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		<title>By: Zappa</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/03/culture-of-corruption-for-11305/#comment-11603</link>
		<dc:creator>Zappa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 01:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kick the corrupt politcos out of office be they red or blue.
I bet there will be a lot more losses of red then blue.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kick the corrupt politcos out of office be they red or blue.<br />
I bet there will be a lot more losses of red then blue.</p>
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		<title>By: buma</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/03/culture-of-corruption-for-11305/#comment-11602</link>
		<dc:creator>buma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 00:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s important is exposing corruption and prosecuting it. The knee-jerk response of &quot;they do it too&quot; is not the way to react to corruption. ABSCAM involved quite a few perpetrators here in Philly and I am glad they were prosecuted. Of course they were mostly Democrats because this is a Democratic town. Since the federal government is controlled by the GOP, of course most of the corruption is by Republicans. The response should be to investigate, expose and prosecute, not to blame Clinton.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s important is exposing corruption and prosecuting it. The knee-jerk response of &#8220;they do it too&#8221; is not the way to react to corruption. ABSCAM involved quite a few perpetrators here in Philly and I am glad they were prosecuted. Of course they were mostly Democrats because this is a Democratic town. Since the federal government is controlled by the GOP, of course most of the corruption is by Republicans. The response should be to investigate, expose and prosecute, not to blame Clinton.</p>
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		<title>By: Hedley</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/03/culture-of-corruption-for-11305/#comment-11601</link>
		<dc:creator>Hedley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quaker, you, Semanticleo, and plenty others act as though corruption and the like is par for the course with the Republican party and a mere aberration when committed by a Democrat.

You can arrogantly deny it all you want but we have a political system that breeds corruption and no party is immune.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quaker, you, Semanticleo, and plenty others act as though corruption and the like is par for the course with the Republican party and a mere aberration when committed by a Democrat.</p>
<p>You can arrogantly deny it all you want but we have a political system that breeds corruption and no party is immune.</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/03/culture-of-corruption-for-11305/#comment-11600</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hedley;

I will grant you it occurs on both sides.

However, in 35 years there have been three administrations (actually, FOUR if you count the midnight escape by Bush I in his pardons of Iran/Contra indictees BEFORE they went to trial). who have been mired in incredible scandals that dwarf Democratic scandals in both numbers AND magnitude.

It would appear that corruption is endemic in the republican party.  Not that republicans are corrupt; rather it has to do with the opportunites that are a call of the wild to the corrupt, when republicans are in power.

Republican governmental policies are the Fertile Crescent of Corruptiion.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hedley;</p>
<p>I will grant you it occurs on both sides.</p>
<p>However, in 35 years there have been three administrations (actually, FOUR if you count the midnight escape by Bush I in his pardons of Iran/Contra indictees BEFORE they went to trial). who have been mired in incredible scandals that dwarf Democratic scandals in both numbers AND magnitude.</p>
<p>It would appear that corruption is endemic in the republican party.  Not that republicans are corrupt; rather it has to do with the opportunites that are a call of the wild to the corrupt, when republicans are in power.</p>
<p>Republican governmental policies are the Fertile Crescent of Corruptiion.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/03/culture-of-corruption-for-11305/#comment-11599</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Quaker, you, Semanticleo, and plenty others act as though corruption and the like is par for the course with the Republican party and a mere aberration when committed by a Democrat.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I won&#039;t speak on behalf of Semanticleo or the &quot;plenty others,&quot; but for my own part, I&#039;ll ask again: evidence, please?

As I said before, &quot;Hooray for ABSCAM!&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Quaker, you, Semanticleo, and plenty others act as though corruption and the like is par for the course with the Republican party and a mere aberration when committed by a Democrat.</p></blockquote>
<p>I won&#8217;t speak on behalf of Semanticleo or the &#8220;plenty others,&#8221; but for my own part, I&#8217;ll ask again: evidence, please?</p>
<p>As I said before, &#8220;Hooray for ABSCAM!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jay C</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/03/culture-of-corruption-for-11305/#comment-11598</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;These aren t aberrations or hiccups. They happen by design. Conservatives don t believe in an effective or useful government, they believe its only use is to get their cronies a steady salary and to make life easier for fat cat lobbyists and corporate crooks.&lt;/i&gt;

Christ Oliver, you sound like a fucking cartoon character. You&#039;re much smarter than this, so why do you do it? I mean, are you so afraid of losing readers like Jadegold?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>These aren t aberrations or hiccups. They happen by design. Conservatives don t believe in an effective or useful government, they believe its only use is to get their cronies a steady salary and to make life easier for fat cat lobbyists and corporate crooks.</i></p>
<p>Christ Oliver, you sound like a fucking cartoon character. You&#8217;re much smarter than this, so why do you do it? I mean, are you so afraid of losing readers like Jadegold?</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/03/culture-of-corruption-for-11305/#comment-11597</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More republican shit;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/11/03/abramoff/index_np.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/11/03/abramoff/index_np.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/11/03/abramoff/index_np.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

And no, Hedley, it is far from equal.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More republican shit;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/11/03/abramoff/index_np.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/11/03/abramoff/index_np.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/11/03/abramoff/index_np.html</a></p>
<p>And no, Hedley, it is far from equal.</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/03/culture-of-corruption-for-11305/#comment-11596</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hedley;

No.  A bigger pile of shit smells worse than a smaller one, and a freakin&#039; yellow shit storm is the stankiest of all.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hedley;</p>
<p>No.  A bigger pile of shit smells worse than a smaller one, and a freakin&#8217; yellow shit storm is the stankiest of all.</p>
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		<title>By: Hedley</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/03/culture-of-corruption-for-11305/#comment-11595</link>
		<dc:creator>Hedley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Semanticleo, I&#039;ll take your word for it. Don&#039;t want to know how you know that.

Both parties have produced an equal amount of shit over the years.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Semanticleo, I&#8217;ll take your word for it. Don&#8217;t want to know how you know that.</p>
<p>Both parties have produced an equal amount of shit over the years.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/03/culture-of-corruption-for-11305/#comment-11594</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Remember ABSCAM?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I do. As I recall, several people went to trial and were convicted. Hooray!

&lt;blockquote&gt;So it s not that there s corruption. You re just pissed about the Dollar amount. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

See, it helps if you read the part of the previous comment that I conveniently cut-and-paste. Hedley was trying to pretend that this is all about a nice Mr. DeLay just being helpful and helping nice Mr. Abramoff meet some new friends.

I thought I pointed that out.

Anyway, if you take Hedley&#039;s original description of an innocuous friendly get-together and remember to mention the quarter-million dollars, why you begin to see these events in a whole new light.

So, to answer your question, no, I&#039;m not pissed only about the dollar amount, and yes, it is that there&#039;s corruption.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Remember ABSCAM?</p></blockquote>
<p>I do. As I recall, several people went to trial and were convicted. Hooray!</p>
<blockquote><p>So it s not that there s corruption. You re just pissed about the Dollar amount. </p></blockquote>
<p>See, it helps if you read the part of the previous comment that I conveniently cut-and-paste. Hedley was trying to pretend that this is all about a nice Mr. DeLay just being helpful and helping nice Mr. Abramoff meet some new friends.</p>
<p>I thought I pointed that out.</p>
<p>Anyway, if you take Hedley&#8217;s original description of an innocuous friendly get-together and remember to mention the quarter-million dollars, why you begin to see these events in a whole new light.</p>
<p>So, to answer your question, no, I&#8217;m not pissed only about the dollar amount, and yes, it is that there&#8217;s corruption.</p>
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		<title>By: Hedley</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/03/culture-of-corruption-for-11305/#comment-11593</link>
		<dc:creator>Hedley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for trying to read my mind Quaker, but not surprisingly, you are wrong.

I agree with you that corruption is bad. It&#039;s bad, bad, bad.

Where we differ is that unlike you, I don&#039;t believe that either party has a monopoly on corruption but rather, everyone&#039;s shit stinks just the same.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for trying to read my mind Quaker, but not surprisingly, you are wrong.</p>
<p>I agree with you that corruption is bad. It&#8217;s bad, bad, bad.</p>
<p>Where we differ is that unlike you, I don&#8217;t believe that either party has a monopoly on corruption but rather, everyone&#8217;s shit stinks just the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/03/culture-of-corruption-for-11305/#comment-11592</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Thanks for trying to read my mind Quaker, but not surprisingly, you are wrong.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hunh? Mind-reading?

Maybe you can read mine and tell me when I thought I was doing that. You asked about ABSCAM. I answered and gave a rousing cheer. Then I moved on to address Mr. Farris.

While you&#039;re at it, maybe you can help me out with this one too:

&lt;blockquote&gt;unlike you, I don t believe that either party has a monopoly on corruption &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Maybe I&#039;m having one of those....uh, whaddya call &#039;em...uh, you know, where you can&#039;t remember stuff...uh....senior moments, that&#039;s it!

When did I say anybody had a monopoly on corruption?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Thanks for trying to read my mind Quaker, but not surprisingly, you are wrong.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hunh? Mind-reading?</p>
<p>Maybe you can read mine and tell me when I thought I was doing that. You asked about ABSCAM. I answered and gave a rousing cheer. Then I moved on to address Mr. Farris.</p>
<p>While you&#8217;re at it, maybe you can help me out with this one too:</p>
<blockquote><p>unlike you, I don t believe that either party has a monopoly on corruption </p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m having one of those&#8230;.uh, whaddya call &#8216;em&#8230;uh, you know, where you can&#8217;t remember stuff&#8230;uh&#8230;.senior moments, that&#8217;s it!</p>
<p>When did I say anybody had a monopoly on corruption?</p>
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		<title>By: Hedley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hedley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 21:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whose forgetful? Remember ABSCAM?
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/03/culture-of-corruption-for-11305/#comment-11590</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 21:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So it&#039;s not that there&#039;s corruption.  You&#039;re just pissed about the Dollar amount.  Or so I read Quaker...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it&#8217;s not that there&#8217;s corruption.  You&#8217;re just pissed about the Dollar amount.  Or so I read Quaker&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: zorro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/03/culture-of-corruption-for-11305/#comment-11589</link>
		<dc:creator>zorro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 21:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s OK BGA, you took care of that for us.  Thanks!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s OK BGA, you took care of that for us.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/03/culture-of-corruption-for-11305/#comment-11588</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 21:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A politician tried to help a lobbyist gain access to the federal government???? No!!!!!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You left out the part about the quarter-million dollars. Forgetful, aren&#039;t you?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A politician tried to help a lobbyist gain access to the federal government???? No!!!!!</p></blockquote>
<p>You left out the part about the quarter-million dollars. Forgetful, aren&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Hedley</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/03/culture-of-corruption-for-11305/#comment-11587</link>
		<dc:creator>Hedley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A politician tried to help a lobbyist gain access to the federal government???? No!!!!!

Tell me it isn&#039;t true.  I can&#039;t believe that ever happens.

I am stunned.  What is this world coming to.  Please bring back the Democrats and the good old days of simply buying access to the Lincoln Bedroom.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A politician tried to help a lobbyist gain access to the federal government???? No!!!!!</p>
<p>Tell me it isn&#8217;t true.  I can&#8217;t believe that ever happens.</p>
<p>I am stunned.  What is this world coming to.  Please bring back the Democrats and the good old days of simply buying access to the Lincoln Bedroom.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Gay Al</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/03/culture-of-corruption-for-11305/#comment-11586</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Gay Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cue conservative bringing up a democrat nutcase slashing some republican&#039;s tires (&quot;That&#039;s the real outrage!!!!&quot;)  in 5...4...3...
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