Michael Steele’s story about being pelted with Oreos is a big phony lie peddled by Steele and the Maryland GOP
According to numerous reports in the Washington Times, Steele was “pelted” with Oreo cookies, which signifies a racial slur for being black on the outside and white on the inside.
Times reporter S.A. Miller is one of the writers who referenced the incident in news articles on more than one occasion. Miller told WTOP he attended the event in 2002 and saw Steele get hit with cookies.
When pressed, Miller said he couldn’t swear in court that Steele did get hit with cookies because he didn’t actually see it happen.
On Tuesday, Steele told WTOP that he was never hit with Oreos and said the incident has been exaggerated.
What else are Michael Steele and the Maryland GOP lying about? Michael Steele is a rubber stamp for the right-wing Bush agenda, simply out of touch with mainstream Maryland values.
Strictly speaking, yes, those are different things. However, they are very similar in that no one can reliably report seeing either one actually occur.
Well, that’s a very peculiar story.
According to the story, the Washington Times reporter, S. A. Miller, told WTOP he didn’t see anybody throw cookies.
But then, the Times’ managing editor says Miller denies he ever spoke to WTOP–and besides, he never actually attended the event in question.
Shouldn’t the Times be concerned about reporters who write about events they didn’t witness?
Correct me if I am wrong, and I am sure you will, but is there not a difference between Steele not being hit by oreos, and no oreos having been thrown ?
In particular, the managing editor of the Washington Times says the reporter who has referenced this event in several articles wasn’t even there! So how would we know whether there’s a difference?
I fail to see how whether or not some reporter was even there is relevant. Either there were oreos thrown, or there were not. Steele has not said that there were not, he has said that he was not struck by them.
It’s very relevant to anyone who uses the Washington Times as a source of news. Their reporter has retold the story on several occasions. Now his (her?) boss says the reporter wasn’t even there.
This story has gained currency among blog readers and writers and may actually have an impact on who gets elected to the United States Senate.
Other than that, it doesn’t matter.
I fail to see how whether or not the WMD intel was even there is relevant. Either there were WMD, or there were not. Bush has not said that there were not, he has said that we couldn’t find them.
(Are jokes allowed on this site? I hope so.)
Anyone notice JD’s subtle deflection away from the operative issue?
Let’s remember Ehrlich and his handlers are on record as saying Steele was “pelted” with oreos; that the air was “thick as locusts” with flying oreos.
Now, JD attempts to make a fine distinction: that Steele had oreos thrown at him but none struck him. This, despite the fact that no media organization reported on oreos being tossed and personnel at the auditorium claim to have not seen oreos thrown or present in the post-debate cleanup.
Yes, it was an oh so subtle deflection away from the real topic. You caught me. I am not at all concerned with what some aide says. Steele is the only person that matters in all of this. He says it happened.
Anyone notice how this type of racial ridicule is acceptable when the target does not have similar political philosophies of those on the tolerant left?
And, what is it with throwing food at people when you do not agree with them ? Some new leftist marching orders ?
I don’t understand why Steele would be “the only person that matters in all of this.” Shouldn’t the only people that matter be the ones who don’t have a vested interest in a particular fact being true or false? That’s the theory (key word) of having media at (another key word) events like this. They are to report simple facts. Were things thrown?
It’s like when sports reporters ask an off-season injured free agents whether he’ll be 100% ready for the next season. Of course they’re coming back “stronger” than before. It’s pointless to ask. Why listen to someone who will give you a story that suits their best interest. In fact, they’re the *least* important person to listen to.
If you have a story that comes from one person in a room of 100 (made up number), that cannot be backed up by others in that very same room, and that person has a vested interest in the particular result they’re claiming, why would you listen to them? You’d seek out neutral parties, you’d seek our witnesses, you’d seek out anyone with information related to the event.
That’s what’s going on now. That’s why people think this story is bunk.
Have you ever been in a situation and asked yourself, “Why am I in a room where everyone is wrong about a particular fact except for me?” Usually, in those cases, you’re the exception, not the rule.
This is not currently an issue of racism — it’s an issue of fact. Let’s get our facts straight so we can figure out allegations so we can make certain conclusions.
From what I’ve read, Michael Steele’s own description of the event in question included a comment that liberal activists passed out Oreos to the crowd (which is just a little short of giving everyone a popsickle-stick cross and a matchbook, in my opinion) and that an Oreo “rolled onto the stage” during the debate. I don’t believe that Michael Steele ever said that he was “pelted” with Oreos.
But as I pointed out before, the repeated food attacks by liberals against conservative speakers make this story believable. I’m not sure what the food attacks symbolize. Maybe someone has a fetish about cream pies and Ann Coulter, for all I know.
But if Democrats want to be ultimately concerned about accuracy and honesty when relaying the details of an event, I would suggest that they think over their dishonest “Bush lied us into war” arguments very carefully.
But if Democrats want to be ultimately concerned about accuracy…
…I suggest throwing Moon Pies. Much bigger, greater accuracy.
No one matters but Steele. Especially not this guy:
“It didn’t happen here,” said Vander Harris, operations manager of the Murphy Fine Arts Building at Morgan State. “I was in on the cleanup, and we found no cookies or anything else abnormal. There were no Oreo cookies thrown.”
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/politics/bal-md.oreos13nov13,0,6788452.story
Actually the best part is, even assuming it never happened, black leftist democrats were defending the action!
It hardly matters whether it actually happened or nto when you have that kind of in-your-face bigotry eh?
The whole oreo story never even started circulating until almost a week after the debate. Since then, Steele and the rethugs have changed their story several times. Now, Steele is backing away as the facts come out. Only a terminally brain-dead zombie Jesus-juicer would think it isn’t just another swift-boat lie.
“..simply out of touch with mainstream Maryland values.”
So, since Oliver said he’d be quite pleased to have Kwesi Mfume as his Senator, let the record show that Oliver considers fathering five illegitimate kids a “mainstream Maryland value”.
That’s the way the Oreo cookie crumbles
Doug MacEachern is caught in a lie yet again. (Read more)
As drpedro points out, the left was more than willing to defend the tactic long before it was brought into question.
I feel the phrase “fake, but accurate” coming over me…
J.
As drpedro points out,
I find it more entertaining that mr. pedro is retreating to the classic right-wing, “it doesn’t matter if it isn’t true, it should be true!” debate tactic. The Republican mind is a junkyard of urban legends and half-truths that they all wish were actually factual, but in the end they are content to remain living in anti-reality.
Constantine, go back and look at the stories about the incident. High-ranking Democrats not only had no problem believing that it happened, but defended it as valid. While if it is established that Mr. Steel did actually fabricate these incidents, he certainly should be condemned and repudiated, it is amazingly enlightening to see just who had no problems with the allegations and didn’t challenge them, but took them as entirely plausible and acceptable.
The moving hand hath writ, Constantine, and prominent MD Democrats are on record as saying that such tactics are understandable and acceptable. Good luck trying to stuff that genie back into the bottle and blame it on the Republicans, but like the video at gop.com (http://www.gop.com/Default.aspx?s=video), it’s their own words that are hanging the Democrats now.
J.
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If so many examples are available, perhaps you’d be so good as to show us one or two?
Here’s a hint: don’t bother with the Washington Times’ sensational hatchet job. They wrote up a story with innocuous direct quotes from Maryland Dems, which the Times reporter generously reworded for better effect.
The way you make it sound, Jay Tea, the examples should be…(ahem)…thick as locusts!
Hello? Is this thing on?
“…prominent MD Democrats are on record…”?!?
Jay Tea? Anybody?
Here, let me help you.
Right here is the Washington Times article in which several prominent MD Democrats “go on the record” approving the tactics used against Mr. Steele.
Read carefully. Note the language inside the quote marks and how the reporter helpfully rewords each quote.
Notice also that the reporter who offers us this story–S.A. Miller–is the one who has been hawking this story for the Times all along, but who was not actually at the event in question, according to the Times’ managing editor.
Hey, Oliver?
Check the Trollbot server, willya? I think it’s offline again.
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