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		<title>By: EricBrian</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/31/katrina-leadership/#comment-4866</link>
		<dc:creator>EricBrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 17:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>frameone, don&#039;t listen to JK, it is alway OK to criticize Bush and others as incompetent as that might spur them on to actually get something done.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>frameone, don&#8217;t listen to JK, it is alway OK to criticize Bush and others as incompetent as that might spur them on to actually get something done.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/31/katrina-leadership/#comment-4865</link>
		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 13:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Okay, Jk. Please inform us when it s okay to criticize Bush.

Three posts above this one, you&#039;re not criticizing Bush in the immediate aftermath of the storm and (what I think, at least) for an obvious lack of a quick federal response, you&#039;re talking about &quot;what might have been.&quot;

This morning, the Mayor of New Orleans laid into the Fed&#039;s for lack of response.  He&#039;s furious. Rightfully so, IMO. The Fed&#039;s have been remarkably absent 5 days into this disaster.

It&#039;s just not productive to talk about what happened three friggin&#039; years ago, is all I&#039;m saying. There will be a time for that.

JK
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>>Okay, Jk. Please inform us when it s okay to criticize Bush.</p>
<p>Three posts above this one, you&#8217;re not criticizing Bush in the immediate aftermath of the storm and (what I think, at least) for an obvious lack of a quick federal response, you&#8217;re talking about &#8220;what might have been.&#8221;</p>
<p>This morning, the Mayor of New Orleans laid into the Fed&#8217;s for lack of response.  He&#8217;s furious. Rightfully so, IMO. The Fed&#8217;s have been remarkably absent 5 days into this disaster.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just not productive to talk about what happened three friggin&#8217; years ago, is all I&#8217;m saying. There will be a time for that.</p>
<p>JK</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/31/katrina-leadership/#comment-4864</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean god forbid anyone should put some pressure on the president to actually come up with a fucking plan to deal with this nightmare.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean god forbid anyone should put some pressure on the president to actually come up with a fucking plan to deal with this nightmare.</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/31/katrina-leadership/#comment-4863</link>
		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This ain t the time.&quot;

Okay, Jk. Please inform us when it&#039;s okay to criticize Bush.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This ain t the time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay, Jk. Please inform us when it&#8217;s okay to criticize Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/31/katrina-leadership/#comment-4862</link>
		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;You frigging people are more transparent than a sheet of plastic wrap.

Hmmm....I have seen plastic wrap that&#039;s kind of tough to see through, Jay.

Generally acknowledged, that George W. Bush is the least intelligent, most incompetent President in our lifetime, I will admit there is nothing that George W. Bush could have done to prevent Mother Nature&#039;s fury this past week.

It isn&#039;t very productive at this stage to play the blame game. People need help.

I love a good scrap. This ain&#039;t the time.

JK
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>>You frigging people are more transparent than a sheet of plastic wrap.</p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230;.I have seen plastic wrap that&#8217;s kind of tough to see through, Jay.</p>
<p>Generally acknowledged, that George W. Bush is the least intelligent, most incompetent President in our lifetime, I will admit there is nothing that George W. Bush could have done to prevent Mother Nature&#8217;s fury this past week.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t very productive at this stage to play the blame game. People need help.</p>
<p>I love a good scrap. This ain&#8217;t the time.</p>
<p>JK</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/31/katrina-leadership/#comment-4861</link>
		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JD you are truly a deadender:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050901/pl_nm/weather_katrina_funding_dc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050901/pl_nm/weather_katrina_funding_dc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050901/pl_nm/weather_katrina_funding_dc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

The former head of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, the agency that handles the infrastructure of the nation&#039;s waterways, said the damage in New Orleans probably would have been much less extensive had flood-control efforts been fully funded over the years.

&quot;Levees would have been higher, levees would have been bigger, there would have been other pumps put in,&quot; said Mike Parker, a former Mississippi congressman who headed the engineering agency from 2001 to 2002.

&quot;I&#039;m not saying it would have been totally alleviated but it would have been less than the damage that we have got now.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD you are truly a deadender:<br />
<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050901/pl_nm/weather_katrina_funding_dc" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050901/pl_nm/weather_katrina_funding_dc" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050901/pl_nm/weather_katrina_funding_dc</a></p>
<p>The former head of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, the agency that handles the infrastructure of the nation&#8217;s waterways, said the damage in New Orleans probably would have been much less extensive had flood-control efforts been fully funded over the years.</p>
<p>&#8220;Levees would have been higher, levees would have been bigger, there would have been other pumps put in,&#8221; said Mike Parker, a former Mississippi congressman who headed the engineering agency from 2001 to 2002.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m not saying it would have been totally alleviated but it would have been less than the damage that we have got now.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/31/katrina-leadership/#comment-4860</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 00:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me see ... apparently we will have to break this down into really simple terms for you to be able to comprehend it.  Army Corps of Engineers requests funding for a STUDY in 2003-2004, that would not have been completed for another 3 years, in the future, ya know.   Then, a catastrophic storm hits the area that the study would have covered.  Since the study was not yet due to be completed for another 3 years, it is safe to assume that the conclusion, and action on the conclusions, would not have started until at least 2008, three years into the future.  It is also safe to assume that if they were planning on reinforcing, rebuilding, or otherwise upgrading the existing system, it would be a fairly significant undertaking, and would not be completed immediately.  On a good, old fashioned government timetable, being quite generous, let us assume that all of the hypothetical improvements, reinforcements, etc ... were completed in 2 years.  That would be 2010, 5 years into the future.  Maybe I am missing something, but I fail to see how a project, than in a best case scenario would have been completed sometime in 2010, could have helped save one life in 2005.

While they are at in, I think they should make all levees able to withstand a direct impact of a Cat 9 hurricane.  After all, though it has not happend yet, one might conceive of it happening in the future.

Do you really believe that it is government&#039;s job to act for the worst case scenario, or would taking actions based on the most likely or probable scenario be more appropriate?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me see &#8230; apparently we will have to break this down into really simple terms for you to be able to comprehend it.  Army Corps of Engineers requests funding for a STUDY in 2003-2004, that would not have been completed for another 3 years, in the future, ya know.   Then, a catastrophic storm hits the area that the study would have covered.  Since the study was not yet due to be completed for another 3 years, it is safe to assume that the conclusion, and action on the conclusions, would not have started until at least 2008, three years into the future.  It is also safe to assume that if they were planning on reinforcing, rebuilding, or otherwise upgrading the existing system, it would be a fairly significant undertaking, and would not be completed immediately.  On a good, old fashioned government timetable, being quite generous, let us assume that all of the hypothetical improvements, reinforcements, etc &#8230; were completed in 2 years.  That would be 2010, 5 years into the future.  Maybe I am missing something, but I fail to see how a project, than in a best case scenario would have been completed sometime in 2010, could have helped save one life in 2005.</p>
<p>While they are at in, I think they should make all levees able to withstand a direct impact of a Cat 9 hurricane.  After all, though it has not happend yet, one might conceive of it happening in the future.</p>
<p>Do you really believe that it is government&#8217;s job to act for the worst case scenario, or would taking actions based on the most likely or probable scenario be more appropriate?</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/31/katrina-leadership/#comment-4859</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 00:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think EricBrian&#039;s post exemplifies quite well what many on the right suspect about the left.  This is a sad day, a sad week for America.  It is sad because hundreds and thousands and even millions of our brothers, sisters, mothers, father, etc... were the victims of one the largest natural disasters to hit the US in our history.  However, folks like EricBrian think it is sad because of a perceived lack of leadership on behalf of the President, rather than because of the human toll this natural disaster has taken.  It is becoming even more sad that a time like this, we cannot all find a way to work together.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think EricBrian&#8217;s post exemplifies quite well what many on the right suspect about the left.  This is a sad day, a sad week for America.  It is sad because hundreds and thousands and even millions of our brothers, sisters, mothers, father, etc&#8230; were the victims of one the largest natural disasters to hit the US in our history.  However, folks like EricBrian think it is sad because of a perceived lack of leadership on behalf of the President, rather than because of the human toll this natural disaster has taken.  It is becoming even more sad that a time like this, we cannot all find a way to work together.</p>
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		<title>By: EricBrian</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/31/katrina-leadership/#comment-4858</link>
		<dc:creator>EricBrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 00:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there will be Republican in both House and Senate who will start to distance themselves from Idiot Bush for his failure to lead this country in time of disaster. That man needs to be removed from his post.

Another sad day... week in the history of the United States.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there will be Republican in both House and Senate who will start to distance themselves from Idiot Bush for his failure to lead this country in time of disaster. That man needs to be removed from his post.</p>
<p>Another sad day&#8230; week in the history of the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: TomY</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/31/katrina-leadership/#comment-4857</link>
		<dc:creator>TomY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 22:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Explain to me how you are so certain that none of Bush&#039;s spending cuts had any effect on the situation.
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		<title>By: TomY</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/31/katrina-leadership/#comment-4856</link>
		<dc:creator>TomY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 21:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is less than 72 hours after one of the largest, if not the largest natrual disasters in our nation s history, yet you have no compunction about completely absolving the president. And in this case, the president has been stripping levee funding. What else is there to say?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is less than 72 hours after one of the largest, if not the largest natrual disasters in our nation s history, yet you have no compunction about completely absolving the president. And in this case, the president has been stripping levee funding. What else is there to say?</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/31/katrina-leadership/#comment-4855</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 21:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What else is there to say?  Explain to me how funding for a STUDY scheduled to be completed 3 freaking years from now, would have changed one single thing that happened in this disaster.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What else is there to say?  Explain to me how funding for a STUDY scheduled to be completed 3 freaking years from now, would have changed one single thing that happened in this disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: Jadegold</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/31/katrina-leadership/#comment-4854</link>
		<dc:creator>Jadegold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 20:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;This is the end for George W. Bush.&lt;/i&gt;

Wait &#039;til Rove and crew spin it.  I can see it now: &#039;It was good the levees failed. Levees hate our freedoms. Levee sounds French.&#039;
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<p>Wait &#8217;til Rove and crew spin it.  I can see it now: &#8216;It was good the levees failed. Levees hate our freedoms. Levee sounds French.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/31/katrina-leadership/#comment-4853</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 20:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pray tell exactly how this will be the end of his Presidency.  Is there going to be a coup?  Recall? Impeachment?  Resignation?

It is less than 72 hours after one of the largest, if not the largest natrual disasters in our nation&#039;s history, yet you have no compunction about assessing blame.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pray tell exactly how this will be the end of his Presidency.  Is there going to be a coup?  Recall? Impeachment?  Resignation?</p>
<p>It is less than 72 hours after one of the largest, if not the largest natrual disasters in our nation&#8217;s history, yet you have no compunction about assessing blame.</p>
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		<title>By: TomY</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/31/katrina-leadership/#comment-4852</link>
		<dc:creator>TomY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 19:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I don t think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees.
-George W. Bush, Sept 1, 2005

This is the end for George W. Bush.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I don t think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees.<br />
-George W. Bush, Sept 1, 2005</p>
<p>This is the end for George W. Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/31/katrina-leadership/#comment-4851</link>
		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 18:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What I see from the right side of the blogosphere is a huge effort to get help to the affected areas.&quot;

And I&#039;ve seen blogs on the left and the right posting links to relief agencies and other assistance. FEMA itself has a website that&#039;s pretty much one stop shopping for federal disaster relief. What&#039;s missing? The fact that 25,000 people in the superdome don&#039;t have internet access. Is anyone bringing WiFi laptops to the Superdome (as if the networks were still up) so all these people can get access to blogs? I heard a story on NPR about a HAM radio operator in Kansas who was helping direct rescue information in New Orleans, literally communicating where people were to rescue helicopters. Can a blog help if someone doesn&#039;t have an internet connection? Of course people could always loot a laptop along with food and water. Then again, that would get Sean HAnnity on their ass.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What I see from the right side of the blogosphere is a huge effort to get help to the affected areas.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve seen blogs on the left and the right posting links to relief agencies and other assistance. FEMA itself has a website that&#8217;s pretty much one stop shopping for federal disaster relief. What&#8217;s missing? The fact that 25,000 people in the superdome don&#8217;t have internet access. Is anyone bringing WiFi laptops to the Superdome (as if the networks were still up) so all these people can get access to blogs? I heard a story on NPR about a HAM radio operator in Kansas who was helping direct rescue information in New Orleans, literally communicating where people were to rescue helicopters. Can a blog help if someone doesn&#8217;t have an internet connection? Of course people could always loot a laptop along with food and water. Then again, that would get Sean HAnnity on their ass.</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/31/katrina-leadership/#comment-4850</link>
		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 18:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My point was, and is, that no matter the level of government involvement, crises as huge as this require everyone to pitch in.&quot;

Phile, might I ask you if you feel that whining and bitching about the left&#039;s whining and bitching is an appropriate use of your own time in this crisis? At the same time, I live and work full time in Los Angeles. I&#039;ve given as much money as I can afford and will give more again when I can. What else do you want me to do?

And neocon has it right. Between do something to improve the quality of the levees and hindering that effort, Bush chose to hinder it. It&#039;s that simple.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My point was, and is, that no matter the level of government involvement, crises as huge as this require everyone to pitch in.&#8221;</p>
<p>Phile, might I ask you if you feel that whining and bitching about the left&#8217;s whining and bitching is an appropriate use of your own time in this crisis? At the same time, I live and work full time in Los Angeles. I&#8217;ve given as much money as I can afford and will give more again when I can. What else do you want me to do?</p>
<p>And neocon has it right. Between do something to improve the quality of the levees and hindering that effort, Bush chose to hinder it. It&#8217;s that simple.</p>
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		<title>By: phile</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/31/katrina-leadership/#comment-4849</link>
		<dc:creator>phile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 17:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The government has a huge responsibility in times of crisis like this. Are you expecting provate citizens to relocate, house, feed and assist the 25,000 people in the Superdome?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m hesistant to accuse you of deliberately misunderstanding my remarks. Of course, the federal and state governments have huge roles and responsibilites, in dealing with this crisis. I never implied otherwise. My point was, and is, that no matter the level of government involvement, crises as huge as this require everyone to pitch in. What I have seen from the left blogosphere is pitiful. It&#039;s mostly just whining, bitching, and finding ways to blame Bush and his administration for all this misery. What I see from the right side of the blogosphere is a huge effort to get help to the affected areas.

As for this new talking-point on levee funding: I&#039;m still waiting for someone  to explain what the cut in funding would have done to help avoid what we are seeing today. What contigency projects - that would have enabled the levee to breeze through the strom surge cause by a cat 4 or 5 hurricane - were not done as a result of lack of funds? I hear a lot of talk about cutting funds, but I hear no engineers screaming about how they had the solution, but no money to implement it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The government has a huge responsibility in times of crisis like this. Are you expecting provate citizens to relocate, house, feed and assist the 25,000 people in the Superdome?</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m hesistant to accuse you of deliberately misunderstanding my remarks. Of course, the federal and state governments have huge roles and responsibilites, in dealing with this crisis. I never implied otherwise. My point was, and is, that no matter the level of government involvement, crises as huge as this require everyone to pitch in. What I have seen from the left blogosphere is pitiful. It&#8217;s mostly just whining, bitching, and finding ways to blame Bush and his administration for all this misery. What I see from the right side of the blogosphere is a huge effort to get help to the affected areas.</p>
<p>As for this new talking-point on levee funding: I&#8217;m still waiting for someone  to explain what the cut in funding would have done to help avoid what we are seeing today. What contigency projects &#8211; that would have enabled the levee to breeze through the strom surge cause by a cat 4 or 5 hurricane &#8211; were not done as a result of lack of funds? I hear a lot of talk about cutting funds, but I hear no engineers screaming about how they had the solution, but no money to implement it.</p>
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		<title>By: neoconsrloopy</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/31/katrina-leadership/#comment-4848</link>
		<dc:creator>neoconsrloopy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 17:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the alternative to upgrading the levees so that they could effectively handle a Cat 3 surge is---- do nothing.  Got it.

Kind of like the response to the 9/11 warnings- we can&#039;t POSSIBLY know EXACTLY WHEN and WHERE the hijackers will attack, so we&#039;re just going to go to Crawford and do nothing.

You wingnuts always come up with these false choices- in Iraq, it&#039;s either &quot;Stay the Course&quot; or &quot;Cut and Run&quot;.  Nothing in the middle, like setting a timetable for withdrawl.

Here we have &quot;Since we can&#039;t prepare for EVERYTHING that may happen, let&#039;s do nothing.&quot;  That&#039;s a false choice.  Taking the steps suggested by ACE probably would have mitigated the tragedy, and maybe would eliminate the risks altogther.  Rational people know that you can&#039;t always safeguard people, but you do what you can hoping the steps you take help.

Instead of having a real discussion and investigation of what could have been done to better prepare for this disaster, and therefore the next disaster, the wingnuts Make Excuses for Bush first.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the alternative to upgrading the levees so that they could effectively handle a Cat 3 surge is&#8212;- do nothing.  Got it.</p>
<p>Kind of like the response to the 9/11 warnings- we can&#8217;t POSSIBLY know EXACTLY WHEN and WHERE the hijackers will attack, so we&#8217;re just going to go to Crawford and do nothing.</p>
<p>You wingnuts always come up with these false choices- in Iraq, it&#8217;s either &#8220;Stay the Course&#8221; or &#8220;Cut and Run&#8221;.  Nothing in the middle, like setting a timetable for withdrawl.</p>
<p>Here we have &#8220;Since we can&#8217;t prepare for EVERYTHING that may happen, let&#8217;s do nothing.&#8221;  That&#8217;s a false choice.  Taking the steps suggested by ACE probably would have mitigated the tragedy, and maybe would eliminate the risks altogther.  Rational people know that you can&#8217;t always safeguard people, but you do what you can hoping the steps you take help.</p>
<p>Instead of having a real discussion and investigation of what could have been done to better prepare for this disaster, and therefore the next disaster, the wingnuts Make Excuses for Bush first.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/31/katrina-leadership/#comment-4847</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 17:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TomY : I think if you looked at the evidence available, you would see that the funding requests were for additional work at Cat 3 level preparedness.  Clearly, even a Cat 3 level of preparedness would have been insufficient for this natural disaster.  Additionally, it looks like the studies alone that were requested for additional work would not have been scheduled to have been completed until 2008.  How again is this President Bush&#039;s fault ?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TomY : I think if you looked at the evidence available, you would see that the funding requests were for additional work at Cat 3 level preparedness.  Clearly, even a Cat 3 level of preparedness would have been insufficient for this natural disaster.  Additionally, it looks like the studies alone that were requested for additional work would not have been scheduled to have been completed until 2008.  How again is this President Bush&#8217;s fault ?</p>
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