These eleven congressmen, Republican conservatives all, just voted against the $51 billion package ( H. R. 3673) for the victims of Hurricane Katrina. Horrible human beings, all.
Rep. Joe Barton - TX
Jeff Flake - AZ
Virginia Foxx - NC
Scott Garrett - NJ
John Hostettler - IN
Steve King - IA
Butch Otter - ID
Ron Paul - TX
James Sensenbrenner - WI
Tom Tancredo - CO
Lynn Westmoreland - GA
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I thought you lived in Washington, Oliver?
Sure you know that Ron Paul is not a conservative. Maybe you honestly don’t know the difference between a libertarian and a conservative, but let me assure you there is a world of difference.
I heard about my state’s Rep. Tancredo this morning. Seems he thought the government of New Orleans was just too corrupt to be trusted with money, so he’d prefer to have somebody else dole it out like an allowance to a third-grader.
I live in Maryland, and am represented, thank God, by a progressive Democrat.
HI Tuco,
Go here, to Paul’s website and read the caption on the video about Paul’s opposition to Iraq:
“Congressman Paul and Congressman John Duncan of Tennessee discuss why true conservatives should oppose the undeclared and unnecessary war in Iraq.”
That said, he does appear to be a conservative of a different stripe…
evan
Right. A libertarian is a conservative who likes to smoke pot.
There is no such thing as a ‘real libertarian.’ Libertarianism is just the adult-version of being a Goth.
In reality, self-professed libertarians areusually GOPers who don’t want to have to defend their party’s kowtowing to the extreme religious right.
In Ron Paul’s defense, he’s a real libertarian– he ran for president on the libertarian party ticket in 1988, and he voted against the war in Iraq on libertarian grounds. He’s not a “I’m-a-libertarian-who-mindlessly-repeats-Republican-talking-points” phony.
Let’s see, how shall I put this delicately …
Fuck Ron Paul, and the entirety of the Libertarian horse he rode in on.
In times like these especially, I find the Libertarian philosophy to be morally indefensible.
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These guys are scum.
“Libertarianism is just the adult-version of being a Goth.”
HAHAHA! That’s funny because it’s true.
Months later they’ll be saying “I voted for the relief bill before I voted against it.”
Libertarianism, like communism, is one of those political philosophies you can really support when you believe that human beings can be counted on to behave like rational creatures.
Then you grow up.
Most of us do, anyway.
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wow, nice ‘Rogues Gallery’ –I do believe that these guys (I hate to use the term ‘gentleman’) have turned pandering into a fine art. Tancredo especially strikes me as a loose wingnut, after hearing his comments earlier this summer about dropping nukes on Mecca as a solution to our problems (Quaker in America, i’m sure you have plenty of war stories)–probably the kind of thing that plays well amongst his ‘base’…
the bizarre thing is that there’s some preening and positioning going on for 2008, and there’s a large group of Repugs, including Frist, Santorum, and wannabes like Tancredo, who fancy themselves to be Presidential material, so they are presumably ‘grooming’ themselves for the post–more than anything, this speaks volumes about these guy’s level of self-deception, and insulation from the ‘real world’ –lots of Dittoheads probably want to buy them a beer, but I predict that they won’t find the rest of this country so receptive!
These folks were wrong, period. However, Oliver (not the least bit surprising) and his “Republican conservatives all” was simply wrong.
Yesterday some of the leftist bloggers were praising those Dems that tried to hold up this bill in order to make some amendments to it in regards to FEMA. Apparently, their actions were equally as deplorable.
No Democrats voted against it.
So, it is alright to try to hold up a bill to score cheap political points, but it is wrong to vote against a bill because you do not agree with who will be distributing the monies? Politics … okay. Principles … wrong ?
Rep. Lynn Westmorland (R-GA) opposed the bill because there was no way to ensure accountability in the disbursement of funds. A fair point, I suppose, but is this case unique? He seems pretty sure that none of the $51 billion will actually go to help the affected areas but I’m not sure why.
Read what Scott Garrett had to say about the bill today. Sounds like he takes pride in the aid package. You sure he voted against it? If he did then he’s a complete slug.
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These eleven congressmen, Republican conservatives all, just voted against the $51 billion package (H. R. 3673) for the victims of Hurricane Katrina. Horrible human beings, all.
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Reading his comments again I see that he never actually praises the aid package. But the headline on his website implies that he supported the bill.
Hold it up?
I think you mean “offer amendments.” That would “hold up” the bill for all of about fourteen minutes. However, the Republican majority hogged the ball as usual.
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Can we see how these lovely people voted on, say, Alaska’s bridge to nowhere?
Callousness? Or Fiscal Accountability?
Oliver throws a hissy fit over the decisions of 11 representatives to vote against the $51 billion aid package to victims of Hurricane Katrina by listing their names and calling them:
Horrible human beings, all.
Because I honestly believe no Cong…
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“An army of truth-tellers”
Remember when the Right criticized Kerry for voting against an $87 billion dollar bill to fund the troops in Iraq. The Republicans ran campaign commercials accusing John Kerry of voting “against
“Can we see how these lovely people voted on, say, Alaska s bridge to nowhere?” … well, the Transportation bill passed the House 417-9 (HR 3). Flake, Paul, and Sensenbrenner voted against it. Odds are, your representative voted FOR that bridge to nowhere.
I don’t have the strong reaction that others have to the vote against the $50 billion bill. The text of the bill was unavaiable until _after_ the vote. It looks more like an unspecified raid on the treasury. Where’s the money going to go? (And, where’s it coming from?). Who’s controlling it? How will it be used? (Giant contracts to Halliburton, anyone?). The bill doesn’t even try to address the real problems in the areas of medical care or bankruptcy laws.
It’s a P.R. statement more than anything else. It could have been just another Patriot Act, with loads of heinous unconstitutional dreck in it; nobody knew. If I were up there, I would absolutely vote NO, until I at least had a chance to read the thing. After all, it wasn’t like anyone was going to die if the _bill_ waited a few days. Unlike the Bush gang’s vicious idiocy.
I think they should just drop huge bundles of twenties over the whole Gulf Coast area, until it adds up to $50 billion dollars.
Think of all the bureaucratic overhead it would save.
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In even more disturbing news, eleven congressmen voted against the $51 billion aid package for the victims of Hurricane Katrina. I pray that their constituents find out about this.
So, Oliver. How would you describe the actions of the 6 Democrat Representatives that voted against the 9-11 Resolution? I would have to assume that you would brand them “Horrible human beings, all” and “Democratic liberals all”.
Frank;
Your comments are brief for a calculating reason. ( Something else I know about you without laboratory evidence-Imagine the power of deductive reasoning!)
You do not elaborate on your ideas because the more you write, the larger the hole in your argument. Secondly, when you abreviate your bloviations you are deliberately creating an inference that you later can deny. “When did I say that? If that is what I meant, that’s what I would have said.”
That offers you the oportunity to suggest the responder is using faulty logic and the attack mode goes full blown.
So, do us all a favor; (”I think they should just drop bundles of twenties…”)
and stop taking refuge in your unimaginative one-liners. It’s is not helpful
to the discussion. Or is that your intent?.
So, now after three days, you speak for “all of us,”. Way to take the reins, Leo. And here I thought you liberals were all about that egalitarianism.
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I wrote a letter to the editor about this and Mr. Garrett didn’t like it, so he called me at home and asked me to recant.
Here’s the letter:
http://grotesquecorpse.blogspot.com/2005/09/my-congressman-voted-against-katrina.html
Here’s the discussion:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=167×2385
and
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/12/115215/418
I have to give Ron Paul a pass on this one. If a hurricane hit Orange County or some other Republican stronghold of rich white people, he’d vote against it, whereas the others probably wouldn’t. He’s wrong, but he’s consistent.
Here comes the story of the Hurricane
(after Dylan)
Cop alarms ring out in the bayou night
Enter Raymond Nagin from the City Hall.
He sees New Orleans washed away in the flood,
Cries out, “My God, Bush killed them all!”
Here comes the story of the Hurricane,
Now watch the authorit…
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