Oliver Willis

12 Responses to “Smoking Gun”

1. 1 TomY
   Sep 1st, 2005 at 6:09 pm

   Cue the cons: “But Bush did the best he could!!!! It’s not the prezzident’s job to plan for distaastersss!!! Americans don’t deserve anyone who can do better!!! Liberals are to blame!!!!

2. 2 JD
   Sep 1st, 2005 at 7:09 pm

   “Some of us would categorize this as a high crime”

   I am sure that some of you would, but that would not make it so.

3. 3 JD
   Sep 1st, 2005 at 7:09 pm

   Bid Laden plans to strike America, and Bush goes on vaction. I suppose the proper response would have been to sit in the Oval Office for as long as Osama harbors those wishes?Yet another, vacuous left wing talking point.

   Do you really believe that intelligence that said Osama wanted to strike the US was news to anybody in the military or intelligence community? That had been his stated goal for quite some time. A statement like that is the equivalent of saying “the Boston Red Sox vow to beat the New York Yankees”. Nothing new there. No surprise. Nothing that makes anybody wonder what happened that made Boston want to beat New York.

4. 4 outer_space
   Sep 1st, 2005 at 7:09 pm

   Bush fucks up on hurricane relief, why are you changing the subject to 9/11 and as if he didn’t fuck that one up?

5. 5 TomY
   Sep 1st, 2005 at 7:09 pm

   He fucked up both, (not to mention hurricane preparedness) and these guys, as usual, put party over country. Because they are whores.

6. 6 JD
   Sep 1st, 2005 at 8:09 pm

   Outer space : Apparently you did not read Oliver’s post.

7. 7 evergreen
   Sep 1st, 2005 at 8:09 pm

   It just bears repeating:

   “you know, when they were removing Terry Schiavo’s feeding tube, Congress got back in session on a Sunday night to pass some sort of a resolution. Here, they might get back on Friday — the storm hit Monday. I guess it’s all what’s important to you…”

   meanwhile…people are starving to death in the fucking streets….

   Treasonous incompetence. Put these worthless fucks in jail and throw away the fucking key.

8. 8 rightisright
   Sep 1st, 2005 at 9:09 pm

   “A fact sheet issued by the Corps in May said that seven construction projects in New Orleans had been stalled for lack of funding. It noted that the budget proposed by
   President Bush for 2005 was $3 million and termed that amount insufficient to fund new construction contracts.

   “We could spend $20 million if the funds were provided,” the fact sheet said. Two major pump stations needed to be protected against hurricane storm surges, the fact sheet said, but the budgets for 2005 and 2006 “will prevent the corps from addressing these pressing needs.”

   Acknowledging delays in construction, Corps officials in Louisiana said that those projects weren’t where the failures occurred. “They did not contribute to the flooding of the city,” said Al Naomi, a senior project manage ”

   Quote taken from here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/krwashbureau/20050902/ts_krwashbureau/_wea_katrina_levee

   Let me reemphasize the money quote here:

   Acknowledging delays in construction, Corps officials in Louisiana said that those projects weren’t where the failures occurred. “They did not contribute to the flooding of the city,” said Al Naomi, a senior project manage ”

   But don’t let the facts get in the way of your argument. Liberals seldom do.

9. 9 phile
   Sep 1st, 2005 at 10:09 pm

   From an article By Michael Behar - May 2005

   The Saffir-Simpson hurricane scale defines a category-5 storm as one with “winds greater than 155 miles per hour and storm surge generally greater than 18 feet.” Although hurricanes of this magnitude slamming directly into New Orleans are extremely rare occurring perhaps every 500 to 1,000 years should one come ashore, the resulting storm surge would swell Lake Pontchartrain (a brackish sea adjoining the Gulf of Mexico), overtop the levees, and submerge the city under up to 40 feet of water. Once this happened, the levees would “serve as a bathtub,” explains Harley Winer, chief of coastal engineering for the Army Corps s New Orleans District. The water would get trapped between the Mississippi levees and the hurricane-protection levees. “This is a highly improbable event,” Winer points out, “but within the realm of possibility.”

   New Orleans has nearly completed its Hurricane Protection Project, a $740-million plan led by Naomi to ring the city with levees that could shield residents from up to category-3 storm surges. Meanwhile, Winer and others at the Army Corps are considering a new levee system capable of holding back a surge from a category-5 hurricane like Ivan, which threatened the city last year.

   To determine exactly where and how high to build these levees, the engineers have enlisted the aid of a 3-D computer-simulation program called ADCIRC (Advanced Circulation Model). ADCIRC incorporates dozens of data points including seabed and coastal topography, wind speed, tidal variation, ocean depth and water temperature and charts a precise map of where the storm surge would inundate New Orleans. The category-5 levee idea, though, is still in the early planning stages; it may be decades before the new barriers are completed. Until then, locals had better keep praying to Helios.

   http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:OvtudVKFeosJ:www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,20967,1049488,00.html+army+corps+of+engineer+levee+new+orleans&hl=en

   If there’s one thing you can count on from Bush haters, it’s that they seldom do their homework before making their ridiculous pronouncements.

10. 10 phile
    Sep 1st, 2005 at 10:09 pm

    Oliver, it appears you need to filter link text to a maximum number of chars, to avoid allowing people like myself to inadvertently break you site.

11. 11 TomY
    Sep 1st, 2005 at 11:09 pm

    So& that explains why defunding the levees was good, I take it? No? In fact, it describes how a category 5 storm surge would top the levees and fill the city. What happened this week was a storm surge briefly topped a levee, but then eroded it, so this article doesn t apply. If that levee had had the funds to be properly maintained, it might have maintained integrity.

    Anyway, your fatalistic  there was nothing anyone could do really doesn t translate into  Bush should have cut levee funding. Bush should have increased levee funding, and now it s too late. And you think it s okay, you prostitute, because you put your president s poll numbers over the lives of your fellow citizens.

12. 12 neoconsrloopy
    Sep 2nd, 2005 at 9:09 am

    Again, the con alternative is since you can’t upgrade the levees to Cat5 strength, you do nothing. No sale here. Peddle those lies on Fox. Or is that where they were peddled to you?

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