Some technical violation may be uncovered and that may lead to indictments and Democrats will have won a major political victory. Thats what it is now and has been about all along.

So the CIA referred a complaint to the Ashcroft Justice Department which in turn handed the complaint to a Republican special prosecutor appointed by the White House. This special prosecutor has conducted a thorough and (in the words of the President) dignified investigation over many months.

But the whole thing all along was about the Democrats winning a political victory.

And this makes no sense to me because I can’t understand the simple, obvious meaning of your words, right?

“Maybe  that s what it s been about all along has some other meaning I don t get. ”

I think you nailed it.

Dugger

Who said he was  trying to win a vicory for Dems?

Maybe nobody. Maybe “that’s what it’s been about all along” has some other meaning I don’t get.

Whoops. ”

Whoops, my behind! Who said he was ‘trying’ to win a vicory for Dems? And hopefully, you will remember the track record of special prosecutors going after memnbers of their own party.

Dugger

As dim as my opinion is of Rove and Libby, I, for one, never would have dreamed that they would stoop so low as to out an undercover agent for cheap shot at a political opponent.

Some technical violation may be uncovered and that may lead to indictments and Democrats will have won a major political victory. Thats what it is now and has been about all along.

A Bush-appointed Republican special prosecutor is trying to win a political victory for Democrats?

Whoops.

Your pilot analogy is reasonable butit still suggests no real harm done – which was my point. Evreybody walked away. Your pilot engaged in active, overt immediatley dangerous illegal behavior which risked the lives of lots of passengers. None of that is the case with Plame. None of it. In fact no one has identified anything of immediate or even near term significant negative impact. A paper cover company may have had to be erased, but she was no longer in the field. Hadn’t been for a while. Unlike the Agee deal, no one has been murdered and unlike Agee, here maybe one and one only, Wash DC based CIA person was outed. So, how, if at all, was it near term dangerous like your pilot analogy? And I’m not sure what the actual long term danger is if it is proven to be a crime. That its a bad thing to out CIA agents. Yes, but Agee already taught those who pay attention that.

Some technical violation may be uncovered and that may lead to indictments and Democrats will have won a major political victory. Thats what it is now and has been about all along. I’ll believe otherwise when you show me a raft statements from leftie posters here and Democrats in general, before Plame, expressing concern about the well being and cover of CIA agents. It wasn’t on the their radar scopes until it became a way to get Bush.

Dugger

That’s what Dugger would say if the pilot was a Republican. If the pilot was a Democrat Dugger would be all over him like shit on a shingle.

What a tool.

Was there any harm done to U.S. security interests? None of the so-called reporters working this story have remembered to ask.

The absence of harm wouldn’t excuse recklessness in revealing the identity of a CIA agent and it wouldn’t justify the covert White House operation to “get” a political detractor. But it is a relevant part of the story. No one seems to have made a solid case either way.

To try and make  troops another  victimized , lobotomized Democrat constituency will never work.

Nice.

Which Democratic constituencies would you characterize as “lobotomized”?

You make my point for me. Is this the best ‘hurt’ you cam come up with?

“At the very least they have caused a boatload of taxpayer money to be spent on the investigations of their misdeeds and subsequent coverups. ‘

Your ‘they’ , I assume the alleged leakers, didn’t cause this. Somebody decided to do it. It needn’t have been done at all. The investigations, if need at all, could have ben done within the current structure. Of course, Democrats would have compalined so due to political presure,t here was a special prosecutor. But thats the sytem overreacting.

Dugger

frame,

Most troops had body armor. Troops have always lacked something. They lacked under Johnson, Carter, and Clinton just as much under Bush etc. Progressives were only heard from when they thought the shortage could be used to get Bush. Troops also care about morale and misson accomplishment and being supported on those items. They care about esprit de corp and are gung ho. You don’t need to like or accept that , but thats the way good troops are. To try and make ‘troops’ another ‘victimized’ , lobotomized Democrat constituency will never work.

Dugger

Dugger

Truth be told, though, I wanted Rove and Libby to resign even before all this crap came to light.

That’s more like it!

Just remember the expression plea bargain, and remember how much pressure is going to be added to Fitzgerald should the indictments include Cheney. More than likely, as is the case with white-collar criminals routinely, is they get a few months at most. You see the reason your white-collar criminal is so amped about fighting the war on crime, is he wants to feel safe from the street criminals so he can ply his trade sans any competition.

Um, maybe because lying and obstructing justice about your official taxpayer-paid duties is a bit more serious than the best case the vwrc could drum up against Clinton?

Truth be told, though, I wanted Rove and Libby to resign even before all this crap came to light.

At the very least they have caused a boatload of taxpayer money to be spent on the investigations of their misdeeds and subsequent coverups.

Democrats and Kerry ran on supporting the troops. Bush, however, convinced conservatives such as yourself that only Republicans cared for the troops. And so Kerryt lost by a slim margin. And now where are we? The same problems that were brought up in the 2004 campaign are still with us. Bush has done nothing to support the troops and the situation seems to have gotten worse with soldiers getting bills for their medical care and the Pentagon reneging on its promise of bonuses. All I have to say to you is this: Sucker. Too bad our soliders are paying the price for your gullibility.