This is all you need to know
One prominent African-American supporter of Mr. Bush who is close to Karl Rove, the White House political chief, said the president did not go into the heart of New Orleans and meet with black victims on his first trip there, last Friday, because he knew that White House officials were “scared to death” of the reaction.
“If I’m Karl, do I want the visual of black people hollering at the president as if we’re living in Rwanda?” said the supporter, who spoke only anonymously because he did not want to antagonize Mr. Rove.
I’m sure JC Watts, Colin Powell, and Condoleeza Rice will be moseyin’ around to tell us it’s all okay.
But it ain’t.
Keep in mind that it wasn’t fear of the black reaction per se. It was fear of how images of the black reaction would make the president look to whites.
This proves … nothing. Somebody’s opinion/speculation about somebody’s else potential motivation. Give me a break. I am sure that they were “scared to death”. All some allegedly close source to somebody in the Administration did was state something that makes you believe something you would have believed, and already believed. It must be sad to live in your world.
Frankly, it’s not just the black community–it’s everywhere.
Bush and his cronies really cannot appear anywhere the public hasn’t been screened and groomed. Even then, it doesn’t work.
Proof would only happen with either a wiretap or, said black advisor to Rove turning his back on the Repugs and crossing over to the left side of the aisle. We’d love to have him or her. I’d even shell out dollars to buy the tell-all book (like David Brock’s) if he or she chooses to write one, just to reward the courage to speak out publicly. Vote with your dollars, after all, that’s all that Corporate America cares about anyway.
But, alas, can’t expect people to make such big changes in their lives… can just encourage them.
Oh, anonymous African-American Rove-crony with your conscience gnawing at you as you watch your Brothers and Sisters drown… if you really exist and are not some reporter’s fiction, please come out of the cold.
We like defectors, we really do. I’m sure you know how to win campaigns…. Goddess knows we can use more of y’all over here.
Most drug addicts and alcoholics live in denial for years. The truth is right there and they still deny it. Just like the new conservatives…hey, your philosphy is bankrupt, your leader is a moron, the world is laughing at us and most people think we could have done better with Ralph Nader.
And, by the way, Frank, Rush has a box of cigars for you.
Don’t hold your breath, goatchowder.
Joe Schmoe, what you don’t know about denial could fill volumes — and it does; they’re in buildings called libraries.
Shmoe, you’re probably confusing “new conservatives” with “neoconservatives” — two different things.
My philosophy, as you call it, is actually an “ideology,” another word for you to look up while you’re looking up “neoconservative.” And it’s not bankrupt — it’s making its way around the world.
And, after you’ve got an MBA from Harvard, and governed the largest state in the continental US, and beat the pants off a”nuanced, sophisticated
Massachusetts lawyer” in 2004, then you can call George W. Bush a moron. Until then, if he’s a moron, you’re a paramecium. Look that one up, too.
Your remark about the “world” calls for you to know something about the world, so forget that.
As for Rush Limbaugh’s cigars, I haven’t smoked since 1988, when you were a tot, I suppose, and I haven’t listened to his show in years. You’ve probably heard it more recently than I have.
By the way……Frank?
I’m getting a clearer picture of you.
You are a little like the mercs FEMA has just brought into NOLA.
I think perhaps you are, or hope to feed at the same trough as the rest of the opportunists. Perhaps Condi will slop you. Maybe you’ll get sloppy seconds too.
It’s making it’s way around the world……
The Conquistadores made their way around the world as well.
Knowing the world as well as you do, it should be apparent that some diseases should be quarantined so that their progress around the world is slowed or stopped completely.
My philosophy, as you call it, is actually an ideology, another word for you to look up.
There are many different meanings for the term “ideology”. In some usages, it is a rigid cognitive framework through which one perceives and communicates reality.
In other words it is a way of viewing things that is largely indifferent to reality and impervious to conflicting evidence - modern American conservatism (and neoconservatism) to a “t”.
My, my, Wilbur, if I thought you had the slightest what you were talking about — let alone what I was talking about — I’d be hurt.
Countdown until Dugger quotes some anonymous source from White House as defense of the Bafoon-in-Chief….5…..4…..3…..2….
Oh, please. Yet another, extremely convenient, “anonymous” commenter helps progressives make a killer point. A point that logic and intellect alone cannot sustain. Well just this morning I talked to anonymous mid tier black Democrat (the partys’s elite white power structure will not permit blacks to be in the upper tier) who told me that ALL blacks love Bush and are going to vote for him next election.
Dugger Inc., Who has Anonymous Sources Available to Verify Any Point You Want to Make. $19.95 per killer quote.
Another anonymous source has just tipped me that “Mr. Curmudgeon is really a 13 year old Brazilian hacker, sitting in an Internet Cafe in Brasilia
I want to hear more about your ideology, Frank, the one that’s making its way around the world. This sounds really good. And yes, I have no problem believing a 13 year old Brazilian has more sense than you. I would say even an 11 year old Brazilian.
dugger — “ALL blacks love Bush!” You really ought to warn people before you say stuff like that, you almost made coffee come out of my nose.
Frank;
That’s a one source story. Notes on the conversation are available to my editor, but not to you. Sorry
Another anonymous source says ties to the Bush administration have organized RNC operatives into disinformation cells for the purpose of short-circuiting any possible threats to the status quo.
SadieB: First of all, I have neither the time nor the inclination to “share my ideology” with you. But you could start with Russell Kirk. Write me a 500 word essay on his thought, and its influence (or lack of influence) on the 2000 and 2004 elections. Then we’ll talk.
And you’re insulting is like your thinking — lousy!
Frank;
“I have neither the time………’
Seems like you’ve got a lot of time. A pro- market guy like yourself doesn’t work for free, does he?
Can we just call it “Frankism?” That’s good enough for me.
And as far as my powers of insult, well I guess I do fall short of the “poopy head” mark but I am learning more every day.
Now you know all about how much timw I have, eh, leo?
Sheesh, you’ve learned a hell of a lot about me in the last, what — 72 hours?
Amazing…
SadieB, not up to the challenge of reading one of conservatism’s intellectual giants?
Why am I not surprised…
Coulter school of artful- dodging
Yeah Frank, I probably know a lot more about you than you think I do.
Frank;
Your comments are brief for a calculating reason. (Something else I know about you without laboratory evidence—Imagine the power of deductive reasoning!)
You do not elaborate on your ideas because the more you write, the larger the hole in your argument. When you abbreviate your bloviations you deliberately create an inference that you can later deny.
“When did I say that? If that is what I meant to say, I would have said it.”
That offers you the opportunity to suggest the responder is using faulty
logic and the attack mode goes full-blown.
So; do us all a favor; (”….not up to the challenge….”) stop taking refuge
in your unimaginative one-liners.
It’s not helpful to the discussion. Or is that your intent?
BTW—I do have mental telepathy(HeHe)
Oh don’t worry, Frank., I’ll read it all right.
Actually I’m a little disappointed. I was setting you up to make a crack about “Sadism.” Well maybe next time.
SadieB: Don’t bother
Your comments are brief for a calculating reason. The only correct part of the post. The rest is, as usual, nonsense.
Incidentally, “abbreviated blviations” is an oxymoron
Ignore the trolls
No, no, I want to read it, I really do.
I want to be able to help you see where he goes wrong. How can I do that unless I read it myelf? Just give me a few days, okay?
Um, Sadie, just a word of advice, Frank has a way of assigning homework then disappearing into the ether when the answers he asks for aren’t what he expected.
SadieB: It doesn’t take a few days to read this:
Ten Conservative Principles (1993)
1. First, the conservative believes that there exists an enduring moral order.
2. Second, the conservative adheres to custom, convention, and continuity.
3. Third, conservatives believe in what may be called the principle of prescription.
4. Fourth, conservatives are guided by their principle of prudence.
5. Fifth, conservatives pay attention to the principle of variety.
6. Sixth, conservatives are chastened by their principle of imperfectability.
7. Seventh, conservatives are persuaded that freedom and property are closely linked.
8. Eighth, conservatives uphold voluntary community, quite as they oppose involuntary collectivism.
9. Ninth, the conservative perceives the need for prudent restraints upon power and upon human passions.
10. Tenth, the thinking conservative understands that permanence and change must be recognized and reconciled in a vigorous society.
All I’m asking is that you accept the fact that what I believe is a lot closer to this, than the feces you monkeys fling, and claim I believe.
Mouse: Unlike all of you Oliver sycophants, I do things beside following around behind him cleaning up after his histrionic posts.
Frank D : I had the honor, nay, the privilege of spending a weekend with Russell Kirk when I was a youngster at his home in Michigan, and visiting with him and his family countless times throughout my childhood. Turns out he was a relative of mine. It was not until years later that I grew to learn who he was, and what he did. Sure wish I could have some of that time back now.
Thanks for the heads up, Mouse.
Don’t worry, Frank, you don’t have to tell me what he says I can read for myself. I have learned not to put too much faith in your interpretation of things. There’s a lot of stuff you don’t seem to pick up on.
SadieB: That information was “cut and pasted” from his web site.
JD and Frank,
Have you read any of Kirk’s fiction. If you like horror of a semi-Lovecraftian type, he is /was very good.
Dugger
I don’t go for that kind of stuff, but I’m sure it was on a par with Buckley’s fiction — great stuff!
Well, maybe not up there with God, but close.
Dugger (WFB - he doth bestride the earth like a colossus)