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	<title>Comments on: Culture of Corruption: Ehrlich&#8217;s Abramoff Connection</title>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/26/culture-of-corruption-ehrlichs-abramoff-connection/#comment-7524</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 01:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an afterthought, let me clear something up about this "victim" business. I have never declared myself to be a victim. What I am trying to make clear to you is that this is supposed to be a forum, not a flamefest.

While I can, unprovoked,  be pretty sarcastic, I very rarely say bad things to people without being provoked.

You seem to revel in it. I have told you and mouse repeatedly about incorrect you Lucy (of "Peanuts" fame) - like analyses are, but you still keep doing it. I just tell you to stop it and make a point.

Frameone calls me an idiot, then mocks me further in the next post, explaining to me, like I'm a dolt that I failed to understand &lt;i&gt;his&lt;/i&gt; poor joke.

Does it make me a victim to acknowledge that these comments have nothing to do with the thread, the current topic, or their contribution to the discussion?

Maybe. Maybe not. But it certainly doesn't make any of you -- Mouse, semanticleo, quaker, or frameone, a better person than I, because you say those things about me, even if you really believe they are true.

So, keep it up, folks, no doubt you're impressing each other, maybe, but certainly not me.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an afterthought, let me clear something up about this &#8220;victim&#8221; business. I have never declared myself to be a victim. What I am trying to make clear to you is that this is supposed to be a forum, not a flamefest.</p>
<p>While I can, unprovoked,  be pretty sarcastic, I very rarely say bad things to people without being provoked.</p>
<p>You seem to revel in it. I have told you and mouse repeatedly about incorrect you Lucy (of &#8220;Peanuts&#8221; fame) - like analyses are, but you still keep doing it. I just tell you to stop it and make a point.</p>
<p>Frameone calls me an idiot, then mocks me further in the next post, explaining to me, like I&#8217;m a dolt that I failed to understand <i>his</i> poor joke.</p>
<p>Does it make me a victim to acknowledge that these comments have nothing to do with the thread, the current topic, or their contribution to the discussion?</p>
<p>Maybe. Maybe not. But it certainly doesn&#8217;t make any of you &#8212; Mouse, semanticleo, quaker, or frameone, a better person than I, because you say those things about me, even if you really believe they are true.</p>
<p>So, keep it up, folks, no doubt you&#8217;re impressing each other, maybe, but certainly not me.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/26/culture-of-corruption-ehrlichs-abramoff-connection/#comment-7523</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 17:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Leo, you're "clever by half." When will you stop analyzing me, and make a friggin' point? You're the one that's incomprehensible. I am not pretending anything. You're not making yourself clear, but from what little I can gather, I'm not sure I want you to...

BTW, because I was curious, I looked up &lt;a href="http://www.sec.gov/about/fairfund042104.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;disgorgement&lt;/a&gt;, to see what context you were using. It seems it's a huge fine levied by the SEC to repay investors hurt by schemes.

I'm not sure it's even relevant to your posts. Now, will you make yourself clear, or go back to doing what you enjoy most, attacking me?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Leo, you&#8217;re &#8220;clever by half.&#8221; When will you stop analyzing me, and make a friggin&#8217; point? You&#8217;re the one that&#8217;s incomprehensible. I am not pretending anything. You&#8217;re not making yourself clear, but from what little I can gather, I&#8217;m not sure I want you to&#8230;</p>
<p>BTW, because I was curious, I looked up <a href="http://www.sec.gov/about/fairfund042104.htm" rel="nofollow">disgorgement</a>, to see what context you were using. It seems it&#8217;s a huge fine levied by the SEC to repay investors hurt by schemes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s even relevant to your posts. Now, will you make yourself clear, or go back to doing what you enjoy most, attacking me?</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/26/culture-of-corruption-ehrlichs-abramoff-connection/#comment-7522</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank;

"Methinks thou doth protest...."



You understand all to well.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank;</p>
<p>&#8220;Methinks thou doth protest&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>You understand all to well.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/26/culture-of-corruption-ehrlichs-abramoff-connection/#comment-7521</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 14:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leo, you distracted me, with your nonsense...

I came here with another "Bush - wack"

&lt;a href="http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/08/08/bush_removal_ended_guam_investigation/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Bush removal ended Guam investigation&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leo, you distracted me, with your nonsense&#8230;</p>
<p>I came here with another &#8220;Bush - wack&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/08/08/bush_removal_ended_guam_investigation/" rel="nofollow">Bush removal ended Guam investigation</a></p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/26/culture-of-corruption-ehrlichs-abramoff-connection/#comment-7520</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 14:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kind of fine do you expect individuals to pay? A bajillion dollars? A gozillion dollars?

What do you want me to say?

I really don't understand you...

And, as to this: "Just a little riddle. What is that sound?" Sorry, I don't care enough to go look... I have stuff to do today...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of fine do you expect individuals to pay? A bajillion dollars? A gozillion dollars?</p>
<p>What do you want me to say?</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t understand you&#8230;</p>
<p>And, as to this: &#8220;Just a little riddle. What is that sound?&#8221; Sorry, I don&#8217;t care enough to go look&#8230; I have stuff to do today&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dugger1</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/26/culture-of-corruption-ehrlichs-abramoff-connection/#comment-7519</link>
		<dc:creator>dugger1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 13:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Semant,

"That s only the third time I ve asked this question."

Theres no one answer..  What is the crime and I'll tell you a punishment.  "War profiteering" is too vague.  Are you saying all contractors who support DOD are war profiteers or are you trying to identify contractors who charge excessive prices nad get what they want because a war is going on?  If the latter, it must first be a crime. And if so, the law should be applied as appropriate.  But I doubt you will find very many.  The contracting process forces comeptiton whre feasible.  Still, absolutely not a sin to make a profit while conracting in support of the war.  How about the contractors dwho have died in Iraq.  Profiteers?

Dugger
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Semant,</p>
<p>&#8220;That s only the third time I ve asked this question.&#8221;</p>
<p>Theres no one answer..  What is the crime and I&#8217;ll tell you a punishment.  &#8220;War profiteering&#8221; is too vague.  Are you saying all contractors who support DOD are war profiteers or are you trying to identify contractors who charge excessive prices nad get what they want because a war is going on?  If the latter, it must first be a crime. And if so, the law should be applied as appropriate.  But I doubt you will find very many.  The contracting process forces comeptiton whre feasible.  Still, absolutely not a sin to make a profit while conracting in support of the war.  How about the contractors dwho have died in Iraq.  Profiteers?</p>
<p>Dugger</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/26/culture-of-corruption-ehrlichs-abramoff-connection/#comment-7518</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 02:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the answer.....one thread up.......
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the answer&#8230;..one thread up&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/26/culture-of-corruption-ehrlichs-abramoff-connection/#comment-7517</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 02:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BK..BK...BK...BWAAAAAACK.......BK.......BK.......BK.........BWAAAAAACK!!!!

Just a little riddle.  What is that sound?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BK..BK&#8230;BK&#8230;BWAAAAAACK&#8230;&#8230;.BK&#8230;&#8230;.BK&#8230;&#8230;.BK&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;BWAAAAAACK!!!!</p>
<p>Just a little riddle.  What is that sound?</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/26/culture-of-corruption-ehrlichs-abramoff-connection/#comment-7516</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 00:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank;

Care to go on the record yourself re;disgorgement?

Hanging seems to be a remote possibility for anyone these days.

You seem to mitigate the severity when you say nazi's only got 10 years.

I don't want to literally hang anyone.  How about the example of the  $100

million fine for ADM?  10 times what the business criminals got from their

illicit acitivity seems just.  Come on Frank,  Go on the record for Pete's

sake!  I'm not after YOU!,  Stop acting like you'd be making an admission

of guilt!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank;</p>
<p>Care to go on the record yourself re;disgorgement?</p>
<p>Hanging seems to be a remote possibility for anyone these days.</p>
<p>You seem to mitigate the severity when you say nazi&#8217;s only got 10 years.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to literally hang anyone.  How about the example of the  $100</p>
<p>million fine for ADM?  10 times what the business criminals got from their</p>
<p>illicit acitivity seems just.  Come on Frank,  Go on the record for Pete&#8217;s</p>
<p>sake!  I&#8217;m not after YOU!,  Stop acting like you&#8217;d be making an admission</p>
<p>of guilt!</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/26/culture-of-corruption-ehrlichs-abramoff-connection/#comment-7515</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 23:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank;

Delay/Frist  MAY or May not be guilty of war crimes (as in this thread having no DIRECT connection to US military policy)  They may be guilty of other crimes that are lesser, but still serious.  Disgorgement similar to FTC fines (example; 10 times the profit made by  Archer Daniels Midland when it tried to corner the citric acid market) may be appropriate upon conviction in a court of law.

However, the question REMAINS;What should happen to war criminals?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank;</p>
<p>Delay/Frist  MAY or May not be guilty of war crimes (as in this thread having no DIRECT connection to US military policy)  They may be guilty of other crimes that are lesser, but still serious.  Disgorgement similar to FTC fines (example; 10 times the profit made by  Archer Daniels Midland when it tried to corner the citric acid market) may be appropriate upon conviction in a court of law.</p>
<p>However, the question REMAINS;What should happen to war criminals?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/26/culture-of-corruption-ehrlichs-abramoff-connection/#comment-7514</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 23:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using Nuremberg as an example, and relying on my memory, I believe some people got as little as ten years, some were sentenced to hanging.

I hope that satisfies you.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using Nuremberg as an example, and relying on my memory, I believe some people got as little as ten years, some were sentenced to hanging.</p>
<p>I hope that satisfies you.</p>
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		<title>By: Dugger</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/26/culture-of-corruption-ehrlichs-abramoff-connection/#comment-7513</link>
		<dc:creator>Dugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 22:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"IF there is a connection between back room business deals amongst brokers and main-line decision/policy makers that lead to innocent people dying, AND war crimes are indicated. What should happen to the guilty parties? "

What are you looking for: some kind  of ghoulish "lets pick the punishment" game?

But personally, I would like to see the miscreants drawn and quartered.  Publicly, of course.  Always wanted to see that but it went out with Nixon.

All of your  "ifs" are a tad remote (war crimes with Gov Ehrlich and his staff????) to begin with.  Now, if Gov Ehrlich were a Nazi and had Hitler's brain on ice, STILL ALIVE, and was thinking about blowing up the New Orleans levees again (Bush did it the first time, I believe) and then murdering all progressives under the influence of this brain....."

Dugger, Stay Tuned As Mayor O'Malley Wins a Fist Fight with Hitler's Brain
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;IF there is a connection between back room business deals amongst brokers and main-line decision/policy makers that lead to innocent people dying, AND war crimes are indicated. What should happen to the guilty parties? &#8221;</p>
<p>What are you looking for: some kind  of ghoulish &#8220;lets pick the punishment&#8221; game?</p>
<p>But personally, I would like to see the miscreants drawn and quartered.  Publicly, of course.  Always wanted to see that but it went out with Nixon.</p>
<p>All of your  &#8220;ifs&#8221; are a tad remote (war crimes with Gov Ehrlich and his staff????) to begin with.  Now, if Gov Ehrlich were a Nazi and had Hitler&#8217;s brain on ice, STILL ALIVE, and was thinking about blowing up the New Orleans levees again (Bush did it the first time, I believe) and then murdering all progressives under the influence of this brain&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>Dugger, Stay Tuned As Mayor O&#8217;Malley Wins a Fist Fight with Hitler&#8217;s Brain</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/26/culture-of-corruption-ehrlichs-abramoff-connection/#comment-7512</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 22:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you looking for: some kind of ghoulish  lets pick the punishment  game?

Yeah, Dugger.  I want to know what you think about "disgorgement" as a fitting punishment for 'war criminals', although we could include political hacks who  abuse our trust.

BTW;

That's only the third time I've asked this question.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you looking for: some kind of ghoulish  lets pick the punishment  game?</p>
<p>Yeah, Dugger.  I want to know what you think about &#8220;disgorgement&#8221; as a fitting punishment for &#8216;war criminals&#8217;, although we could include political hacks who  abuse our trust.</p>
<p>BTW;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s only the third time I&#8217;ve asked this question.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/26/culture-of-corruption-ehrlichs-abramoff-connection/#comment-7511</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 22:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The boolean logic is tricky, Leo, but I think you can handle it:

IF there is no connection between back room business deals amongst brokers and main-line decision/policy makers that lead to innocent people dying, OR no war crimes are indicated?

What should happen to the affected parties?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The boolean logic is tricky, Leo, but I think you can handle it:</p>
<p>IF there is no connection between back room business deals amongst brokers and main-line decision/policy makers that lead to innocent people dying, OR no war crimes are indicated?</p>
<p>What should happen to the affected parties?</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/26/culture-of-corruption-ehrlichs-abramoff-connection/#comment-7510</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 22:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please.  The question still is; WHAT SHOULD  HAPPEN?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please.  The question still is; WHAT SHOULD  HAPPEN?</p>
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		<title>By: rainlion</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/26/culture-of-corruption-ehrlichs-abramoff-connection/#comment-7509</link>
		<dc:creator>rainlion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 21:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What should happen, and what will - scratch that, may happen are very likely two different things. As we've seen, these aren't the 70's - Agnew was forced to resign, as was Nixon... Iran-Contra proved that those days were over.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What should happen, and what will - scratch that, may happen are very likely two different things. As we&#8217;ve seen, these aren&#8217;t the 70&#8217;s - Agnew was forced to resign, as was Nixon&#8230; Iran-Contra proved that those days were over.</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/26/culture-of-corruption-ehrlichs-abramoff-connection/#comment-7508</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 21:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To All;

Let us all stop for a moment.

We do not have the final verdict on these matters.

That will all be revealed in time.

But IF there is a connection between back room business deals amongst brokers and main-line decision/policy makers that lead to innocent people dying, AND war crimes are indicated?

What should happen to the guilty parties?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To All;</p>
<p>Let us all stop for a moment.</p>
<p>We do not have the final verdict on these matters.</p>
<p>That will all be revealed in time.</p>
<p>But IF there is a connection between back room business deals amongst brokers and main-line decision/policy makers that lead to innocent people dying, AND war crimes are indicated?</p>
<p>What should happen to the guilty parties?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/26/culture-of-corruption-ehrlichs-abramoff-connection/#comment-7507</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 20:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I understand your point -- now.

As to the other question: I was referring to two things: yes, I know he appointed him, but that doesn't mean he colluded with him in activities with Abramoff. And Oliver referred to the Governor's "company". It was Miller who was associated with Abramoff.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I understand your point &#8212; now.</p>
<p>As to the other question: I was referring to two things: yes, I know he appointed him, but that doesn&#8217;t mean he colluded with him in activities with Abramoff. And Oliver referred to the Governor&#8217;s &#8220;company&#8221;. It was Miller who was associated with Abramoff.</p>
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		<title>By: rainlion</title>
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		<dc:creator>rainlion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Farris - just went back and reread your comments, thanks for providing a bit of levity on a typical monday -

"I don't know enough about the scandalettes..." - as demonstrated by your Schumer comment

I repeat:

Frankly, while guilt by association is neither fair or reasonable; asking questions along those lines and considering the possibilities is only logical.
Which is why folks have been "yelling" about Rove, Abramhoff, etc. for 5 years... lack of questions asked and answers made.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Farris - just went back and reread your comments, thanks for providing a bit of levity on a typical monday -</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t know enough about the scandalettes&#8230;&#8221; - as demonstrated by your Schumer comment</p>
<p>I repeat:</p>
<p>Frankly, while guilt by association is neither fair or reasonable; asking questions along those lines and considering the possibilities is only logical.<br />
Which is why folks have been &#8220;yelling&#8221; about Rove, Abramhoff, etc. for 5 years&#8230; lack of questions asked and answers made.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/26/culture-of-corruption-ehrlichs-abramoff-connection/#comment-7505</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rainlion: &lt;i&gt;Frankly, while guilt by association is neither fair or reasonable; asking questions along those lines and considering the possibilities is &lt;b&gt;only logical&lt;/b&gt;. [emphasis added]&lt;/i&gt;

If guilt by association is neither fair nor reasonable, how could asking questions be 'only logical'?. Are you saying that something can be unfair, unreasonable and logical? Couldn't be -- could it?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rainlion: <i>Frankly, while guilt by association is neither fair or reasonable; asking questions along those lines and considering the possibilities is <b>only logical</b>. [emphasis added]</i></p>
<p>If guilt by association is neither fair nor reasonable, how could asking questions be &#8216;only logical&#8217;?. Are you saying that something can be unfair, unreasonable and logical? Couldn&#8217;t be &#8212; could it?</p>
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