Desperate

6:08 pm EST August 24th, 2005 | Republicans | 12 Comments

The American Legion is prepping a crackdown on protests, while Bush has searched around and found someone to “counter” Cindy Sheehan’s powerful story.

This sort of thing doesn’t happen when a conflict enjoys popular support. Up until now the administration has made do by screaming “support the troops” and having everyone whimper and go away. But the old tricks aren’t working, you can see that when they rolled out hatchet man Dan Bartlett to the morning news shows a couple days ago. I’m just wondering now when Karen Hughes will pop up, or if Cheney will make another one of his Vaderesque speeches that are designed to scare us half to death.

It’s not working, and they’ve got no way out. Prepare for more disaster.

We need an opposition party in times like this. Where are the Democrats? Come out of your caves.

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12 Responses to “Desperate”

  1. Say Anything » Left Smears The American Legion says:
    August 24, 2005 at 8:08 pm

    [...] vow to stand against people Cindy Sheehan is being hyped by the likes of Markos Zuniga and Oliver Willis: NEW YORK The American Legion, which has 2.7 million members, has declared war o [...]

  2. Joseph Hughes says:
    August 24, 2005 at 8:08 pm

    What’s more, President Bush basically said today that we’d be in Iraq until at least 2009.

  3. Brandon says:
    August 24, 2005 at 10:08 pm

    What’s more, we’ve been in Germany for over 50 years after the conclusion of WWII.

    What’s more, we’ve been in Korea for over 50 years after the conclusion of the Korean War.

  4. Fuming Mucker says:
    August 24, 2005 at 11:08 pm

    Gee, Brandon… why were we in Germany for 50 years? And your answer better not have anything to do with keeping the German insurgency under control.

  5. SaveFarris says:
    August 25, 2005 at 8:08 am

    We need an opposition party in times like this. Where are the Democrats?

    They can read polls just like anyone else.

  6. O.Y.E. says:
    August 25, 2005 at 9:08 am

    The American Legion seems to be mighty fickle when it comes to supporting presidents during wartime:

    American Legion
    Letter to President Clinton
    May 5, 1999

    Dear Mr. President:

    The American Legion, a wartime veterans organization of nearly three-million members, urges the immediate withdrawal of American troops participating in “Operation Allied Force.”

    The National Executive Committee of The American Legion, meeting in Indianapolis today, adopted Resolution 44, titled “The American Legion’s Statement on Yugoslavia.” This resolution was debated and adopted unanimously.

    Mr. President, the United States Armed Forces should never be committed to wartime operations unless the following conditions are fulfilled:

    - That there be a clear statement by the President of why it is in our vital national interests to be engaged in hostilities;
    - Guidelines be established for the mission, including a clear exit strategy;
    - That there be support of the mission by the U.S. Congress and the American people; and
    - That it be made clear that U.S. Forces will be commanded only by U.S. officers whom we acknowledge are superior military leaders.

    It is the opinion of The American Legion, which I am sure is shared by the majority of Americans, that three of the above listed conditions have not been met in the current joint operation with NATO (“Operation Allied Force”).

    In no case should America commit its Armed Forces in the absence of clearly defined objectives agreed upon by the U.S. Congress in accordance with Article I, Section 8, of the Constitution of the United States.

    Sincerely,
    Harold L. “Butch” Miller,
    National Commander

  7. elrod says:
    August 25, 2005 at 9:08 am

    Nudnik,
    We were in West Germany to counter a threat from outside West Germany. How many West Germans were killed by Communist guerrilla war after WWII? The only violence was the Baider-Mainhof gang in the 1970s. US troops in Japan and West Germany faced a completely pacified public after WWII. US troops in Iraq do not. End of analogy.

  8. nudnik says:
    August 25, 2005 at 9:08 am

    Fuming,

    We were in Germany to counter a threat to the West from a totalitarian ideology. Sounds familiar, no?

  9. nudnik says:
    August 25, 2005 at 10:08 am

    elrod,

    we are in Iraq to confront a threat to the West that is not just in Iraq but outside it (Saudi Arabia, Iran, Hizbullah, etc. – all part of the same ideology). The terrorists in Iraq are part of the same ideology.

    And th eonly reason that we faced a pacified public in Germany and Japan is because we bombed the shit out of them for four years. Had we waged the same type of war in Iraq that we waged in WWII, the Iraqis would also have been pacified.

  10. Fuming Mucker says:
    August 25, 2005 at 11:08 am

    We were in Germany to intimidate the communists in the Soviet Union and their satellites. But… onto more recent conflicts:

    Bush has spent too much money and blood and entangled the United States’ military in a briarpatch of shifting rationale. I wouldn’t mind meeting the cost if Iraq sent us a couple of senators and some representatives… still…

    The Cubans must be pissed that the Iraqi’s jumped to the front of the line like that.

  11. BinkyBoy says:
    August 25, 2005 at 5:08 pm

    If only we had bombed them some more, they wouldn’t be so damn angry with us.

    Wow… Just frigging wow. Nudnik, you’re way up there in the eschalon of idiots.

  12. SadieB says:
    August 25, 2005 at 11:08 pm

    Ummm, I thought we were in Germany for fifty years because we rebuilt it? Didn’t we pour billions of dollars into getting them back on their feet, via the Marshall Plan? I have to point this out because of armchair generals like our friend numnik here, who thinks the answer to securing peace is to bomb the shit out of people. The Marshall Plan demonstrated that nothing could be further from the truth.