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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/04/useful-idiots/#comment-11786</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not funny at all...
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		<title>By: buma</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/04/useful-idiots/#comment-11785</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 08:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how wingers can be so quick to separate themselves from Pat Robertson, Falwell or David Duke, while accusing Democrats as aligning themselves with Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton or Cindy FerChrissake Sheehan.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how wingers can be so quick to separate themselves from Pat Robertson, Falwell or David Duke, while accusing Democrats as aligning themselves with Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton or Cindy FerChrissake Sheehan.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/04/useful-idiots/#comment-11784</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 21:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JadeGold the Putz: 1997 was eight years ago. Perhaps some Reublicans believe that some of the people on David Duke&#039;s mailing list, might vote Republican. It doesn&#039;t mean, at all, that any Republicans are David Duke supporters, now does it?

White Whale: This is absolutely no different from Democrats who don&#039;t even court the black vote, because they don&#039;t have to. I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if more than half of the Democratic Congresspersons, and Senators, including blacks and hispanics, don&#039;t care about blacks or hispanics, either.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JadeGold the Putz: 1997 was eight years ago. Perhaps some Reublicans believe that some of the people on David Duke&#8217;s mailing list, might vote Republican. It doesn&#8217;t mean, at all, that any Republicans are David Duke supporters, now does it?</p>
<p>White Whale: This is absolutely no different from Democrats who don&#8217;t even court the black vote, because they don&#8217;t have to. I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if more than half of the Democratic Congresspersons, and Senators, including blacks and hispanics, don&#8217;t care about blacks or hispanics, either.</p>
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		<title>By: White Whale</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/04/useful-idiots/#comment-11783</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 16:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t the point that Republicans exploit the religious conservatives for thier monetary gain? It is real simple, the religion of money does not believe the same as does evangelicals. I wouldn&#039;t be suprised that Bush and Delay et al. don&#039;t believe in God or 90% of the shit they pimp as wedge issues. Meanwhile guys like Farris and Frank are too busy having thier feeling hurt by people attacking thier leaders for being shallow and pointing out the obvious. I will give the Republicans credit for having several different sects of philosphy, but they all seem too dense to see that these different philosphies not only conflict with reality, but with thier own realities.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t the point that Republicans exploit the religious conservatives for thier monetary gain? It is real simple, the religion of money does not believe the same as does evangelicals. I wouldn&#8217;t be suprised that Bush and Delay et al. don&#8217;t believe in God or 90% of the shit they pimp as wedge issues. Meanwhile guys like Farris and Frank are too busy having thier feeling hurt by people attacking thier leaders for being shallow and pointing out the obvious. I will give the Republicans credit for having several different sects of philosphy, but they all seem too dense to see that these different philosphies not only conflict with reality, but with thier own realities.</p>
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		<title>By: Jadegold</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/04/useful-idiots/#comment-11782</link>
		<dc:creator>Jadegold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;1989? That was only&amp;  16 years ago!&lt;/i&gt;

Care for something a bit more recent, Frankie?

OK.

In 1996, the Family Research Council President, Tony Perkins (you&#039;ve heard of him--Bill Frist is a big buddy of his) paid David Duke $82,500 for his mailing list.

In 1995 and 1997, GOP governor Mike Foster paid Duke for his mailing list.

Hmmm.

Seems GOPers seem to think folks who support David Duke might also support them, doesn&#039;t it?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>1989? That was only&#038;  16 years ago!</i></p>
<p>Care for something a bit more recent, Frankie?</p>
<p>OK.</p>
<p>In 1996, the Family Research Council President, Tony Perkins (you&#8217;ve heard of him&#8211;Bill Frist is a big buddy of his) paid David Duke $82,500 for his mailing list.</p>
<p>In 1995 and 1997, GOP governor Mike Foster paid Duke for his mailing list.</p>
<p>Hmmm.</p>
<p>Seems GOPers seem to think folks who support David Duke might also support them, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/04/useful-idiots/#comment-11781</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 00:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it was a play on the Lumpy Gravy hit tune &quot;The Idiot Bastard Son&quot;

I&#039;m sure Zappa would not have objected.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it was a play on the Lumpy Gravy hit tune &#8220;The Idiot Bastard Son&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Zappa would not have objected.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/04/useful-idiots/#comment-11780</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 21:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1989? That was only... 16 years ago!

If you&#039;re posting a story, and leave it open to interpretation, then it&#039;s going to be interpreted by the readers.

If the writer has a problem, he can disagree.

What I&#039;m reading here is that I&#039;m wrong for about three or four different reasons, some of which conflict with each other.

One, as for De Lay, there is a legal proceeding pending which will determine the relationship between Abramoff and De Lay. It is not a &quot;given.&quot;

The influence of Reed on the RNC, or vice versa, is not a &quot;given.&quot;

Scanlon is a &lt;b&gt;former&lt;/b&gt; employee of Abramoff.

The title of the post is &quot;Useful Idiots&quot;, an obvious play on Lenin&#039;s famous quote.

What do you think he was driving at?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1989? That was only&#8230; 16 years ago!</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re posting a story, and leave it open to interpretation, then it&#8217;s going to be interpreted by the readers.</p>
<p>If the writer has a problem, he can disagree.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m reading here is that I&#8217;m wrong for about three or four different reasons, some of which conflict with each other.</p>
<p>One, as for De Lay, there is a legal proceeding pending which will determine the relationship between Abramoff and De Lay. It is not a &#8220;given.&#8221;</p>
<p>The influence of Reed on the RNC, or vice versa, is not a &#8220;given.&#8221;</p>
<p>Scanlon is a <b>former</b> employee of Abramoff.</p>
<p>The title of the post is &#8220;Useful Idiots&#8221;, an obvious play on Lenin&#8217;s famous quote.</p>
<p>What do you think he was driving at?</p>
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		<title>By: Naked Ape</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/04/useful-idiots/#comment-11779</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 19:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Frank,
&lt;i&gt;David Duke has been linked to the Republican Party many times&lt;/i&gt;, for example: In 1989, &lt;b&gt;he ran as a Republican&lt;/b&gt; for a seat in the Louisiana State House of Representatives.

Look it up, I believe it made the papers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Frank,<br />
<i>David Duke has been linked to the Republican Party many times</i>, for example: In 1989, <b>he ran as a Republican</b> for a seat in the Louisiana State House of Representatives.</p>
<p>Look it up, I believe it made the papers.</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 18:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quaker is right although it&#039;s more like if Hillary Clinton (or her fundraising chief) was caught discussing how best to cynically exploit the &quot;lunacy&quot; of the MoveOn.org crowd. As usual Frank misses the point by a country mile. This isn&#039;t about whether Dobson or Robertson represents conservatives. Clearly the real Republican power players think that these Christian leaders, and the people who follow them, are not representative of the Republican party. They are merely the single issue, mindless bovine that need to be shocked with a cattle prod (&quot;Oh my god, gay marriage!&quot; Zzzap!) every once in a while if they are to be herded into election booths so they can vote against their economic self-interest. It&#039;s a ranchers dream: Cows that cut their own throats. Here we have a clear example of just how cynical and unprincipled the Republican leadership really is.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quaker is right although it&#8217;s more like if Hillary Clinton (or her fundraising chief) was caught discussing how best to cynically exploit the &#8220;lunacy&#8221; of the MoveOn.org crowd. As usual Frank misses the point by a country mile. This isn&#8217;t about whether Dobson or Robertson represents conservatives. Clearly the real Republican power players think that these Christian leaders, and the people who follow them, are not representative of the Republican party. They are merely the single issue, mindless bovine that need to be shocked with a cattle prod (&#8220;Oh my god, gay marriage!&#8221; Zzzap!) every once in a while if they are to be herded into election booths so they can vote against their economic self-interest. It&#8217;s a ranchers dream: Cows that cut their own throats. Here we have a clear example of just how cynical and unprincipled the Republican leadership really is.</p>
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		<title>By: Dkelsmith</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/04/useful-idiots/#comment-11777</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 18:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Frank_D,


&lt;i&gt;Dkelsmith, David Duke has been linked to the Republican Party many times, right here in these threads, and, yes, there have been calls to denounce him.

Ralph Reed apparently spends way way more time with the Christian Coalition, than he does with the RNC, but, of course, in your mind, they re the same.

&lt;/i&gt;

In my mind they are the same?  I hardly think so, I am probably not nearly conservative enough for your liking, but I am far from the type that regurgitates every right-bashing slogan I can find.  But, I would venture to say that in YOUR mind you probably see anybody left of center sitting in the same light as Farakhan, Sharpton, and Jackson.  I seriously doubt you refrain from lumping people together for the sake of argument.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Frank_D,</p>
<p><i>Dkelsmith, David Duke has been linked to the Republican Party many times, right here in these threads, and, yes, there have been calls to denounce him.</p>
<p>Ralph Reed apparently spends way way more time with the Christian Coalition, than he does with the RNC, but, of course, in your mind, they re the same.</p>
<p></i></p>
<p>In my mind they are the same?  I hardly think so, I am probably not nearly conservative enough for your liking, but I am far from the type that regurgitates every right-bashing slogan I can find.  But, I would venture to say that in YOUR mind you probably see anybody left of center sitting in the same light as Farakhan, Sharpton, and Jackson.  I seriously doubt you refrain from lumping people together for the sake of argument.</p>
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		<title>By: mr.curmudgeon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/04/useful-idiots/#comment-11776</link>
		<dc:creator>mr.curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 18:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Finally, as usual, DeLay, hated by the left, is guilty before trial.&lt;/i&gt;

Finally, and as usual, Frank pretends that the court of public opinion is the same as a court of law.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Finally, as usual, DeLay, hated by the left, is guilty before trial.</i></p>
<p>Finally, and as usual, Frank pretends that the court of public opinion is the same as a court of law.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/04/useful-idiots/#comment-11775</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 17:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem to be having a little trouble with your analogizer, Frank.

Let me help.

Suppose Cindy Sheehan were to be caught on tape or in an email saying something like, &quot;Ha! I can always count on those screwy moonbats to back me up!&quot;

&lt;i&gt;That&lt;/i&gt; would be similar to the situation we have here.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to be having a little trouble with your analogizer, Frank.</p>
<p>Let me help.</p>
<p>Suppose Cindy Sheehan were to be caught on tape or in an email saying something like, &#8220;Ha! I can always count on those screwy moonbats to back me up!&#8221;</p>
<p><i>That</i> would be similar to the situation we have here.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/04/useful-idiots/#comment-11774</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 17:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;whereas - currently - Dobson, Robertson and his ilk&lt;/i&gt; That&#039;s one way to say &quot;fundamentalist Christians&quot;, but if you mean &quot;Focus on the Family&quot; and the &quot;700 Club&quot;, that&#039;s just bunk, and you know it. Then again, maybe &lt;i&gt;you&#039;re&lt;/i&gt; the one who&#039;s out of touch with reality.

Dkelsmith, David Duke has been linked to the Republican Party many times, right here in these threads, and, yes, there have been calls to denounce him.

Ralph Reed apparently spends way way more time with the Christian Coalition, than he does with the RNC, but, of course, in your mind, they&#039;re the same.

Finally, as usual, DeLay, hated by the left, is guilty before trial.

Abramoff is hardly the &quot;face of Corporate America.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>whereas &#8211; currently &#8211; Dobson, Robertson and his ilk</i> That&#8217;s one way to say &#8220;fundamentalist Christians&#8221;, but if you mean &#8220;Focus on the Family&#8221; and the &#8220;700 Club&#8221;, that&#8217;s just bunk, and you know it. Then again, maybe <i>you&#8217;re</i> the one who&#8217;s out of touch with reality.</p>
<p>Dkelsmith, David Duke has been linked to the Republican Party many times, right here in these threads, and, yes, there have been calls to denounce him.</p>
<p>Ralph Reed apparently spends way way more time with the Christian Coalition, than he does with the RNC, but, of course, in your mind, they&#8217;re the same.</p>
<p>Finally, as usual, DeLay, hated by the left, is guilty before trial.</p>
<p>Abramoff is hardly the &#8220;face of Corporate America.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mr.curmudgeon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/04/useful-idiots/#comment-11773</link>
		<dc:creator>mr.curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SF,

Since when did Al Sharpton use millions of dollars, illegally funneled through various organizations, to fund a morally repugnant and ethically challenged redistricting effort to flip the balance of the Congress in his favor; and attempt to quash boycotting opposition legislators by using a federal agency (DHS) to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/may2003/tex-m17.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;round up&quot;&lt;/a&gt; political opponents?

I mean, these are the guys we&#039;re talking about. The very same people who pandered ceaselessly to the evangelical &quot;wackos&quot;, with promises of off-world, spayed and neutered homosexual colonies on Mars, and marketed the second coming of Jesus &quot;W&quot; Christ and his raging &quot;armies of compassion&quot;, marching from staged &quot;town hall&quot; to staged photo-op, only to be greeted with flowers and candy! Then delivered NOTHING but monies unto themselves and their crony friends.

Let&#039;s just be honest with each other. You know, and I know...these &quot;wackos&quot; on the right have MUCH more influence over the GOP, than the wackos on the left have over the Democratic party. Michael Moore DOES NOT, and HAS NOT, influenced policy, whereas - currently -  Dobson, Robertson and his ilk have their hands planted so deeply up the royal behinds of GOP policy makers all over the hill you can barely see their elbows.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SF,</p>
<p>Since when did Al Sharpton use millions of dollars, illegally funneled through various organizations, to fund a morally repugnant and ethically challenged redistricting effort to flip the balance of the Congress in his favor; and attempt to quash boycotting opposition legislators by using a federal agency (DHS) to <a href="http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/may2003/tex-m17.shtml" rel="nofollow">&#8220;round up&#8221;</a> political opponents?</p>
<p>I mean, these are the guys we&#8217;re talking about. The very same people who pandered ceaselessly to the evangelical &#8220;wackos&#8221;, with promises of off-world, spayed and neutered homosexual colonies on Mars, and marketed the second coming of Jesus &#8220;W&#8221; Christ and his raging &#8220;armies of compassion&#8221;, marching from staged &#8220;town hall&#8221; to staged photo-op, only to be greeted with flowers and candy! Then delivered NOTHING but monies unto themselves and their crony friends.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s just be honest with each other. You know, and I know&#8230;these &#8220;wackos&#8221; on the right have MUCH more influence over the GOP, than the wackos on the left have over the Democratic party. Michael Moore DOES NOT, and HAS NOT, influenced policy, whereas &#8211; currently &#8211;  Dobson, Robertson and his ilk have their hands planted so deeply up the royal behinds of GOP policy makers all over the hill you can barely see their elbows.</p>
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		<title>By: Dkelsmith</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/04/useful-idiots/#comment-11772</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank,

Come on man.  Likening Louis Farahkan to the left is like saying David Duke is your poster child for Conservatism.  Yes, there is aquite a bit of mud-slinging and opportunism on both sides, but come on.  But, you can&#039;t deny that the folks in the referenced article are Republicans.  But, to your defense, I never have been one that needed an apology or a forced denouncement from a group to make me feel any better.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank,</p>
<p>Come on man.  Likening Louis Farahkan to the left is like saying David Duke is your poster child for Conservatism.  Yes, there is aquite a bit of mud-slinging and opportunism on both sides, but come on.  But, you can&#8217;t deny that the folks in the referenced article are Republicans.  But, to your defense, I never have been one that needed an apology or a forced denouncement from a group to make me feel any better.</p>
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		<title>By: pionar</title>
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		<dc:creator>pionar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 15:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>savefarris, nice change of subject.  No one was talking about Pat Robertson.  We were talking about the corrupt people that have strong ties to the Republican party, especially those Republicans that are in power.

I&#039;m sorry you&#039;re so afraid of Al Sharpton.  He may have run for the Democratic nomination, but nobody voted for him.  Anyone can run.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>savefarris, nice change of subject.  No one was talking about Pat Robertson.  We were talking about the corrupt people that have strong ties to the Republican party, especially those Republicans that are in power.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry you&#8217;re so afraid of Al Sharpton.  He may have run for the Democratic nomination, but nobody voted for him.  Anyone can run.</p>
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		<title>By: pionar</title>
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		<dc:creator>pionar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 15:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank, that&#039;s just ridiculous.  Do you just not listen to yourself to do an idiocy check?  Sheehan, Farrakhan, Jackson, and Sharpton.  Hmmm, none of those people work for the Democratic party.  None of those people have held elected office or ever had an official connection with the DNC, except for Sharpton and Jackson, and that was only because they were running for office as Democrats.

Ralph Reed works for the RNC, and Abramoff and Scanlon are accused of money laundering.  Say what you will about Democrats, but these Republican fellas sure do seem to get into a lot of trouble over money laundering and lying to people.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, that&#8217;s just ridiculous.  Do you just not listen to yourself to do an idiocy check?  Sheehan, Farrakhan, Jackson, and Sharpton.  Hmmm, none of those people work for the Democratic party.  None of those people have held elected office or ever had an official connection with the DNC, except for Sharpton and Jackson, and that was only because they were running for office as Democrats.</p>
<p>Ralph Reed works for the RNC, and Abramoff and Scanlon are accused of money laundering.  Say what you will about Democrats, but these Republican fellas sure do seem to get into a lot of trouble over money laundering and lying to people.</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/04/useful-idiots/#comment-11769</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 15:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry curmudgeon.  The entire rationale the Left uses to &quot;prove&quot; that Pat Robertson is wholly indicative of all Right Wingers and influential inside the GOP is because he ran for President in 1988.  Meanwhile, Al Sharpton(!) runs for the Dem nomination in 2004 and he&#039;s only a &quot;less than moderate activist&quot;.

As for elected officials, there&#039;s McKinney, McDermott, McGreevy....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry curmudgeon.  The entire rationale the Left uses to &#8220;prove&#8221; that Pat Robertson is wholly indicative of all Right Wingers and influential inside the GOP is because he ran for President in 1988.  Meanwhile, Al Sharpton(!) runs for the Dem nomination in 2004 and he&#8217;s only a &#8220;less than moderate activist&#8221;.</p>
<p>As for elected officials, there&#8217;s McKinney, McDermott, McGreevy&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: mr.curmudgeon</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 15:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to get you started on the research:

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thenation.com/doc/20051114/berman&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jack Abramoff&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; was known as the &quot;godfather&quot; of Tom DeLay&#039;s lobbying network. DeLay himself once called Abramoff &quot;one of my closest and dearest friends.&quot;

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Scanlon&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Michael Scanlon&lt;/a&gt; (GOP Mega-lobbyist) - Currently under investigation together with his partner &lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;Jack Abramoff, Grover Norquist and Ralph Reed&lt;/b&gt; by separate state and federal grand jury investigations into lobbying performed for Indian tribes running casino gambling businesses. Before he became a lobbyist, he worked on Capitol Hill   as &lt;b&gt;Majority Leader Tom DeLay&#039;s press aide&lt;/b&gt;.

To compare a grieving anti-war mother to the corrupt power-brokers currently infesting the GOP just goes to show how far out of touch you are with reality.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to get you started on the research:</p>
<p><b><a href="http://www.thenation.com/doc/20051114/berman" rel="nofollow">Jack Abramoff</a></b> was known as the &#8220;godfather&#8221; of Tom DeLay&#8217;s lobbying network. DeLay himself once called Abramoff &#8220;one of my closest and dearest friends.&#8221;</p>
<p><b><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Scanlon" rel="nofollow">Michael Scanlon</a> (GOP Mega-lobbyist) &#8211; Currently under investigation together with his partner </b><b>Jack Abramoff, Grover Norquist and Ralph Reed</b> by separate state and federal grand jury investigations into lobbying performed for Indian tribes running casino gambling businesses. Before he became a lobbyist, he worked on Capitol Hill   as <b>Majority Leader Tom DeLay&#8217;s press aide</b>.</p>
<p>To compare a grieving anti-war mother to the corrupt power-brokers currently infesting the GOP just goes to show how far out of touch you are with reality.</p>
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		<title>By: mr.curmudgeon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/04/useful-idiots/#comment-11767</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 15:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apples and Oranges, Frank.

Louis Farrakhan and Cinday Sheehan are not Scanlon, Abramoff and DeLay. To compare these less than moderate activists to GOP operatives and elected officials is laughable.

Do you even know how these people (Scanlon, et al) have come to have such power and influence in your party? Do you even know who they are?

Seems to me, you are completely oblivious.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apples and Oranges, Frank.</p>
<p>Louis Farrakhan and Cinday Sheehan are not Scanlon, Abramoff and DeLay. To compare these less than moderate activists to GOP operatives and elected officials is laughable.</p>
<p>Do you even know how these people (Scanlon, et al) have come to have such power and influence in your party? Do you even know who they are?</p>
<p>Seems to me, you are completely oblivious.</p>
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