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Has To Be Asked

Is “immigration reform” the 21st century version of the southern strategy?

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10 Responses to “Has To Be Asked”

  1. elrod says:

    Immigration is an insurgent GOP issue. It’s the issue that separates the run-of-the-mill blue collar conservative white Republican from the leadership of the party, which cares only about the usefulness of cheap labor for corporate profits. The reason you hear right wing talk radio people hammering away on immigration is that the people who listen to those shows are exactly the people who are negatively affected by illegal immigration. Another problem for the GOP leadership is the fear that excessive focus on immigration will inevitably result in Hispanic-baiting and that will set the party back decades in gaining the Hispanic vote. Considering that Hispanics are an increasing voting bloc, and those pissed off by the Hispanic presence in the United States are a decreasing – though still powerful in the GOP – bloc, the leadership wants to be on the side of the group that is gaining in size. Expect this to be a huge GOP primary issue, but a dud in the general election.

  2. Quaker in a Basement says:

    In a word: maybe.

    I don’t think you’ll see the GOP as unified around “immigration reform” as they were around the southern strategy.

    Yes, there’s a contingent within the GOP that will play to fears about illegal immigration. But there’s also a pro-business faction (like George W. Bush) whose financial backers depend on a steady supply of cheap labor.

    Here in Colorado, our own lovely Mr. Tancredo is one of the leaders of the former group, but he’s definitely out of favor with the White House crowd.

  3. nawoods says:

    No.

  4. Frank_D says:

    Not even close.

    The immigration is a heck of a lot more complex than either conservatives or liberals make it out to be.

    There are people mouthing off about immigration that don’t know anything about “acculturation”, the effects on public health, or the “cultural pathway to therapy”, who claim that immigration is about jobs and welfare.

    These are the same people, by the way, who usually think everything is about jobs and welfare, whether they are on the left or the right.

  5. pionar says:

    Hey, Frank, why are you so worried about acculturation? Hispanic immigrants do us no harm. Your references to acculturation and public health show your inner racist colors.

    You see Hispanics as a threat to your culture and see them as dirty, diseased lepers. Shame on you. I have no freakin clue what you mean by “cultural pathway to therapy”. I did a google search and came up with squat. Enlighten us menally incompetent liberals on your brilliant theory, won’t you please?

  6. randy says:

    “Hispanic immigrants do us no harm.”

    Dallas Police Officer Brian Jackson became another open borders statistic on Nov. 13 when he was shot and killed by illegal alien Juan Lizcano
    Lizcano had become drunk and went to the home of his ex-girfriend to threaten her. As the police pursued Lizcano after he fled the woman’s home, he shot Officer Jackson, who died later in the hospital.
    Officer Jackson was remembered by his fellow police as someone who loved his job and always went the extra mile.
    “From Day One, he just enjoyed police work and took pride in it. And he always wanted to learn everything he could. He was very dedicated,” Officer Carcone said. “He went above and beyond.
    “He’d stay late. He’d cover anybody. He was always looking to help everybody he could.”
    Jackson was 28 and had worked previously as part of an ambulance team. He had gotten married just two months ago.

    Yep, No harm at all.

    “Some of the most violent criminals at large today are illegal aliens. Yet in cities where the crime these aliens commit is highest, the police cannot use the most obvious tool to apprehend them: their immigration status. In Los Angeles, for example, dozens of members of a ruthless Salvadoran prison gang have sneaked back into town after having been deported for such crimes as murder, assault with a deadly weapon, and drug trafficking. Police officers know who they are and know that their mere presence in the country is a felony. Yet should a cop arrest an illegal gangbanger for felonious reentry, it is he who will be treated as a criminal, for violating the LAPD s rule against enforcing immigration law”

    http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html

  7. Frank_D says:

    Pionar, your reference to Hispanic immigrants shows your “inner racist colors”

    I didn’t metion immigrants of any race or ethnic group — why did you?

    I also didn’t mention that the failure of any immigrant group to acculturate was “harmful to us.” It’s harmful to them! Especially in terms of employment and housing. Was that too obvious for you?

    The public health issue? For one:tuberculosis is on the rise. The likeliest cause? Immigration, and not from Mexico.

    “Path to culture” is therapeutic jargon, and doesn’t usually show up on EBay, or weblogs.

    It refers to the notion that different cultures have different religious, social, and familial obstacles to therapy. For example, hispanics generally seek familial solutions, then Church related solutions to psychological problems, before seeking out therapy.

    Other cultures have different “paths to therapy.” The problems? Domestic violence, substance abuse, school truancy and juvenile delinquency, among others. All defy solution, for the most part, until the family acculturates.

    “‘Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and
    remove all doubt.”
    – Mark Twain

  8. Ryland says:

    I didn t metion immigrants of any race or ethnic group  why did you?

    Because, as you well know, immigration across the Mexican border is the only immigration problem being seriously discussed right now. Acting like you didn’t realize that’s what we’re talking about just to set someone else up to look racist is disingenuous and an extremely cheap debate tactic, and you delivered it right on cue.

  9. Frank_D says:

    Ryland: the man called me a racist, and referred to Hispanic immigrants. I turned the tables on him, so I’m the bad guy?

    I didn’t set him up for anything. Maybe my point was that immigration is a serious problem, of which Mexican border crossings are a part.

    I think calling someone a racist, with zero evidence, is worse than a “cheap debate tactic.” Apparently, you do not.

  10. Homer says:

    There are a lot of people who will vote with whoever talks about closing down the borders. The media likes the story, too… Look at the Minutemen non-story and how it occupies whole news cycles.

    Democrats should turn the border into their issue. They need to point out that the Republicans’ true constituency is the rich guy who makes the money, not the worker displaced by immigrants (legal or otherwise). Democrats could take the position that there needs to be a parity between the needs of Americans to make a living, and the opportunity America offers the world. Simply shutting off the border doesn’t achieve this.

    Good luck finding a workable plan, though…