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Dean:
“The resounding victories tonight by Jon Corzine and Tim Kaine have sent a powerful message that when Democrats stand up for what we believe in, we win. They showed that the values and priorities of the Democratic Party are the values and priorities of the American people.
“Jon Corzine and Tim Kaine were strong candidates who offered vision and leadership based on the shared values and priorities of the voters of New Jersey and Virginia. They worked hard to earn the trust and the votes of the people in their states by not taking a single vote or voter for granted.
“Also tonight, voters all across the country delivered a resounding message: Americans are tired of the politics of hate and divisiveness, and voted for strong Democratic candidates who offered true leadership for their states and communities. These candidates showed exactly what our party is going to do to stand up and win in 2006.”
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KOS;
Another Update: Seen around the Kaine victory party in Richmond: tshirts with the inscription: FYSH
What does it stand for?( Fuck You )Forget You Scott Howell.
Howell was the guy behind the Swift Boat Veterans and did Kilgore’s “Kaine wouldn’t execute Hitler” ads.
The quote Dean didn’t give:
“Also tonight, voters all across the country delivered a resounding message: Americans will vote for strong Democratic candidates to replace outgoing Democratic officials for their states and communities. The status quo will continue!”
Dean quote:
“Democrats have shown in Virginia that if they take enough Republican positions, they can win!!!! Yearrrgghhhh!!!!”
Democrats in Va. line up behind no more gun control laws. Then understand that high taxes on societies producers and entrepreneurs lower productivity – pledge no new taxes. Ds like Hillary decide to aggressively fight the war on terror by actually going to war against terrorists. And in a dark cellar of the WH a crafty Karl Rove rubs his hands together in glee.
Dugger, A Bad News Day for the Responsible – but not too bad
Dugger
But umm, not as many Republican positions as a Republican. Otherwise the Republicans would have won, yes?
From Polly; a s I noted yesterday, the results in Virginia and New Jersey aren t very indicative of what will happen in 2006. Democrats won both these states in 2001 – when President Bush was at the height of his popularity – but Republicans still won the 2002 midterms.
More important are some of the ballot initiatives this year. The California initiatives all went down. Here in Washington state, I-912 may or may not pass (the results are too close to call.)
The fate of the ballot initiatives indicates a real need for the GOP to make an ideological case to voters. This president typically makes the case for competence, not ideology. However, in the wake of Iraq-gas-prices-Katrina-Libby-Miers, competence is no longer an argument that works in favor of the GOP.
Republicans need to find simple themes and reconnect with voters. In order to win in 2006, they need to give voters what they waminor concession. Can you find it?
Isn’t that called DINO or Republican-lite?
I screwed that royally;
From Polipundit. Can you find the concession?
As I noted yesterday, the results in Virginia and New Jersey aren t very indicative of what will happen in 2006. Democrats won both these states in 2001 – when President Bush was at the height of his popularity – but Republicans still won the 2002 midterms.
More important are some of the ballot initiatives this year. The California initiatives all went down. Here in Washington state, I-912 may or may not pass (the results are too close to call.)
The fate of the ballot initiatives indicates a real need for the GOP to make an ideological case to voters. This president typically makes the case for competence, not ideology. However, in the wake of Iraq-gas-prices-Katrina-Libby-Miers, competence is no longer an argument that works in favor of the GOP.
Republicans need to find simple themes and reconnect with voters. In order to win in 2006, they need to give voters what they want.
Oliver, or one of youse, I really need an explan-a-ning: Who in their right (pun fully intended) mind truly believed Corzine was even close to ever losing his effort to become Jersey’s Guv? In reality he locked it up before he ever declared. I live next door (in Staten Island) and pretty much all my family lives in the Garden State. Not a one ever gave the other clown the time of day last time out, never mind this time.
Sadie,
Yeah, you’re right. Bottom line Democrats retained their seats and Virginia should have been closer. Thoughts:
Important Ripple Effect Winners:
Mark Warner
DLC
Rudy G (endorsed Bloomberg – now the clear front runner, McCain 2)
Hodean
Important Ripple Effect Losers:
George Bush
EX Gov. Allen
Arnie
Hilary
The idiots are handing Dems Congress and the WH.
Republican goomers like Ted Stevens are the Christmas gift that keeps giving.
From Kos;
“CEOs from the nation’s biggest oil companies sparred with lawmakers Wednesday at a Senate hearing into this year’s jump in oil prices and record industry profits.
The contentious hearing comes as consumers face a jump of 50 percent or more in home heating bills this winter and gasoline prices have surged 20 percent this year.
It also came after some Democrats slammed Republicans recently for pushing through more federal subsidies for oil companies rather than trying to help consumers cope with the rise in energy prices. (Full story)
Even before the remarks got started, Democrats and Republicans were at each other over whether energy executives should have to swear to tell the truth before the panel.
Senate Commerce Chairman Ted Stevens rejected calls by some Democrats to have the executives sworn in, saying the law already required them to tell the truth.”
And I guess Bubba’s coattails in NYC don’t mean jack either, even when registered Democrats outnumber Republicans 5-1.
I say the the Dems better find some pretty damned good candidates in 2006 if they want to even scratch the surface of a turnaround. Cause the seats that are up in 2006 only have a limited few toss-ups in ANY scenario.
Wow Marty, Dems lost seats in Virginia state legistlature huh? Thats so much more important than governor. I feel so humiliated, all the media will talk about is our defeat in the heated Attorney Gen. race in red Virginia.
The wingnut attempts to play down their electoral defeats are so pathetic. Next, well be hearing “we didnt even WANT your stupid governorships!”
I guess the rest of the elections in Virginia don’t mean much, eh, Oliver.
Hint- look at the rest of the ticket in Virginia and see how the Democrats fared. Hmmmm……
Lt. Governor? EHHHH!
Attorney General? EHHH!
State House? Did the Democrats make ANY gains? EHHH! (Looks like they lost seats.)
Yep. Quite a national referendum on the current White House.
And what was that? A Democrat won in NEW JERSEY?!!! Whoa!
Bubba’s an ex-president. Bush is a sitting president. One would expect the latter to have more clout.
It doesn’t surprise me that there would be contention against having the executives sworn in. If they lie under oath, they end up committing a felony. As long as you keep that pesky oath out of it, it’s just bad mojo, not criminal.
a win is a win is a win marty. If we lost, youd be gloating about that. So go crawl into your corner and weep quietly some more.
I know. It’s a huge victory for you that a state that has had a Democratic Governor for 20 of the last 28 years elected a Democrat.
But keep playing the “referendum” trumpet. And be SURE that the Dems have great candidates in ’06 cause there are very few toss-up races coming up.
If I had predicted a Republican win, and they won, perhaps I would have considered gloating. Neither happened, thus, weeping is unnecessary. Besides- “gloating” is not my style. One who gloats when they win is also the one hit hardest when they lose.
Congratulations! The Democrat who ran as a conservative won. And besides- Warner is a great Governor. If Kaine is half as good, Virginia is in good hands.
No great loss there.
And New Jersey? Yep. That is a surprising win for the little guy. Er… well, whatever.
So, we in NJ got another corrupt liberal Democrat for governer. Same ol’, same ol’ here in the Garden State.
rightisright from NJ, where Trenton Politics make Chicago’s look like a girl scout meeting.
Hey, “johnnyprogressive”?
Does “You are a roaring ass” work?
Or should I get, y’know, …steet.
And shoot you at your current feetr.
LeatherPenguin, I’m not one for arbitrary language requirements, but if you want to post here, it might help that you learn English. I don’t give a damn if it’s Ebonics — I don’t agree with Oliver on this topic — but something that makes sense to someone else. You are a little challenged in this regard. Since most of the rest of the Internet is in English, you’ll find that learning it will help you on other sites. If English isn’t for you, you might want to try Spanish or French or Japanese, but pick something that makes sense to at least one other person in the world.
Also, nice left-wing symbol on your Planearium avatar.