, by the way, is another stinkin&#8217; military liberal.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you want to support the troops, Dugger, you&#8217;re going to have to support the ones who disagree with you, too.</p>
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