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	<title>Comments on: No Time for Back Patting</title>
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	<description>Like Kryptonite To Stupid</description>
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		<title>By: dugger1</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/24/no-time-for-back-patting/#comment-7608</link>
		<dc:creator>dugger1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 13:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Semant,

What was going on was that most posters here, really did not like Kerry&#039;s, in effect, pro war postion, but silently acquiesced in the name of party unity. The politics are much more radical and the people much worse, but kinda what happened to the Communist Party after the Nazi Soviet Pact.  Some stayed true to their ideals, some didn&#039;t.
Dugger
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Semant,</p>
<p>What was going on was that most posters here, really did not like Kerry&#8217;s, in effect, pro war postion, but silently acquiesced in the name of party unity. The politics are much more radical and the people much worse, but kinda what happened to the Communist Party after the Nazi Soviet Pact.  Some stayed true to their ideals, some didn&#8217;t.<br />
Dugger</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/24/no-time-for-back-patting/#comment-7607</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 01:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to go off on a tangent, Oliver, but President Clinton&#039;s problems, just like President Bush&#039;s problems, did not come about because of their opponents.  They came about because of their individual choices, decisions, and actions.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to go off on a tangent, Oliver, but President Clinton&#8217;s problems, just like President Bush&#8217;s problems, did not come about because of their opponents.  They came about because of their individual choices, decisions, and actions.</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/24/no-time-for-back-patting/#comment-7606</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2005 15:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all knew what was going on.

Cryptic, but intriguing.  Care to elaborate?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all knew what was going on.</p>
<p>Cryptic, but intriguing.  Care to elaborate?</p>
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		<title>By: dugger1</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/24/no-time-for-back-patting/#comment-7605</link>
		<dc:creator>dugger1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, whatever else, Eli is true to his ideals.  He opposed the war here when most other progressives made a &quot;deal with the devil&quot; for Kerry&#039;s sake.  We all knew what was going on.

Dugger
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, whatever else, Eli is true to his ideals.  He opposed the war here when most other progressives made a &#8220;deal with the devil&#8221; for Kerry&#8217;s sake.  We all knew what was going on.</p>
<p>Dugger</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/24/no-time-for-back-patting/#comment-7604</link>
		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2005 08:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oliver, when you get a situation where presidential candidates are appearing at $1000 a plate dinners to lobby for funds from the super-rich to fund a campaign which costs tens of millions, how can either be progressive and keep it&#039;s rich contributors happy?
Clinton may have been a more able president than Bush 43, but he didn&#039;t change the laws on arsenic in the water until Bush was due at the door. If Gore had got the job, would this law have even been thought of?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oliver, when you get a situation where presidential candidates are appearing at $1000 a plate dinners to lobby for funds from the super-rich to fund a campaign which costs tens of millions, how can either be progressive and keep it&#8217;s rich contributors happy?<br />
Clinton may have been a more able president than Bush 43, but he didn&#8217;t change the laws on arsenic in the water until Bush was due at the door. If Gore had got the job, would this law have even been thought of?</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2005 18:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please explain to me, of the two parties in America, which one is more progressive. Then explain to me if there is any way a third party could be succesful in America (not that I would want one). Now quit bitchin&#039;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please explain to me, of the two parties in America, which one is more progressive. Then explain to me if there is any way a third party could be succesful in America (not that I would want one). Now quit bitchin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: SadieB</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/24/no-time-for-back-patting/#comment-7602</link>
		<dc:creator>SadieB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2005 17:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Democratic Party is a once-grand mansion, abandoned by her true heirs and taken over by squatters. Progressives have a choice, we can start over from scratch or move into this fixer-upper, roll up our sleeves, and go to work.

I know what my choice is. I ran for, and won, a spot on the Executive Board of my local County Democrats last spring. I challenge all Progressives to put their money (and time, and energy) where their mouth is, and join me.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Democratic Party is a once-grand mansion, abandoned by her true heirs and taken over by squatters. Progressives have a choice, we can start over from scratch or move into this fixer-upper, roll up our sleeves, and go to work.</p>
<p>I know what my choice is. I ran for, and won, a spot on the Executive Board of my local County Democrats last spring. I challenge all Progressives to put their money (and time, and energy) where their mouth is, and join me.</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2005 16:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eli;

pretty broad.  care to erlucidate?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eli;</p>
<p>pretty broad.  care to erlucidate?</p>
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		<title>By: Eli Stephens</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/24/no-time-for-back-patting/#comment-7600</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli Stephens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2005 13:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To the progressive movement, specifically the Democratic Party...&quot;

The Democratic Party is not the &quot;progressive movement&quot; or even &lt;i&gt;part&lt;/i&gt; of the progressive movement; it is an &lt;i&gt;obstacle&lt;/i&gt; to the progressive movement.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To the progressive movement, specifically the Democratic Party&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The Democratic Party is not the &#8220;progressive movement&#8221; or even <i>part</i> of the progressive movement; it is an <i>obstacle</i> to the progressive movement.</p>
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