The Leadership of Albert Gore
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Officials in Chattanooga, Tennessee, say they expect a thousand more storm refugees tomorrow.
A United Way official says people rescued after Hurricane Katrina will be housed at Red Cross shelters throughout the city.
About 130 hurricane refugees arrived in Chattanooga Sunday on a plane chartered by former Vice President Al Gore.
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Of course, if Ray Nagin hadn’t allowed 200 busses to flood…
But we dare not criticize now since he’s a DEMOCRAT!
Right, Oliver?
Yes, Al Gore would have rescued 130 refugees in his own paid – for plane…
::Pant:: ::Swoon::
Kudos to Al for helping out.
But I fail to see how this proves anything.
By itself it proves nothing, but as evidence mounts of how selfish, out-of-touch and pusilllanimous your Great Leader is, the contrast between him and a genuine public servant like Al Gore is all the more evident.
You’ve gotta read this:
http://newmarksdoor.typepad.com/mainblog/2005/09/what_would_have.html
Al Gore seems to have accomplished more than most Democrats, so far, but…
Are you also going to post on the leadership of Wal-Mart?
http://www.walmartfacts.com/community/article.aspx?id=1331
I have just read 2 independent reports that FEMA is not just housing survivors, they are imprisoning them. Not against their will, but they are told that if they leave the shelter, they will not be allowed to return. They are being treated like virtual prisoners. No personal items, no food, no cooking, no milk, 2 meals a day, and they aren’t allowed to cook, although they have kitchens, because of the chance of fires. And no milk or snacks allowed, because “they may cause a riot.” The people at this facility will not be allowed to attend church, nor can people come in on Sundays to worship with the survivors. The people are reporting that FEMA will lock down the people for five months.
Also a man drove from Southern California to Texas to adopt a family, but when he arrived at the Astrodome, he was told no one could go in or leave. I did not hear how long that order is in affect.
Could this really be happening in this country? since when did victims become criminals? This is incredible if true. But not surprising. And if true, it will be just another black mark in the pages of our history book.
Hey Brandon, a quick little quiz for you.
Who the f**k was going to drive those busses, friend? Most anyone qualified had already left town. And Nagin did, for the record, order city busses out to get those still in town down to the SuperDome.
Concordian…
And Nagin did, for the record, order city busses out to get those still in town down to the SuperDome.
I’m curious why he didn’t also pre-position food and water there and at other shelters. I suspect he was in “24-hour shelter from wind and rain” mode like most other officials and residents (including the President.)
It’s obvious what Gore would have done. He would have placed New Orleans in a giant, category 5 hurricane rated, locked-box.
DUH!
BTW, what does chartering one plane have to do with leadership?
Seems more like a generous contribution to me…
Calling Hollywood!
I m curious why he didn t also pre-position food and water there and at other shelters.
He DID. It just wasn’t enough for the number of people who showed up (at least 10,000 more than expected, which is why I think the Convention Center was used to handle more people). Why he didn’t get more food and water there, I’m not sure, but it may have been because of the communications system failure (which he should shoulder the blame for).
gwangung,
Reads this for your answer:
http://www.redcross.org/faq/0,1096,0_682_4524,00.html
The ARC was ready to bring relief to the Superdome as early as Monday August 30th, before the major flooding even began, but were refused access by La officials.
That’s exactly what I’ve been wondering.
Except I’ve been asking that about playing the guitar and getting in a few rounds of golf.
Frank_D Says:
BTW, what does chartering one plane have to do with leadership?
Seems more like a generous contribution to me&
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Of course it seems nothing but a generous contribution to you because like most Reps you have no idea about how the government works.
In fact you have no idea how the world around you works.
Have you ever heard about landing rights? TRANSCOM? NDMS?
It was not just chartering some planes. That alone wouldn’t have done a damn thing.
It was to organize the whole effort in face of idiots in FEMA and in the military and their darling red tape. And it was not just Gore but Greg Simon, his former advisor, and other less-known figures in this operation.
And you bet, unlike Simon and Gore you couldn’t have led this rescue effort because you wouldn’t have had a clue as to what was needed for success and whom to call and what to tell them.
Nor did your Bush, apparently. That’s one of many reasons why he should not be the head of the federal executive branch.
Read this very carefully:
http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/9/7/164747/4155
BTW which planet are you living on?
In each case: Nothing but show…
Frank_D Says:
You ve gotta read this:
http://newmarksdoor.typepad.com/mainblog/2005/09/what_would_have.html
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OK I read this. And now what?
It’s not funny at all. It is juveline and baseless. What’s that stuff about Gore inventing the internet? Gore never said that and never meant to say that. So it’s not a good joke unless you want to laugh at the authort of that insane tirade.
FEMA under Clinton was headed by the most competent director you can imagine who earned bypartisan praise — unlike Brown. Get over it.
I took a quick look at it, and it while it was intriguing, I wasn’t very excited…
No, I didn’t know all there was to know about chartering a plane, but I’m sure I could find out rather quickly, If I were so inclined.
Contrary to what you might believe, it doesn’t take a genius — or an inspired leader — to look things up on the Internet.
TRANSCOM = http://www.transcom-worldwide.com/
NDMS = http://www.oep-ndms.dhhs.gov/
How do you know so much about it? You’re not pretending it’s common knowledge, are you?
You’re not pretending that Gore didn’t use any of his influence as a former V.P., are you?
It seems like the fact that FasterCures was doing most of the “grunt” work, and that somebody had some “pull” with Al Gore had a lot do do with it.
I think it’s rather foolish of you to suggest that I must come from another planet, because I don’t have information about chartering an airplane at my fingertips. Perhaps that’s because I don’t have the income to purchase a seat on a chartered airplane, let alone charter a plane for 130 people.
You sure went pretty far out of your way, to reach for an insult. I’m sure there are lots I know about, that you don’t. Lots!
Frank_D Says: I took a quick look at it, and it while it was intriguing, I wasn t very excited&
1.A quick look is carefull reading in you world. Congrats!
2.It was not for exciting you or anyone else, asshole. It is not a report from a NASCAR race.
3.Of course you won’t be excited by reading how a patients were rescued. That’s not what can excite people like you. It is Bush on the rubble of the WTC with a bullhorn! Now that’s exciting! Yip-yip!
Grow up.
Frank_D Says: No, I didn t know all there was to know about chartering a plane, but I m sure I could find out rather quickly, If I were so inclined.
And apparently you are still not inclined since apparently you still don’t get it.
It was not about chartering planes. That itself would have been easy. It was to find the right people at the right time and cut through the red tape which would have killed the whole effort.
So really where is the leadership in all that? Actually that’s exactly what your leader, or whatever he is, should have done before Katrina hit but at least right after that. But for that you have to know how the government works which Bush doesn’t understand and never will. How could he? He doesn’t trust Washington, he doesn’t trust Washington, he doesn’t trust Washington….he just want to be the top dog over there.
For him it’s not a contradiction. For Gore it is. Do you grasp the difference?
Frank_D Says: Contrary to what you might believe, it doesn t take a genius or an inspired leader to look things up on the Internet.
TRANSCOM = http://www.transcom-worldwide.com/
NDMS = http://www.oep-ndms.dhhs.gov/
Gee! It’s that easy. Then why didn’t you do that before you came here and asked that amazingly insightful question: what does this have to do with leadership?
Frank_D Says: How do you know so much about it?
You ask that after you said it’s so damn easy to get to know that kind of stuff?
Frank_D Says: You re not pretending it s common knowledge, are you?
It’s common knowledge among people like Gore.
And certainly it is not known by people like you who support incompetents like Bush.
Frank_D Says: You re not pretending that Gore didn t use any of his influence as a former V.P., are you?
Influcence? You guys have done nothing but deride and ridicule him for years and now you say that he has so much influcence? How moving!
But let’s say he has influence all over the place just because he is a loser former vice president.
Using your influence where you know it can make a positive difference is an essential part of leadership. I suppose that’s news to you.
Frank_D Says: It seems like the fact that FasterCures was doing most of the grunt work, and that somebody had some pull with Al Gore had a lot do do with it.
Fine, give FasterCures credit. Then FasterCures will give credit to Gore because without him it wouldn’t have happened. If you had read the report carefully instead of just taking a quick look at it you would understand why.
BTW Gore was actually on the ground at NOLA and then in Tennessee working together with FasterCures. But never let facts change your mind. That’s not how a Bushman’s brain operates.
Frank_D Says: I think it s rather foolish of you to suggest that I must come from another planet, because I don t have information about chartering an airplane at my fingertips.
It think it’s rather foolish of you to suggest that Gore just payed for a flight and that was it.
And again: it was not just about chartering an airplane. Go back and read that report again.
Frank_D Says: Perhaps that s because I don t have the income to purchase a seat on a chartered airplane, let alone charter a plane for 130 people.
It has nothing to do with your income. It has a lot to do with education and research and not making silly assumptions before you know enough about the subject.
And as you yourself said it is not rocket science to make that research in this particular case. Just a few clicks, right?
Frank_D Says: You sure went pretty far out of your way, to reach for an insult.
That’s what blind ignoramuses who put people like Bush to the White House deserve.
Frank_D Says: I m sure there are lots I know about, that you don t. Lots!
Yes. But that has nothing to do with Gore’s leadership. Which is what the subject was here and now, if I’m not mistaken.
drummo — You want to fight? Join the Marines… If they’ll have you.
You’re being a jerk, and that anyone can tell!
What you want from me?
Yay, Al Gore!
OK?
Now go away…
I dunno Frank, drummo’s comments seem pretty right on. If anyone is being a jerk here I would say it’s you. As evidenced by this comment:
“Yes, Al Gore would have rescued 130 refugees in his own paid – for plane&
::Pant:: ::Swoon::”
As well as the posting of the stupid anti-Clinton and Gore link. I know you think you’re being funny, but really what a jerk. Now go away.
Dave M: No. Your opinion means less to me than Drummo’s.
Frank_D Says:
drummo You want to fight? Join the Marines& If they ll have you.
Unfortunately as a US Marine I could not fight against you. They are ordered to kill Iraqi citizens nowadays, that’s true, but they cannot fight against “innocent” American citizens like you. If they do they end up in prison or worse. So if you go to Iraq and change your citizenship I will be more than happy to join the Marines and fight against you. Your Bush could even brag that one more insurgent was killed in Iraq. Would you be willing to make that small sacrifice for your smirking idol?
Frank_D Says: You re being a jerk, and that anyone can tell!
That’s not an argument. Take a cold shower and come back with a better one.
Frank_D Says:
What you want from me?
Yay, Al Gore!
OK?
No, not OK at all. You misunderestimate me.
Yay, Al Gore? What kind of bullshit is that? Idiots at Bush rallies make such statements except with a different name. You know, “I love W” and similar hogwash.
No. What I want is to make you and your fellow shallow Bushmen to understand that the presidency is NOT about photo ops or creating the “image of a stong leader”. It’s not about Karl Rove’s soundbites, damage control and childish talking points. And it is not about month-long vacations.
It’s about coordination, quick reaction, detail knowledge about various disaster scenarios and knowledge about the government you happen to lead.
It’s about appointing competent people to head the federal agencies instead of putting you political buddies all over the place.
It’s about understanding each agency and the laws and regulations which guides them.
It’s about collecting and analyzing information quickly because in crisis situation every damn minute matters.
And most of all it is about working you butt out instead of having a good time down there on your fucking ranch.
Have you ever heard about personal responsibility? Now that’s exactly what Bush doesn’t have because you guys let him get away with every monumental bloody blunder he makes.
I don’t care who is doing the job of president, whether it’s Gore the Dalai Lama or the skeleton of Barry Goldwater. If he knows how to govern in an effective and productive way he has my support.
But Bush transformed the presiceny into a threater. He could do it because YOU let him do it. People have been dying on his watch faster than I can follow but you don’t care about that since Bush is sooooooo “exciting”. You may even have an orgasm while listening to his recent abuse of the English language. Ahhhh! Who could demand more?
Frank_D Says: Dave M: No. Your opinion means less to me than Drummo s.
If our opinion didn’t matter to you you would not waste time for typing such meaningless replies. But you do. So we have to conclude that our opinion drives you crazy instead of leaving you cold.
It doesn’t either “drive me crazy” or “leave me cold.”
It’s you lefties that try to push everything into “either / or” boxes.
Sometimes, people don’t think what you think they do…
Really.
And, yes, Al Gore did something rather remarkable, for a “kind – of” private citizen.
But pretending, as Oliver did — and you, in defending him — that this is somehow representative of an idyllic, “Oh, what could have been, if only Al Gore had been President” performance, is nonsense.
I’m sure that if George W. Bush had done the same thing the other day, he would have been accused of “grandstanding”, or the people rescued would have been put under a microscope, to see if they were rich, or “not – of – color”, or in some way categorized so as to put Bush in a bad light…
The fact that you threw a cybertantrum, insulted me for no good reason, and made a simple — albeit complicated — act of charity, into a “Mission Impossible” scenario, says more about your worshiping Gore as a demigod, than it does about my defending Bush.
While what I don’t know about initiating rescue missions during disasters is voluminous, it doesn’t make me ignorant, by a long shot.
For you to flame me twice about this whole thing makes you — well, whatever it makes you.
Frank_D Says:It doesn t either drive me crazy or leave me cold.
Stop spinning. You are not on ‘Meet the Press’.
Remember?
During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the Internet
means the same as
I invented the Internet
So obviously:
Your opinion means less to me than Drummo s
means the same as
Your opinion leaves me cold
Logical.
Frank_D Says:It s you lefties that try to push everything into either / or boxes
No, actually that’s a right-wing game. You are either with us or against us. You either support the war or your are a traitor. You either support Bush or you are against God. Etc.
But do you really think that only lefties can think Bush is an incompetent clown? Let me remind you that there are no 59 million lefties in the US.
Frank_D Says:But pretending, as Oliver did and you, in defending him that this is somehow representative of an idyllic, Oh, what could have been, if only Al Gore had been President performance, is nonsense.
Man, you are really slow. Nothing is idyllic about cutting through red tape and organizing a rescue mission. It’s not a sentimental issue as you present it. It’s an issue of organizational skills rooted in detailed knowledge of government and the ability to process information quickly combined with the ability to work hard. Those are the qualities Bush doesn’t have and never had and that’s why he shouldn’t be in the White House. And those are the qualities Gore has had for a long time and that’s why he should be in the White House. That’s it. Not rocket science.
Of course it’s nonsense to believe otherwise.
Frank_D Says:I m sure that if George W. Bush had done the same thing the other day, he would have been accused of grandstanding ,
Are you also sure that the Earth is flat?
If George W. Bush had done the same thing his name would be Al Gore.
The whole point is that there is no way Bush would do something like that. Get it?
Frank_D Says: or the people rescued would have been put under a microscope, to see if they were rich, or not – of – color , or in some way categorized so as to put Bush in a bad light&
You are paranoid. I don’t think Bush is racist. He is just an incompetent clown who is in love with his political power. Black or white it doesn’t matter since he doesn’t care about anyone or anything other than his own damn political career. If you had been in Charity he wouldn’t have helped you, either. Not even if you are as white as a polar bear in a wedding dress.
Frank_D Says:The fact that you threw a cybertantrum, insulted me for no good reason,
Your support for an incompetent political hack which is based on your astonishing ignorance about governance is a very good reason to insult you.
Especially if you started to insult others with websites like this:
http://newmarksdoor.typepad.com/mainblog/2005/09/what_would_have.html
Frank_D Says:For you to flame me twice about this whole thing makes you well, whatever it makes you.
Did you steal this articulate statement from a Bush speech?
Frank_D Says:Now you ve reached the point where you expect me to unravel your misinterpretations of my words.
Which of your words were misinterpreted? Please please please reveal that big secret!
Frank_D Says:I m sorry you think you know what I ve said, but actually don t;
Actually I do know what you’ve said since I can read.
Frank_D Says: They are not only causing you more harm than good, but they are causing me no harm at all.
Of course nothing can cause you harm anymore since you reached an all time low by supporting Bush for president. What can be worse than that?
Fisked three times — I’m honored…
Now you’ve reached the point where you expect me to unravel your misinterpretations of my words.
I’ve been involved with that before in these threads, and I have no intention of getting thus involved again.
I’m sorry you think you know what I’ve said, but actually don’t; but I’m not sorry you have the attitude you do, or the opinions you have. They are not only causing you more harm than good, but they are causing me no harm at all.