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		<title>By: Jay C</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/08/58/#comment-5894</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 18:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever Oliver&#039;s minions start referring to &quot;trolls&quot; then I know people are making good points. When they cannot respond with anything intelligent to say, they start blathering about the &quot;trolls.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever Oliver&#8217;s minions start referring to &#8220;trolls&#8221; then I know people are making good points. When they cannot respond with anything intelligent to say, they start blathering about the &#8220;trolls.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: SadieB</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/08/58/#comment-5893</link>
		<dc:creator>SadieB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 14:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silly JSVB, that was a Democratic president. Republicans don&#039;t &quot;do&quot; accountablity, everybody knows that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silly JSVB, that was a Democratic president. Republicans don&#8217;t &#8220;do&#8221; accountablity, everybody knows that.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/08/58/#comment-5892</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 06:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the Pew poll demonstrates is that 2/3 of the respondants don&#039;t understand the Constitution.

Tell you what ... if the Democrats are serious about &quot;doing something,&quot; then they need to propose a Constitutional ammendment that also gives the President unlimited power to usurp the jurisdiction of city and state governments, personally declare martial law and order the military invasion of US cities any time he declares a &quot;disaster&quot; to be in progress.

I&#039;m sure the Left &lt;i&gt;just can&#039;t wait&lt;/i&gt; to give good ol&#039; Chimpy McHitlerburton that kind of power, right?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the Pew poll demonstrates is that 2/3 of the respondants don&#8217;t understand the Constitution.</p>
<p>Tell you what &#8230; if the Democrats are serious about &#8220;doing something,&#8221; then they need to propose a Constitutional ammendment that also gives the President unlimited power to usurp the jurisdiction of city and state governments, personally declare martial law and order the military invasion of US cities any time he declares a &#8220;disaster&#8221; to be in progress.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the Left <i>just can&#8217;t wait</i> to give good ol&#8217; Chimpy McHitlerburton that kind of power, right?</p>
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		<title>By: JSVB</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/08/58/#comment-5891</link>
		<dc:creator>JSVB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 05:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to recall there being a saying about the office of the presidency...something about a buck, and it&#039;s stopping somewhere. Funny how the trolls don&#039;t seem to recall it at all...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to recall there being a saying about the office of the presidency&#8230;something about a buck, and it&#8217;s stopping somewhere. Funny how the trolls don&#8217;t seem to recall it at all&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hedley</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/08/58/#comment-5890</link>
		<dc:creator>Hedley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 05:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting NY Times &lt;a href=&quot;http://nytimes.com/2005/09/09/national/nationalspecial/09military.html?ei=5094&amp;en=29839ee3ffe8c2ba&amp;hp=&amp;ex=1126238400&amp;adxnnl=1&amp;partner=homepage&amp;pagewanted=print&amp;adxnnlx=1126237991-blFAibVW/R8h+8MuAENZDg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;article&lt;/a&gt; showing the complete breakdown of the emergency response structure, from top to bottom. Republicans and Democrats alike must take responsibility for their utter lack of foresight and communications that would be necessary for maximum rapid response.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting NY Times <a href="http://nytimes.com/2005/09/09/national/nationalspecial/09military.html?ei=5094&#038;en=29839ee3ffe8c2ba&#038;hp=&#038;ex=1126238400&#038;adxnnl=1&#038;partner=homepage&#038;pagewanted=print&#038;adxnnlx=1126237991-blFAibVW/R8h+8MuAENZDg" rel="nofollow">article</a> showing the complete breakdown of the emergency response structure, from top to bottom. Republicans and Democrats alike must take responsibility for their utter lack of foresight and communications that would be necessary for maximum rapid response.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay C</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/08/58/#comment-5889</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 01:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I have conceded that Lousiana s politicians werent perfect..&lt;/i&gt;

Wow! That&#039;s telling them Oliver!!

I need to sit down. Next time, please...hold back a little.

Jeebus H. Christ. They&#039;re actions and lack thereof were practically &lt;i&gt;criminal&lt;/i&gt; not just inadequate or in your totally freaking lame words, &quot;weren&#039;t perfect.&quot;  Your buddy Jesse is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pandagon.net/archives/2005/09/a_new_american.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;over here calling Nagin a &quot;hero.&quot;&lt;/a&gt;

And yes, Mike Brown is a frigging clueless hack that should be tossed out on his ear. This putz was heading up an agency that was sending checks to Florida homeowners for hurricane damages to their home that didn&#039;t exist.

But if the best you can do is say that state and local efforts in LA &quot;weren&#039;t perfect&quot;, then you have no right whatsoever to be calling others &#039;apologists.&#039;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I have conceded that Lousiana s politicians werent perfect..</i></p>
<p>Wow! That&#8217;s telling them Oliver!!</p>
<p>I need to sit down. Next time, please&#8230;hold back a little.</p>
<p>Jeebus H. Christ. They&#8217;re actions and lack thereof were practically <i>criminal</i> not just inadequate or in your totally freaking lame words, &#8220;weren&#8217;t perfect.&#8221;  Your buddy Jesse is <a href="http://www.pandagon.net/archives/2005/09/a_new_american.html" rel="nofollow">over here calling Nagin a &#8220;hero.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>And yes, Mike Brown is a frigging clueless hack that should be tossed out on his ear. This putz was heading up an agency that was sending checks to Florida homeowners for hurricane damages to their home that didn&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>But if the best you can do is say that state and local efforts in LA &#8220;weren&#8217;t perfect&#8221;, then you have no right whatsoever to be calling others &#8216;apologists.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: SadieB</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/08/58/#comment-5888</link>
		<dc:creator>SadieB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 23:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don t play that game. There are several things that he s done that I don t approve of. Which proves not a thing. &quot;

HA! I knew you couldn&#039;t do it. &quot;Several things,&quot; I love it, that&#039;s great. So lofty, so vague....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don t play that game. There are several things that he s done that I don t approve of. Which proves not a thing. &#8221;</p>
<p>HA! I knew you couldn&#8217;t do it. &#8220;Several things,&#8221; I love it, that&#8217;s great. So lofty, so vague&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/08/58/#comment-5887</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 21:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop it, Tuco.

I called you on this yesterday and I&#039;ll keep calling you on it until you choose to be honest in your comments.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The transcripts of his confirmation hearing show that Democrats supported his nomination.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You pointed us to a transcript of his confirmation to the post of &lt;i&gt;deputy&lt;/i&gt; director under Joe Allbaugh. At the time, he was already &lt;i&gt;acting&lt;/i&gt; deputy director. At that time, FEMA was still independent, not part of DHS which hadn&#039;t even been created yet.

Where&#039;s the transcript of his confirmation hearing to his current job, hm?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop it, Tuco.</p>
<p>I called you on this yesterday and I&#8217;ll keep calling you on it until you choose to be honest in your comments.</p>
<blockquote><p>The transcripts of his confirmation hearing show that Democrats supported his nomination.</p></blockquote>
<p>You pointed us to a transcript of his confirmation to the post of <i>deputy</i> director under Joe Allbaugh. At the time, he was already <i>acting</i> deputy director. At that time, FEMA was still independent, not part of DHS which hadn&#8217;t even been created yet.</p>
<p>Where&#8217;s the transcript of his confirmation hearing to his current job, hm?</p>
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		<title>By: Tuco Ramirez the Rat</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/08/58/#comment-5886</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuco Ramirez the Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 21:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But since you ve volunteered to start using clear and explicit language, do you consider it *proven* that Mike Brown is a hack with no experience who got his job just because he was Joe Allbaugh s college roommate? I think it is. Do you?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He got the job because of that...and because Senators of both parties assented to his appointment by a voice vote. The transcripts of his confirmation hearing show that Democrats supported his nomination. So don&#039;t give me any partisan crap about how they didn&#039;t have any choice. Democrats kissed his ass as much as Republicans did.

&lt;blockquote&gt;And Tuco, you could make your case a lot better if you would simply admit that George Bush has ever made one mistake ever. You can t do it. You simply aren t capable of it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Choke on it. I don&#039;t play that game. There are several things that he&#039;s done that I don&#039;t approve of. Which proves not a thing. This is not a zero-sum game and they&#039;re really not issues relevant to this situation.

Despite my disagreement with certain policies, as far as I&#039;m concerned having Bush in the White House is much preferable to, say, an Al Gore or a John Kerry, and that&#039;s all you need to know.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But since you ve volunteered to start using clear and explicit language, do you consider it *proven* that Mike Brown is a hack with no experience who got his job just because he was Joe Allbaugh s college roommate? I think it is. Do you?</p></blockquote>
<p>He got the job because of that&#8230;and because Senators of both parties assented to his appointment by a voice vote. The transcripts of his confirmation hearing show that Democrats supported his nomination. So don&#8217;t give me any partisan crap about how they didn&#8217;t have any choice. Democrats kissed his ass as much as Republicans did.</p>
<blockquote><p>And Tuco, you could make your case a lot better if you would simply admit that George Bush has ever made one mistake ever. You can t do it. You simply aren t capable of it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Choke on it. I don&#8217;t play that game. There are several things that he&#8217;s done that I don&#8217;t approve of. Which proves not a thing. This is not a zero-sum game and they&#8217;re really not issues relevant to this situation.</p>
<p>Despite my disagreement with certain policies, as far as I&#8217;m concerned having Bush in the White House is much preferable to, say, an Al Gore or a John Kerry, and that&#8217;s all you need to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuco Ramirez the Rat</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/08/58/#comment-5885</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuco Ramirez the Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 20:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously, in the first sentence of the post above I meant that 70% felt that the response of the state and local governments was INadequate.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, in the first sentence of the post above I meant that 70% felt that the response of the state and local governments was INadequate.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/08/58/#comment-5884</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 20:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have conceded that Lousiana&#039;s politicians werent perfect, but I tend to think that the leader of our nation - at some point - must accept responsibility for his actions. Another &quot;protect Bush no matter what the facts&quot; myth debunked.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have conceded that Lousiana&#8217;s politicians werent perfect, but I tend to think that the leader of our nation &#8211; at some point &#8211; must accept responsibility for his actions. Another &#8220;protect Bush no matter what the facts&#8221; myth debunked.</p>
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		<title>By: TomY</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/08/58/#comment-5883</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 20:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, Tuco, your attitude that anyone who criticizes Bush must immediately be mocked and attacked that kinda tipped me off that you weren&#039;t actually looking for the truth of the situation. Scoring political points, if you will. But since you&#039;ve volunteered to start using clear and explicit language, do you consider it *proven* that Mike Brown is a hack with no experience who got his job just because he was Joe Allbaugh&#039;s college roommate? I think it is. Do you?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, Tuco, your attitude that anyone who criticizes Bush must immediately be mocked and attacked that kinda tipped me off that you weren&#8217;t actually looking for the truth of the situation. Scoring political points, if you will. But since you&#8217;ve volunteered to start using clear and explicit language, do you consider it *proven* that Mike Brown is a hack with no experience who got his job just because he was Joe Allbaugh&#8217;s college roommate? I think it is. Do you?</p>
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		<title>By: Tuco Ramirez the Rat</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/08/58/#comment-5882</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuco Ramirez the Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 20:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TomY:

I&#039;m going to say one thing to you that I think will shut you up:

Can you find in which I stated, in clear and explicit language, that George Bush should be exempted from any responsibility if it is ever proven that should accept it?

Nope, didn&#039;t think so.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TomY:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to say one thing to you that I think will shut you up:</p>
<p>Can you find in which I stated, in clear and explicit language, that George Bush should be exempted from any responsibility if it is ever proven that should accept it?</p>
<p>Nope, didn&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: SadieB</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/08/58/#comment-5881</link>
		<dc:creator>SadieB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 20:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think anyone who demonstrated incompetence in the course of planning for or dealing with this tragedy should be held accountable.&quot;

What are you, TomY, some sort of good government liberal? Don&#039;t you know what we do to good government types here in Bush&#039;s America?

And Tuco, you could make your case a lot better if you would simply admit that George Bush has ever made one mistake ever. You can&#039;t do it. You simply aren&#039;t capable of it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think anyone who demonstrated incompetence in the course of planning for or dealing with this tragedy should be held accountable.&#8221;</p>
<p>What are you, TomY, some sort of good government liberal? Don&#8217;t you know what we do to good government types here in Bush&#8217;s America?</p>
<p>And Tuco, you could make your case a lot better if you would simply admit that George Bush has ever made one mistake ever. You can&#8217;t do it. You simply aren&#8217;t capable of it.</p>
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		<title>By: TomY</title>
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		<dc:creator>TomY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 20:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tuco&#039;s the only one making excuses for anyone. I think anyone who demonstrated incompetence in the course of planning for or dealing with this tragedy should be held accountable. Why is Bush exempt from this, Tuco? Were you on the cheerleading squad with him at Andover?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tuco&#8217;s the only one making excuses for anyone. I think anyone who demonstrated incompetence in the course of planning for or dealing with this tragedy should be held accountable. Why is Bush exempt from this, Tuco? Were you on the cheerleading squad with him at Andover?</p>
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		<title>By: Tuco Ramirez the Rat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tuco Ramirez the Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 20:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet, in this poll, 70% felt that the response of the state and local governments was adequate.

And in the CNN/USA Today, poll, 13% said President Bush is to blame for mishandling the disaster response.

And yet, Oliver mentions none of those things. And, unless I haven&#039;t read all of his posts today, I don&#039;t think that he has had a single word of criticism for any of the Democratic officials who shared resonsibility for that response.

This on a day that it became known that it wasn&#039;t FEMA or any other Federal agency keeping the Red Cross out of New Orleans, it was the Louisiana Department of Homeland Security.

Another &quot;blame Bush first&quot; myth debunked.

Oliver, when are you going to admit that members of both major political parties share the blame for how the disaster was handled?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet, in this poll, 70% felt that the response of the state and local governments was adequate.</p>
<p>And in the CNN/USA Today, poll, 13% said President Bush is to blame for mishandling the disaster response.</p>
<p>And yet, Oliver mentions none of those things. And, unless I haven&#8217;t read all of his posts today, I don&#8217;t think that he has had a single word of criticism for any of the Democratic officials who shared resonsibility for that response.</p>
<p>This on a day that it became known that it wasn&#8217;t FEMA or any other Federal agency keeping the Red Cross out of New Orleans, it was the Louisiana Department of Homeland Security.</p>
<p>Another &#8220;blame Bush first&#8221; myth debunked.</p>
<p>Oliver, when are you going to admit that members of both major political parties share the blame for how the disaster was handled?</p>
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		<title>By: SadieB</title>
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		<dc:creator>SadieB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 20:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG check out The Onion, everybody. They are simply brilliant as usual. The headlines are like: &quot;Officials uncertain whether to save or shoot victims&quot; &quot;Politicians applauding the excellent jobs they&#039;re doing,&quot; and &quot;Man drives food there his own goddamn self.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG check out The Onion, everybody. They are simply brilliant as usual. The headlines are like: &#8220;Officials uncertain whether to save or shoot victims&#8221; &#8220;Politicians applauding the excellent jobs they&#8217;re doing,&#8221; and &#8220;Man drives food there his own goddamn self.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tuco Ramirez the Rat</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/08/58/#comment-5877</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuco Ramirez the Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 20:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I&#039;m glad that you&#039;ve made that concession, and I&#039;m glad you included the qualifier &quot;at some point.&quot;

Because if you insisted that he do it now, while the relief effort is still in its early stages, I might have concluded that the only reason you wanted him to admit responsibility was to score political points.

At least it would seem that way to me.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I&#8217;m glad that you&#8217;ve made that concession, and I&#8217;m glad you included the qualifier &#8220;at some point.&#8221;</p>
<p>Because if you insisted that he do it now, while the relief effort is still in its early stages, I might have concluded that the only reason you wanted him to admit responsibility was to score political points.</p>
<p>At least it would seem that way to me.</p>
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