Might want to think about checking for a life raft cuz yer ship is sinking fast.

What exactly does that mean to you, Zappa?

No, really, I’m genuinely interested in what you mean.

I want to know if it’s more than Oliver’s fantasy world of a liberal dictatorship, where people he disagrees with are judged to be guilty without benefit of a trial, or did you have something more specific in mind.

Apparently for Rove and Libby, lying WAS their job.

Apparently? In case you hadn’t noticed, Rove wasn’t charged with anything.

And Libby hasn’t been tried yet. I don’t recall Fitzgerald making an allegation that lying was his job.

Just another liberal vigilante, tightening up the noose. No trials necessary, nope, just string ‘em up and off with their heads.

Cisneros deserved what he got, but what he lied about had nothing to do with his job. Apparently for Rove and Libby, lying WAS their job.

Just a little bit different, eh?

Might want to think about checking for a life raft cuz yer ship is sinking fast. You have bought into this Admin so solidly – your constant defense and finger pointing does not take away that this is all happening now. Brought to you by the guy who promised to make the office more honest and to follow the law – what were those campaign promises again?
The fact is your guys only care about the smallest portion of the people – the richest. They don’t care about you except around election time or to try and squeeze 100 bucks out of you once a year. Suckers.

Point is (obviously) that there weren t even indictments in the examples of the alleged lies that you mentioned, yet here you are acting as though the guilt of those in question is a proven fact.

God, you people are tiring.

The point is to counter Oliver’s partisan myopia on political corruption.

So, if you insist on a one-for-one comparison, here’s just one item (from Wikipedia:

In March, 1995 U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno secured the appointment of an Independent Counsel to investigate allegations that Cisneros had lied to FBI investigators during background checks prior to being named Secretary of HUD….The investigation continued for three and a half years. In December, 1997, he was indicted on 18 counts of conspiracy, giving false statements and obstruction of Justice….In September, 1999, Cisneros negotiated a plea agreement with the under which he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor count of lying to the FBI and was fined $10,000. He did not receive jail time or probation. He was pardoned by President Bill Clinton in January 2001.

Well, there you have it, an indictment, a guilty plea, and a pardon. We even now?

My interest in therapy is a wee bit more than amateur.

Point is (obviously) that there weren’t even indictments in the examples of the alleged lies that you mentioned, yet here you are acting as though the guilt of those in question is a proven fact. You do believe in justice don’t you, Tuco? For people other than Republicans, I mean?

Did any of these “lies” result in criminal indictments, prosecutions and convictions?

If not, then, to follow current Republican logic, they did not happen. The alleged liars are 100% innocent until proven guilty by due process of law.

Did any of these  lies result in criminal indictments, prosecutions and convictions?

I can’t even begin to fathom what kind of argument you’re trying to make with that whopper.

First of all, the only thing that exists in the Libby case is an indictment. There’s been no prosecution or conviction. Relax and let the process play out. You believe in justice, don’t you? Or would you like the kind of star chamber justice for Republicans that Oliver espouses?

Finally, I suppose all those Presidential lies are less important than convicting a politician of the opposite party for perjury?

All I know is that, during the Middle Ages especially, it was often important in keeping the attendees from being overcome from the fumes arising from unwashed silk and velvet mixed with body grease, enveloped in the acrid atmosphere of heat and humidty.

Many times it was exacerbated by liberal doses of cheap perfume, which hardly served to mask the odor, but was enhancing instead.

Whether it is scat or body odor, you get rid of it by washing it out, not masking it with perfumey hyperbole.

If you prefer I can switch between offensive odor sources from time to time. Don’t want you getting nauseous. Nor do I want you to attempt amateur psychiatry, a quality which you loathe in others.

Dredging the historical record for examples of democratic foolishness does not take the fetid odor of Republican disregard for the rule of law and turn it into the fragrance of gardenias.

Never said it did, Semanticleo. I respond mostly to Oliver, rather than to the liberal posters here, because they’re smarter than him most of the time.

But I’m surprised to see you fall into the trap. Check Jay C’s comment for analysis. Oliver makes stupid remarks, in effect, “only Republicans are corrupt” and “the only time bad things happen is when Republicans are in power.”

I’m just pointing out how ridiculous that is.

It’s still donkey dropping embedded in elephantine dumps.

And, by the way, you’re entitled, as is everyone who posts here, to be as tasteless and slanderous as you want to be. I’m entitled to point it out

‘Diamond’ even drags his mother into this tasteless slander that Reagn (”Raygun” – like, that’s so mature) had alzheimer’s while he was in the Whie House, ands the additional slander that he was a “psycho.”
Which makes him a combination neurologist / psychiatri in one. Whatta guy.

Semanticleo, in his usual, flamboyant reminds us of the “fetid odor of Republican disregard for the rule of law,” as if none of that can found across the aisle.

Like a carnival barker spraying the crowd with his horsehit; there you go again.

Dredging up some modicum of rationale for three administrations piled to the rafters with liars and obstructionists does not level the playing field with democrats, my furry conservative friend.

While you’re at it, why don’t you compare the head cold you had last year to the 1918 Flu epidemic?

Or, how about the kid who got nabbed shoplifting a Hershey bar being no no differeent from John Gotti?

Dredging the historical record for examples of democratic foolishness does not take the fetid odor of Republican disregard for the rule of law and turn it into the fragrance of gardenias. You are rather transparent in your atttempts to do so, but what else can you say? You and yours probably still think Nixon was railroaded. I almost feel sorry for you. Almost.

–President Kennedy “lied to the nation about U.S. involvement in the fatal 1961 Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba, telling a press conference: ‘I can assure you that the United States has no intention of using force to overthrow the Castro regime.’”

–Presidents Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon “all lied to the nation about what was happening in Vietnam. Johnson and Nixon both lied when they claimed only military targets were bombed in the war.

–His [President Clinton's] administration could not produce convincing evidence that the plant was anything but what the Sudanese government said it was — a plant that produced medicines.”