If it is mandatory, will that mean absolutely no one is exempt?

Even Jehovah’s Witnesses and Christian Scientists?

Is it the only mandatory vaccine?

Aren’t the other vaccines mandatory because they are for contagious diseases?

So, is the theory behind this vaccine, the old tried – and – true “They’re gonna do it have sex), anyway!”?

So, isn’t it true that it is an incentive for teens to have sex?

Is it 100% effective?

Finally, how long has it been around? Is it going to turn out like Thalidomide or something?

“This new appointment sends a disturbing message that the problems surrounding rampant sexual behavior can be solved with a false promise and a piece of latex. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is already the world’s largest promoter of homosexuality and ‘safe-sex’ programs, and now the president has appointed someone whose positions indicate that the organization will continue dishing out more of the same.”

how about responding to my points?

Typical for TomY…distort, call some names, and leave instead of debating the issues.

Hehe!

I ll never understand the mindsets of conservatives who come to liberal websites

You’d prefer a liberal echo chamber I suppose?

debunk liberalism through mockery

What? You demonstrably misstate my original question…then call me a “troll” and “retarded.” I responded that your behavior was immature, provided evidence of your errors, and you claim I’m mocking you. Riiiiight.

Now that you’ve unsuccessfully tried to change the topic, how about responding to my points?

“You deal in insults rather than issues.”

Cry me a river, then build a bridge over that river and live under it. I’ll never understand the mindsets of conservatives who come to liberal websites under the belief that they will debunk liberalism through mockery and recitation of right wing talking points, and then cry for mommy when said liberals don’t knuckle under and praise you for how reasonable you cons are.

JWG, you, Scratch, Frank D, and so many others who troll on this site voluntarily carry water for theocrats and authoritarians (usually while calling yourselves libertarian, no less). You already made a joke of yourself. Liberals are just filling in the punch line on the pathetic mad-lib that you’ve made of your political philosophy.

And Scratch, make no mistake: you are a worse troll-prostitute…

Just for fun, can you please define that term before I put you on my ignore list (mostly reserved for people who deal in insults rather than issues)?

But the real question is: why do you trolls so quickly run to prostitute yourself on behalf of these theocons?

You didn’t answer my question from before: do you support making this vaccine mandatory for students? That’s the issue. I haven’t seen anything to suggest that the panel will be — or indeed is even charged with — deciding who can take it voluntarily.

My sense is that few if any vaccines should be mandatory. I would bet that many, many people who have no particular allegience to whatever religious entities are involved feel the same way.

That’s my opinion in a nutshell. If you consider that trolling or prostitution then you don’t have a very open mind.

http://www.family.org/cforum/fnif/news/a0038209.cfm

Of course, Focus on the Family is still against prophylactics of all kinds, and has many articles attacking the “safe sex myth.” Why would they have their own guy promoting a prophylactic vaccine for the first time, something they’re so clearly against? I think it’s because they want to get quotes out there before he votes against the vaccine, so that later they can claim he’s fair and balanced, and that his decision was based on “sound science” and not just because he’s an unreconstructed member of the Dobson cult. He’s sort of a Joe Lieberman/Judy Miller human trojan horse for these theocons.

But by all means, trolls, keep whoring for these psychos!

Why don’t the theocons come out and simply say they oppose a life saving vaccine? It’s because, as with the entire conservative agenda, they know it’d be wildy unpopular, so they dress it up in the language of progressive liberalism. It’s the same reason we get “healthy forest” and “clear skies” initiatives instead of the “Rape the earth to pay back campaign contributors initiative,” and the “Patriot Act” doesn’t get called the “Detain an American citizen without charges indefinitely Act.” Are you actually retarded, JWG?

Are you actually retarded, JWG?

No, but you act like you are 12 years old. If you’re older than that, you should be embarrassed.

as with the entire conservative agenda, they know it d be wildy unpopular

It’s a massive conspiracy.

Do you realize you sound exactly like the creationists who argue that the “real” agenda behind teaching evolution is to promote atheism? Even though biologists “claim” they are just searching for the truth, the creationists know the real agenda.

Even though conservative groups “claim” they “welcome the vaccine as an important public health tool,” TomY knows their real agenda (but can’t point out any actual…you know…evidence to support what he knows).

Their goal is to curb the use of the vaccine as much as possible, so as to prevent incentivizing sex by making it safer.

If I had to find common ground with you, which I usually try to do, I would say that the evidence suggests that Dr. Finger may wish to block attempts to make the vaccine madatory for students. The thing that you state as fact that he intends to do is more akin to taking condoms off the market, as opposed to just taking them out of the school clininc.

You lost me on the last point…did Dr. Finger help edit the article? Did he make that quote during this interview?

“So as near as I can tell your opinion is completely unfounded.”
It’s founded on the fact that he served on as a medical analyst for Dobson’s Focus on the Family. Neither Finger nor Zass are scientists, they are ideologues who work on behalf of medieval zealots.

Finger’s quoted in this article warning of the dangers of cervical cancer.
http://everythingchristian.org/news/psalms_n5.ihtml?nid=2652&catid=2
But is his quote used to marshall support for a vaccine to wipe out the disease? Of course not! It’s used to explain that the only safe sex is sex within marriage. This is why they oppose the vaccine: because they believe it will encourage sinful sexual behavior. Cancer deaths are something the licentious and wanton bring upon themselves. The godly need no vaccination.

In fact, you asserted that unless a Bush administration official explicitly stated an opposition to the vaccine on religious grounds, then they could not oppose it on religious grounds.

Here’s my exact quote:

Please provide one quote from anyone in the Bush administration who opposes the HPV vaccine.

TomY…MSU again.

The godly need no vaccination.

Are you saying that abstinance does not prevent HPV?

I think that this vaccine should become mandatory.

What is you criterian for deciding when the government may intrude upon your health decisions?

And Scratch, make no mistake: you are a worse troll-prostitute hybrid than Shrek crossed with Michele Malkin.

But Frank D is still worse.

why do you trolls so quickly run to prostitute yourself on behalf of these theocons?

Because the article said one thing:

Conservative groups say they welcome the vaccine as an important public health tool but oppose making it mandatory.

while you use it to claim the opposite.

MSU.

Why would they have their own guy promoting a prophylactic vaccine for the first time, something they re so clearly against? I think it s because they want to get quotes out there before he votes against the vaccine, so that later they can claim he s fair and balanced…

He’s not “their guy.”

You have a reasonable opinion…that the vaccine should be mandatory (I saw your answer after I re-posted the question.) I fail to see why you have to couch your position in unfounded statements about what you know people are going to do, who they are going to do it for, and (apparently) who is paying their salary. You have your opinions and they have theirs.

Would you make it a legal requirement that all students should wear condoms? Would you make it mandatory for all school girls to be on the pill? These two actions, strictly in scientific terms, would have many benefits. “Mandatory” is a big word, regardless of how sensible the underlying issue may be.