You’re here, aren’t you, jackoff?

You can rest assured that I will never view a serious film again without thinking that a barbarian like you might one day be making such films. For all I know, I might be plunking down an outrageous amount of money to see one of yours. That would be more than I could bear.

Why don’t the two of you scumbags give it up. I mean, really, you have so very little to say, and if I had any willingness to listen to it yesterday, I surely don’t today.

Frameone, you so proudly proclaimed me “stupid, an idiot, an asshole, a moron, a dipshit, a racist, a bigot and a liar.” How might it even be possible that I could “engage with art”, beyond gambling dogs on velvet, anyway. I mean, shucks, I ain’t got no book larnin’ or nuthin’. What do I know about art?

And I’m sure TomY is right when he calls me a Neanderthal. I am a little confused, though. Weren’t they those cave fellers that lived about 40,000 years ago, before the Crow Magnums? Land o’ Goshen, I’m really, really, really old, nearly 60 and all, but I ain’t that old.

And I guess if TomY’s Mom is a bigot, I guess I am, too. After all, he’s a right smart feller, and he oughta know.

To think that someone like you might actually earn a Ph. D is enough to make me stop thinking about getting one. I would hate to even be in that small educational fraternity with a savage like you. And you claim to be studying the arts. I fear for the future of civilization in the hands of a Hun like you.

By the same token, hiding the fact that Muslims are involved, using terms like “youths” and “immigrants”, is equally foolish.

But, as long as it is more important to accuse people, such as myself, of bigotry, than it is to find rhyme or reason, you will continue to be wrong in your accusation, and you will find neither rhyme nor reason.

But that is now your problem. I’ve done my home work for today, thank you. I had a fun today doing one of the other things I really enjoy, besides annoying you liberals.

From IMDB:

“This movie is at the moment being broadcast on the French channel TV5. It shows the events of 17th October 1961 when the police in Paris were ordered to crush brutally a pro Algerian FLN protest against a curfew imposed on Algerians in Paris. What emerged was in short appalling. Police Prefect Papon previously a Vichy boss who was involved in the German expulsion of the French Jews from France. It is thought anything up to 200+ Algerians were murdered in these events, before these events up to 30 police had been murdered by the FLN in Paris hence an urge for revenge existed and was encouraged by the Interior Minister Fey and Prefect Papon. It was perhaps foolish, given these circumstances, for the FLN to engage in demonstrations in Paris given the feelings but it is no excuse for the killings that happened. It is time that these events were officially investigated and those responsible brought to justice whilst they are still alive.”

Frank you’re an old man. Remember France in 1968? Right off the bat, the author has no idea what he’s talking about. He talks about experts but doesn’t cite any namely because France’s immigration and assimilation policies have been a central part of the discussion about why the riots happened:

“France’s immigration policy comes under scrutiny as papers in France and beyond consider the political repercussions of continuing riots.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4413262.stm

That said, France hardly has a policy of “uncontrolled immigration.” The assertaion is ludicrous on its face. So to is the argument that a lack of assimilation is technology’s fault and has nothing to do with French policies and attitudes that treat immigrants and even legal citizens of Muslim or Arab descent as second class citizens. I also wonder how many of the rioters living in these slum areas own a satellite dish. The Right has simply taken the riots and tied to their already distorted understanding of French culture and society. France is not a multicultural country. Plain and simple. It never has been. Immigration policies swing between moderate and hard right influences with the hard right, people like Nicholas Sarkovsky, in the ascendence. Indeed, it was Sarkovsky who launched the police raids that preceeded the riots and became the touchstone for rioters in days to come.

The point is, no one condones violence or rioting, but as TomY says, trying to explain it all in terms of Islam alone simply isn’t helpful or illuminating.

A truly disturbing image. You’re not Cormac McCarthy, are you, Frank?

Typical frameone trajectory:

1. Left wing “talking points” peppered with needlessy aggressive language, and profanity and obscenity.

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Fails to recognize that the “old man” has slept like a baby while he was up all night, sharpening his teeth with a file.

Falls asleep, wishing his life were a film; wakes up to discover he’s about to be thrown across a nightclub by Mighty Joe Young.

Why is France Burning? Is America Next?

Free Muslims Against Terrorism

More options Nov 8 (15 hours ago)
Why is France Burning? Is America Next?

By Kamal Nawash

For the last two weeks, France has experienced riots the likes of which it has not seen
in decades. In terms of destruction, the unrest is France’s worst since World War II.

More than a thousand cars have been burned along with several buildings and hundreds
have been arrested. For the most part, the riots are being carried out by the children
of poor immigrants most of whom are Muslim. [emphasis added]

Since the riots began, many have given their two cents as to why France is burning.
Some say this is a result of years of discrimination and deprivation, some say the riots
are a function of a jihad whereby Muslims are trying to turn Europe into a Muslim
continent, and yet others conclude that the riots are a function of decades of failed
policies by France and other Western Nations.

While there is no one cause for the French riots, none of the “experts” have considered
decades of failed immigration policies as the cause of the riots. France, similar to
the United States and most western countries, has experienced decades of out of control
legal and illegal immigration. France, similar to the United States, has responded with
liberal and inadequate immigration enforcement that has caused the nations’ demographics
to change rapidly.

Nations like France, the United States and other Western Nations must come to terms with
their immigration policies. They can either strictly control and limit illegal and
legal immigration or be willing to accept that uncontrolled immigration will change the
makeup, values and culture of their nations.

Unlike past immigrant generations who quickly assimilated, today’s immigrants take much
longer to assimilate if they assimilate at all. This is due to technology. In the
past, immigrants were generally cut of from their mother countries which made
assimilation much easier. Today, satellite technology brings movies, news and culture
from an immigrant’s home country to the living room of his adopted country via TV, the
internet and other forms of media. In the United States for example, a Hispanic
immigrant can live in the United States for decades without having to learn a word of
English or adopt American culture. They can turn on Spanish only TV and Radio, read
Spanish news papers and read government forms in Spanish. This phenomenon is taking
place all over the Western Nations.

Thus, to avoid the riots in France, Western Nations must look in the mirror and ask
themselves if they are willing to accept the changes that come with liberal immigration
policies. If the answer is no then Western Nations must control illegal immigration and
adopt more manageable immigration policies.

Kamal Nawash is the president of the Free Muslims Coalition, an organization that was
created to eliminate broad base support for Islamic extremism and terrorism and to
strengthen secular democratic institutions in the Middle East and the Muslim World.

Kamal Nawash, 202-776-7190, 301-905-6438, president@freemuslims.org

For more information, visit our website at http://www.freemuslims.org

{ If only I had had those percentage points rights — gee, I was foolish, eh? )

1. Ridiculous unverifiable claim.
2. Defensive response to requests for evidence.
3. Flurry of links to non-sequitor articles that typically undermine the original claim, instead of support it.
4. Sputtering about rudeness and civlity combined with an obvious attempt to re-assert authority by directly referencing age.
5. Sputtered one line insults.
6. Declaration of victory and refusal to speak any further on the subject.
7. More sputtered one liners in desperate attempt to have the last word.
8. Final, sad recognition that young whipper snappers can stay up later than him.
9. Fitful sleep. Nightmares about wasted life.

Hey Frank. Mow my lawn.

I will not go back and read all your posts, after you spent the day haranguing me, with your erstwhile colleagues, over totally meaningless percentage points.

What seemed to be an issue worth discussiing this morning has devolved, as many threads do, into something else entirely.

You need to be taken down a peg or two, young man. You are not in charge around here. You don’t lead or moderate discussions around here. And, you damn sure don’t reach across cyberspace and bully me into doing your bidding by behaving as you have done here and on other threads.

Face it Frank, I have called you stupid, an idiot, an asshole, a moron, a dipshit, a racist, a bigot and a liar. I stand by those claims.

How proud you must have felt typing that, how cool, you must have really felt like your “colleagues” were impressed!

If you were half a man, you would owe me a dozen apologies. But now you expect me to “understand” why you call me names?