“Lets both pledge ‘

Nevber heard back from you on this. I was thinking you guys really believed in fiscal responsibility and that your criticisms of Bush’s excesses wasn’t just opportunistic ideological posturing. Guess I shouldn’t give the left credit for being serious.

Dugger, Now Disillusioned

Maybe that was where I was wrong, too.

You, of course, would never concede that your use of the word “administration”is 8 years for some Presidents, and four years for others, the fiscal year changed once during that period, budget calculations have changed, etc., etc., points I am not holding over your head.

You are certainly free to call me anything you want.

Allow me to remind you of your words, just above:

I d love to see the total deficits for each administration since 1928, as a percentage of spending, and see who s got the larger deficits, Democrats or Republicans.

And you added:

What I asked for was this (and I have no plans to do the calculations myself, but I will accept your word if you do them.

So I gave you your calculations, including the the table from which your calculations were made.

Now that your challenge was met and your point lies gasping as it drowns in a puddle of its own making, you’re resorting to the sour grapes defense.

I’m not surprised by this at all; in fact, I expected this would be your reaction. You have proven yourself to be lazy and intellectually dishonest.

I don’t believe LBJ had only a .43% defecit considering he was trying to sun the Viet Nam war, and launch the Great Society at the same time. Something is wrong with that figure.

Secondly, Bush I should not have such a huge deficit, considering no truky major legislative projects passed his desk, and he was pressured into a large tax increase.

Finally, since the Parties in charge of Congress aren’t mentioned, the figures don’t demonstrate who’s better at managing the budget. I thought they might, but they don’t.

As for which Party is better at managing the budget, my answer for now would be: none.

Both parties are scaling bills across Bush’s desk like there’s no tomorrow, and I don’t think he’s vetues anything since he came into office.
I’m not the only conservative who’s unhappy about this.

But one thing that hasn’t changed in my mind is the idea that Liberal Democrats throw money at problems, without seeking real solutions.

First of all, look at available revenues for the fiscal year. Then the amount of the deficit. Make a fraction. Make it a percentage. $1000 revenue, $100 deficit, percentage = 10%. OK?

OK. Using this table, Here is the calculation: Current Receipts minus Current Expenditures and converted the difference into a percentage of Current Expenditures.

Here’s how it looks for every administration:

Hoover: 19.13% Deficit
Roosevelt: 30.79 % Deficit
Truman: 4.84% Surplus
Eisenhower: 3.69% Surplus
JFK: 3.81% Surplus
Johnson: 0.43% Surplus
Nixon: 7.62% Deficit
Ford: 14.62% Deficit
Carter: 6.56% Deficit
Reagan: 16.22% Deficit
Bush I: 17.36% Deficit
Clinton: 2.31% Deficit
Bush II: 11.38% Deficit

Overall here is how it stacks up:

Democratic Administrations: 3% Deficit
Republican Administrations: 13.70% Deficit

I have a feeling none of this will change your mind about which party does a better job of managing the federal budget.

“Frank_D Says:…I d love to see the total deficits for each administration since 1928, as a percentage of spending, and see who s got the larger deficits, Democrats or Republicans.”

I found this link. Maybe this will clear some things up.

What I asked for was this (and I have no plans to do the calculations myself, but I will accept your word if you do them.

First of all, look at available revenues for the fiscal year. Then the amount of the deficit. Make a fraction. Make it a percentage. $1000 revenue, $100 deficit, percentage = 10%. OK?

Now, compare Democrats with Republicans, Congresses or Pesidents, it doesn’t matter. I’m willing to bet the Democrats outspent the Republicans by a long shot.

Is this

“Actually, Frank and Dugger, the amount might as well be infinity your grandkids and their kids and their kids will be paying it off, not you.

Ahhh, GOP accountability at it s finest. ”

just hot air or do you believe in acountability. Tell you what. Lets both pledge to support only those candidates that promise to balance the budget in 2008, first budget submission. How about it. I’m for it. Of course we can forget socialized medicine etc. Your turn Jade.

Dugger

When the Republicans want to spend money, and, when the Republicans are in power.

I’d love to see the total deficits for each administration since 1928, as a percentage of spending, and see who’s got the larger deficits, Democrats or Republicans.

His premise to this post is so flawed on so many levels, I do not even know where to start.

First, he assumes that his doomsday scenario for Iraq is the only possibility. Though it is a possibility, it is one of many.

I love how these “tax cuts” that the liberals want us to believe are draining the public treasurey have actually created record revenues to the government. So much easier to just hang onto their mantra though.

Along the same lines, they always seem to be whining about some budget cuts, but I have yet to see a budget cut since President Bush took office. All I have seen is increase spending on top of increased spending.

Ahhh, GOP accountability at it’s finest.

So…what are your solutions?

Well, thats a relief. I thought we were going to have to pay for the Katrina recovery; that the money would come out of the pockets of the citizenry, but now I learn we HAVE the money. Great. Was it a gift or inheritance? Did we find a big stash of cash underneath the Capitol dome?

Dugger

The first is “Well, I won’t ever make that mistake again”.

The second is “Bastard scammers! I’m going to hunt them down and hand them into the authorities so they don’t rip off anyone else”.

The third is “You lie! I wasn’t scammed! I’m a good person! I’d never made a bad decision!”

The polls are currently showing that we’ve already peeled off the first two types of conservatives within Bush’s support base. The remainder in the third category are now trolling on this and other blogs. Let ‘em scream. They’ve already lost. Their only hope now is Diebold election-fiddling.

For the record, I pick (c). Elapsed decision time: 0.03 seconds.

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