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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/02/how-sweet-it-is/#comment-11260</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Perhaps there s a good reason why the location is a secret. For the life of me, I can t imagine what it might be&amp;

Um, maybe so the prison is NOT ATTACKED BY ISLAMIC TERRORIST, YOU F*C*I*G MORONS!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That could explain why &lt;i&gt;the location&lt;/i&gt; is secret. It wouldn&#039;t explain why &lt;i&gt;the existence&lt;/i&gt; of such facilities is secret, or why who we are holding is secret, or why the techniques we use for interrogation are secret. or why we won&#039;t let the Red Cross or any other international organization verify any of our claims about the preceding.

So stick that up your asterisks.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Perhaps there s a good reason why the location is a secret. For the life of me, I can t imagine what it might be&#038;</p>
<p>Um, maybe so the prison is NOT ATTACKED BY ISLAMIC TERRORIST, YOU F*C*I*G MORONS!</p></blockquote>
<p>That could explain why <i>the location</i> is secret. It wouldn&#8217;t explain why <i>the existence</i> of such facilities is secret, or why who we are holding is secret, or why the techniques we use for interrogation are secret. or why we won&#8217;t let the Red Cross or any other international organization verify any of our claims about the preceding.</p>
<p>So stick that up your asterisks.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/02/how-sweet-it-is/#comment-11259</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 05:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not a Gulag at all, for several reasons.

To start with, they&#039;re not domestic or internal political prisoners.


The reason why I brought up releasing them is because they must be held, or released.

Perhaps there&#039;s a good reason why the location is a secret. For the life of me, I can&#039;t imagine what it might be...

Um, maybe so the prison is NOT ATTACKED BY ISLAMIC TERRORIST, YOU F*C*I*G MORONS!

Not so Reid won&#039;t find about it!

I heard about these &quot;secret&quot; camps months ago.

But, of course, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2005/050702-island-torture.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;there&#039;s more&lt;/a&gt; [Isn&#039;t there always?]:

What is known about CIA activities is that, since 2001, the agency has been transferring or &quot;rendering&quot; suspects to third countries for aggressive interrogation...

The rendition policy was initiated in 1998 by the Clinton White House after the American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by terrorists. The intent, says intelligence specialist Wesley Wark, was to bring Al Qaeda and Taliban suspects to the U.S. for prosecution.

Damn that Clinton!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a Gulag at all, for several reasons.</p>
<p>To start with, they&#8217;re not domestic or internal political prisoners.</p>
<p>The reason why I brought up releasing them is because they must be held, or released.</p>
<p>Perhaps there&#8217;s a good reason why the location is a secret. For the life of me, I can&#8217;t imagine what it might be&#8230;</p>
<p>Um, maybe so the prison is NOT ATTACKED BY ISLAMIC TERRORIST, YOU F*C*I*G MORONS!</p>
<p>Not so Reid won&#8217;t find about it!</p>
<p>I heard about these &#8220;secret&#8221; camps months ago.</p>
<p>But, of course, <a href="http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2005/050702-island-torture.htm" rel="nofollow">there&#8217;s more</a> [Isn't there always?]:</p>
<p>What is known about CIA activities is that, since 2001, the agency has been transferring or &#8220;rendering&#8221; suspects to third countries for aggressive interrogation&#8230;</p>
<p>The rendition policy was initiated in 1998 by the Clinton White House after the American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by terrorists. The intent, says intelligence specialist Wesley Wark, was to bring Al Qaeda and Taliban suspects to the U.S. for prosecution.</p>
<p>Damn that Clinton!</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/02/how-sweet-it-is/#comment-11258</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 23:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And we should release those prisoners why?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

TomY is right, Frank. Nobody said anything about releasing them.

Well, except for you.

But if we&#039;re sooo sure that these prisoners are dangerous and guilty, why do we need to hide them, and hide the fact that we&#039;re holding them, and hide the way we treat them?

I thought we were &quot;spreading freedom and democracy&quot; or some such.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And we should release those prisoners why?</p></blockquote>
<p>TomY is right, Frank. Nobody said anything about releasing them.</p>
<p>Well, except for you.</p>
<p>But if we&#8217;re sooo sure that these prisoners are dangerous and guilty, why do we need to hide them, and hide the fact that we&#8217;re holding them, and hide the way we treat them?</p>
<p>I thought we were &#8220;spreading freedom and democracy&#8221; or some such.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/02/how-sweet-it-is/#comment-11257</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 23:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Incidentally, just in case anybody was wondering, the Soviet Gulag was not in eastern Europe. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

OK, OK, have it your way. It&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; a gulag, it&#039;s a gulag-related-program-activity.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Incidentally, just in case anybody was wondering, the Soviet Gulag was not in eastern Europe. </p></blockquote>
<p>OK, OK, have it your way. It&#8217;s <i>not</i> a gulag, it&#8217;s a gulag-related-program-activity.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/02/how-sweet-it-is/#comment-11256</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 22:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I see, &lt;i&gt;those&lt;/i&gt; gulags... And we should release those prisoners why?

Incidentally, just in case anybody was wondering, the Soviet Gulag was not in eastern Europe.

I mean, in case.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I see, <i>those</i> gulags&#8230; And we should release those prisoners why?</p>
<p>Incidentally, just in case anybody was wondering, the Soviet Gulag was not in eastern Europe.</p>
<p>I mean, in case.</p>
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		<title>By: TomY</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 22:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not about releasing them, you brave strawman fighter! It&#039;s about Congressional oversight, torture, not breaking the law, upholding America&#039;s honor and values instead of squandering them out of conservative cowardice, etc.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not about releasing them, you brave strawman fighter! It&#8217;s about Congressional oversight, torture, not breaking the law, upholding America&#8217;s honor and values instead of squandering them out of conservative cowardice, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: TomY</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/02/how-sweet-it-is/#comment-11254</link>
		<dc:creator>TomY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 22:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them. - George Orwell
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them. &#8211; George Orwell</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/02/how-sweet-it-is/#comment-11253</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Begonia: that clause was not inserted in the Declaration for casual use by the Democrats...

TomY: And which &quot;gulag&quot; might that be? Guantanamo -- where we keep the terrorists who promise that when released, they will re - arm and then kill American soldiers?

And you want them released why?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Begonia: that clause was not inserted in the Declaration for casual use by the Democrats&#8230;</p>
<p>TomY: And which &#8220;gulag&#8221; might that be? Guantanamo &#8212; where we keep the terrorists who promise that when released, they will re &#8211; arm and then kill American soldiers?</p>
<p>And you want them released why?</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/02/how-sweet-it-is/#comment-11252</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which gulag?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/01/AR2005110101644.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This one:&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;The CIA has been hiding and interrogating some of its most important al Qaeda captives at a Soviet-era compound in Eastern Europe, according to U.S. and foreign officials familiar with the arrangement.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

See? You miss some things if you limit your reading to right wing blogs.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which gulag?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/01/AR2005110101644.html" rel="nofollow">This one:</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The CIA has been hiding and interrogating some of its most important al Qaeda captives at a Soviet-era compound in Eastern Europe, according to U.S. and foreign officials familiar with the arrangement.</p></blockquote>
<p>See? You miss some things if you limit your reading to right wing blogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/02/how-sweet-it-is/#comment-11251</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 19:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reid&#039;s invocation of Rule 21 is &quot;unprecedented&quot;? A &quot;personal affront&quot;?

Capetbagger has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/5715.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a nice take:&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#039;s more than a little amusing to hear congressional Republicans worrying about such niceties. Which party likes to hold open five-minute votes indefinitely until the get the results they want? Which party prevents the minority from offering amendments (.pdf) to legislation? Which party forbids the minority from participating in conference committees? Which party shuts down committee hearings went they start to become politically inconvenient? Which party decided that the Senate leader of one party could campaign against the Senate leader of the other party for the first time in American political history?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There are links to back up the specifics over on the Carpetbagger site.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reid&#8217;s invocation of Rule 21 is &#8220;unprecedented&#8221;? A &#8220;personal affront&#8221;?</p>
<p>Capetbagger has <a href="http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/5715.html" rel="nofollow">a nice take:</a></p>
<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s more than a little amusing to hear congressional Republicans worrying about such niceties. Which party likes to hold open five-minute votes indefinitely until the get the results they want? Which party prevents the minority from offering amendments (.pdf) to legislation? Which party forbids the minority from participating in conference committees? Which party shuts down committee hearings went they start to become politically inconvenient? Which party decided that the Senate leader of one party could campaign against the Senate leader of the other party for the first time in American political history?</p></blockquote>
<p>There are links to back up the specifics over on the Carpetbagger site.</p>
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		<title>By: buma</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/02/how-sweet-it-is/#comment-11250</link>
		<dc:creator>buma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 18:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reid is proving he is way better than his predecessor. All the Republicans had to do was make good on their promise to investigate. You don&#039;t actually suppose that promise was complete elephant sheeeit, do you?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reid is proving he is way better than his predecessor. All the Republicans had to do was make good on their promise to investigate. You don&#8217;t actually suppose that promise was complete elephant sheeeit, do you?</p>
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		<title>By: TomY</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/02/how-sweet-it-is/#comment-11249</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 18:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, its one thing for people to compare opponents to Nazis; that happens every day on the internets. But the Bush Administration has literally set up a gulag in our name. Can we impeach this asshole now?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, its one thing for people to compare opponents to Nazis; that happens every day on the internets. But the Bush Administration has literally set up a gulag in our name. Can we impeach this asshole now?</p>
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		<title>By: begoniabuzzkill</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/02/how-sweet-it-is/#comment-11248</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 18:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okay.................the loopholes around a corrupt/ball-less congress?

deeply rooted in the Declaration of Independence.......

 Whenever any form of government becomes destructive, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it and to institute new government.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..the loopholes around a corrupt/ball-less congress?</p>
<p>deeply rooted in the Declaration of Independence&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p> Whenever any form of government becomes destructive, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it and to institute new government.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/02/how-sweet-it-is/#comment-11247</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 18:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elrod does a**hole (no comparison to Hitler).

Sadie: very cute. IMHO. Leo was comparing the &quot;new, improved&quot; Democrats favorably to the Fascist that marched on Rome.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elrod does a**hole (no comparison to Hitler).</p>
<p>Sadie: very cute. IMHO. Leo was comparing the &#8220;new, improved&#8221; Democrats favorably to the Fascist that marched on Rome.</p>
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		<title>By: elrod</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 16:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Frank goes Godwin. I guess that means he lost.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Frank goes Godwin. I guess that means he lost.</p>
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		<title>By: TomY</title>
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		<dc:creator>TomY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 15:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christ do you cons ever sound desperate. I would be happy if it weren&#039;t for the fact that the U.S. is run by incomeptent authoritarians, and that we were operating gucking gulags. How can anyone sleep at night with these criminals in charge. Bush should be impeached for this evil, lawless dishonor he&#039;s brought on the country.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christ do you cons ever sound desperate. I would be happy if it weren&#8217;t for the fact that the U.S. is run by incomeptent authoritarians, and that we were operating gucking gulags. How can anyone sleep at night with these criminals in charge. Bush should be impeached for this evil, lawless dishonor he&#8217;s brought on the country.</p>
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		<title>By: mr.curmudgeon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/02/how-sweet-it-is/#comment-11244</link>
		<dc:creator>mr.curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 15:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I hope that comforts you when the Democrats lose seats in 2006, and,once again, a Republican takes the White House in 2008.&lt;/i&gt;

You working for Diebold now? Or are you just so full of shit that I might smell you through the &quot;internets&quot;?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I hope that comforts you when the Democrats lose seats in 2006, and,once again, a Republican takes the White House in 2008.</i></p>
<p>You working for Diebold now? Or are you just so full of shit that I might smell you through the &#8220;internets&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: TomY</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/02/how-sweet-it-is/#comment-11243</link>
		<dc:creator>TomY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 15:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gucking gulags. That&#039;s right. I stand by it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gucking gulags. That&#8217;s right. I stand by it.</p>
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		<title>By: TomY</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/11/02/how-sweet-it-is/#comment-11242</link>
		<dc:creator>TomY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 15:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Durbin was right: the U.S. is running a gulag. What dishonor the Republicans have brought on our nation. Thank god the Democrats haven&#039;t let the war on terrorism erode their basic American decency.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Durbin was right: the U.S. is running a gulag. What dishonor the Republicans have brought on our nation. Thank god the Democrats haven&#8217;t let the war on terrorism erode their basic American decency.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 14:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Reid pulls off an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adolfhitler.ws/lib/nsdap/Rohm.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ernst Rohm&lt;/a&gt; -  like stunt, and you call the Republicans &quot;Re - &lt;i&gt;thug&lt;/i&gt; - licans&quot;? What&#039;s next, breaking all the windows in Georgetown?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Reid pulls off an <a href="http://www.adolfhitler.ws/lib/nsdap/Rohm.html" rel="nofollow">Ernst Rohm</a> &#8211;  like stunt, and you call the Republicans &#8220;Re &#8211; <i>thug</i> &#8211; licans&#8221;? What&#8217;s next, breaking all the windows in Georgetown?</p>
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