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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/10/18/too-funny/#comment-9918</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reporters who are not editorialists in disguise, and certainly not columnists. I very often read local newspapers (online) from around the country and the world, and they don&#039;t insert their opinion into a story.

If I&#039;m reading Frank Rich or Maureen Dowd, or Robert Novack, or George Will, I know what to expect.

But when the Associated Press starts spinning stories by piling up damning adjectives -- the Associated Press! -- I start to worry.


And Leo: To say that &quot;objectivity is a relative term&quot; is contradictory. To say it is impossible, when it was evident for all of my lifetime until the early Seventies (I was 24 by then), is ridiculous.

Of course it&#039;s possible -- it&#039;s not just possible -- it&#039;s necessary!.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reporters who are not editorialists in disguise, and certainly not columnists. I very often read local newspapers (online) from around the country and the world, and they don&#8217;t insert their opinion into a story.</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m reading Frank Rich or Maureen Dowd, or Robert Novack, or George Will, I know what to expect.</p>
<p>But when the Associated Press starts spinning stories by piling up damning adjectives &#8212; the Associated Press! &#8212; I start to worry.</p>
<p>And Leo: To say that &#8220;objectivity is a relative term&#8221; is contradictory. To say it is impossible, when it was evident for all of my lifetime until the early Seventies (I was 24 by then), is ridiculous.</p>
<p>Of course it&#8217;s possible &#8212; it&#8217;s not just possible &#8212; it&#8217;s necessary!.</p>
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		<title>By: buma</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/10/18/too-funny/#comment-9917</link>
		<dc:creator>buma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I&#039;ll bite. Name a reporter who reports the news objectively, Frank. You know, a card-carrying one.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I&#8217;ll bite. Name a reporter who reports the news objectively, Frank. You know, a card-carrying one.</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/10/18/too-funny/#comment-9916</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Objectivity is a relative tierm; impossible in the absolute when humans involved.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Objectivity is a relative tierm; impossible in the absolute when humans involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/10/18/too-funny/#comment-9915</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leo: Not all journalists are from the &quot;speak truth to power&quot; schhol of journalism, as serendipitously founded by Woodward and Bernstein (Thank God!).

Some journalists are just card - carrying reporters; i.e, they report the news. It takes real integrity to keep your ideology to yourself, and report the news objectively, which is fast becoming a lost art.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leo: Not all journalists are from the &#8220;speak truth to power&#8221; schhol of journalism, as serendipitously founded by Woodward and Bernstein (Thank God!).</p>
<p>Some journalists are just card &#8211; carrying reporters; i.e, they report the news. It takes real integrity to keep your ideology to yourself, and report the news objectively, which is fast becoming a lost art.</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/10/18/too-funny/#comment-9914</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 05:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, they do tend to follow the critical mass.  But that is quite different from a disposition towards iconoclasm  They  are mainstream, and such, have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo.  Fortunately, a few with genuine job integrity persist through the periods where their collegues languish in their comfortable lives, sated and fat.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, they do tend to follow the critical mass.  But that is quite different from a disposition towards iconoclasm  They  are mainstream, and such, have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo.  Fortunately, a few with genuine job integrity persist through the periods where their collegues languish in their comfortable lives, sated and fat.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/10/18/too-funny/#comment-9913</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 05:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leo: From the post:

&lt;i&gt;With so many forces at play, it is easy to lose perspective and context while plowing through the tons of information on this case&lt;/i&gt;

So much for the bogus &quot;press standing by mute&quot; theory...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leo: From the post:</p>
<p><i>With so many forces at play, it is easy to lose perspective and context while plowing through the tons of information on this case</i></p>
<p>So much for the bogus &#8220;press standing by mute&#8221; theory&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wilbur</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/10/18/too-funny/#comment-9912</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 04:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Are you a Nazi? Truth, please.&lt;/i&gt;

Interesting that Frank would think that asking someone if he works for RNC is somehow similar to asking someone if he&#039;s an Nazi.  Freudian slip? Ja wohl!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Are you a Nazi? Truth, please.</i></p>
<p>Interesting that Frank would think that asking someone if he works for RNC is somehow similar to asking someone if he&#8217;s an Nazi.  Freudian slip? Ja wohl!</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/10/18/too-funny/#comment-9911</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 04:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wilbur: Actually, it&#039;s interesting that &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; would &quot;think that asking someone if he works for RNC is somehow similar to asking someone if he s a Nazi.&quot;

Because they&#039;re not similar, and I had no idea they were.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wilbur: Actually, it&#8217;s interesting that <i>you</i> would &#8220;think that asking someone if he works for RNC is somehow similar to asking someone if he s a Nazi.&#8221;</p>
<p>Because they&#8217;re not similar, and I had no idea they were.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 03:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JK: No, I don&#039;t.

Are you a Nazi? Truth, please.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JK: No, I don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Are you a Nazi? Truth, please.</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/10/18/too-funny/#comment-9909</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say it&#039;s crazy (the idea that Bush could pull a giant Nixon boner and fire the prosecutor) but this former CIA guy says it&#039;s probable.


ttp://noquarter.typepad.com/
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say it&#8217;s crazy (the idea that Bush could pull a giant Nixon boner and fire the prosecutor) but this former CIA guy says it&#8217;s probable.</p>
<p>ttp://noquarter.typepad.com/</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/10/18/too-funny/#comment-9908</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry

&lt;a href=&quot;http://noquarter.typepad.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://noquarter.typepad.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://noquarter.typepad.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry</p>
<p><a href="http://noquarter.typepad.com/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://noquarter.typepad.com/" rel="nofollow">http://noquarter.typepad.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/10/18/too-funny/#comment-9907</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>try again.

ttp://noquarter.typepad.com/
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>try again.</p>
<p>ttp://noquarter.typepad.com/</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 01:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank. I have a serious question.

Do you work for the RNC? Truth, please.

JK
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank. I have a serious question.</p>
<p>Do you work for the RNC? Truth, please.</p>
<p>JK</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>danelectro: She may have trouble getting the black vote -- the liberal machine is too firmly entrenched -- but once she&#039;s in, she could be a healer.

I happen to think she&#039;s squeaky clean in this Plame affair.  Her name hasn&#039;t come up -- yet. I hate to sound conspiratorial, but that might change if she were to announce too soon.

Which might be why she&#039;s waiting to announce - besides which she&#039;s not going to leave her job too early -- she&#039;s not the type.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>danelectro: She may have trouble getting the black vote &#8212; the liberal machine is too firmly entrenched &#8212; but once she&#8217;s in, she could be a healer.</p>
<p>I happen to think she&#8217;s squeaky clean in this Plame affair.  Her name hasn&#8217;t come up &#8212; yet. I hate to sound conspiratorial, but that might change if she were to announce too soon.</p>
<p>Which might be why she&#8217;s waiting to announce &#8211; besides which she&#8217;s not going to leave her job too early &#8212; she&#8217;s not the type.</p>
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		<title>By: danelectro</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 16:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but frank_d, i think condi as a real political force would be a great thing the the country.  forcing racists out of the gop, and bringing in more african-americans would be a positive re-alignment, regardless of which party ends up winning at the ballot box.

(personally i think condi is too caught up in this to be a viable candidate. but if her role turns out to be minor i would be willing to overlook it)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but frank_d, i think condi as a real political force would be a great thing the the country.  forcing racists out of the gop, and bringing in more african-americans would be a positive re-alignment, regardless of which party ends up winning at the ballot box.</p>
<p>(personally i think condi is too caught up in this to be a viable candidate. but if her role turns out to be minor i would be willing to overlook it)</p>
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		<title>By: BabyHazel</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/10/18/too-funny/#comment-9903</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this one too...

&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/10/02/124446.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/10/02/124446.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/10/02/124446.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this one too&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/10/02/124446.php" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/10/02/124446.php" rel="nofollow">http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/10/02/124446.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/10/18/too-funny/#comment-9902</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, crazy.

But there is crazy, and there is insane.

Rat Fucking performed by Nixon&#039;s USC mafia (Ron Ziegler et al)  on political opponents was sophomoric compared to this crew.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, crazy.</p>
<p>But there is crazy, and there is insane.</p>
<p>Rat Fucking performed by Nixon&#8217;s USC mafia (Ron Ziegler et al)  on political opponents was sophomoric compared to this crew.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right the first time...

That&#039;s plain crazy.

But &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scifi.com/kolchak/overview/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Night Stalker&lt;/a&gt; is looking for writers...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right the first time&#8230;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s plain crazy.</p>
<p>But <a href="http://www.scifi.com/kolchak/overview/" rel="nofollow">Night Stalker</a> is looking for writers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: buma</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/10/18/too-funny/#comment-9900</link>
		<dc:creator>buma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheney&#039;s legal problems couldn&#039;t happen to a more deserving fellow. The myth of Republican competence is a house of cads.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheney&#8217;s legal problems couldn&#8217;t happen to a more deserving fellow. The myth of Republican competence is a house of cads.</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/10/18/too-funny/#comment-9899</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Semanticleo Says:
October 18th, 2005 at 12:45 am

Could this whole thing be a CIA operation to pay back Cheney for all his arm twisting at the agency? I mean, as long as there is gonna be speculation about this rumor and that. It all sounds too fishy to me. Could be another planted story like the one Rather fell for. Could be a plan to make Cheney look like he s gonna do a perp walk; then  Surprise!!!! See Cheney didn t do nothin !

The bad ol  liberal media set him up for a fall, but it didn t happen. Did it?

Then Rove and Libby garner some sympathy on the coattails of Cheney, and Bush rebounds in the polls.

Nah! That s plain crazy. Or&amp; &amp; &amp; .?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Semanticleo Says:<br />
October 18th, 2005 at 12:45 am</p>
<p>Could this whole thing be a CIA operation to pay back Cheney for all his arm twisting at the agency? I mean, as long as there is gonna be speculation about this rumor and that. It all sounds too fishy to me. Could be another planted story like the one Rather fell for. Could be a plan to make Cheney look like he s gonna do a perp walk; then  Surprise!!!! See Cheney didn t do nothin !</p>
<p>The bad ol  liberal media set him up for a fall, but it didn t happen. Did it?</p>
<p>Then Rove and Libby garner some sympathy on the coattails of Cheney, and Bush rebounds in the polls.</p>
<p>Nah! That s plain crazy. Or&#038; &#038; &#038; .?</p>
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