Comments on: Why Is The Washington Times Meeting With Dictators? http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/17/why-is-the-washington-times-meeting-with-dictators/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:30:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Dugger http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/17/why-is-the-washington-times-meeting-with-dictators/#comment-4302 Dugger Fri, 19 Aug 2005 20:08:32 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=304#comment-4302 Yes. Major combat "was". Yes. Major combat “was”.

]]> By: mr.curmudgeon http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/17/why-is-the-washington-times-meeting-with-dictators/#comment-4301 mr.curmudgeon Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:08:24 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=304#comment-4301 <i>Major combat in Iraq was a cake walk compared to what would be required in NK.</i> Was? Major combat in Iraq was a cake walk compared to what would be required in NK.

Was?

]]> By: Dugger http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/17/why-is-the-washington-times-meeting-with-dictators/#comment-4300 Dugger Fri, 19 Aug 2005 15:08:48 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=304#comment-4300 "Similar circumstances do not exist in NK." True, China is/was a lot bigger and much more dangerous. But if we could bring, say, the Mideast into the 20th century by playing ping pong or whatever, it would beat whats happening now. N. Korea looks about to be the last really ideologically blinded-mindless, potentially dangerous dictatorship out there. Major combat in Iraq was a cake walk compared to what would be required in NK. I'm for any and all steps that open them up - whether from Rev Moon or Soleil Moon Frye. Dugger “Similar circumstances do not exist in NK.”

True, China is/was a lot bigger and much more dangerous. But if we could bring, say, the Mideast into the 20th century by playing ping pong or whatever, it would beat whats happening now. N. Korea looks about to be the last really ideologically blinded-mindless, potentially dangerous dictatorship out there. Major combat in Iraq was a cake walk compared to what would be required in NK. I’m for any and all steps that open them up – whether from Rev Moon or Soleil Moon Frye.

Dugger

]]> By: Joshua Gaines http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/17/why-is-the-washington-times-meeting-with-dictators/#comment-4299 Joshua Gaines Thu, 18 Aug 2005 21:08:05 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=304#comment-4299 Geostrategic concerns predicated our relationship with China. From a realist perspective, it made sense to cozy up to China because of its proximity to the USSR. Similar circumstances do not exist in NK. Therefore, it would be wrong to open up to North Korea, from either a realist or a moral perspective. Geostrategic concerns predicated our relationship with China. From a realist perspective, it made sense to cozy up to China because of its proximity to the USSR. Similar circumstances do not exist in NK. Therefore, it would be wrong to open up to North Korea, from either a realist or a moral perspective.

]]> By: LaurenceIFOC http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/17/why-is-the-washington-times-meeting-with-dictators/#comment-4298 LaurenceIFOC Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:08:26 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=304#comment-4298 Unlike CNN's Eason Jordan, who paid Saddam Hussein for "access" to propaganda produced by his regime, it appears that the Times did not pick up the tab for this event. Unlike CNN’s Eason Jordan, who paid Saddam Hussein for “access” to propaganda produced by his regime, it appears that the Times did not pick up the tab for this event.

]]> By: neoconsrloopy http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/17/why-is-the-washington-times-meeting-with-dictators/#comment-4297 neoconsrloopy Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:08:08 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=304#comment-4297 Eason Jordan also don't think he's the messiah unlike your cult leader friend. Point? Eason Jordan also don’t think he’s the messiah unlike your cult leader friend. Point?

]]> By: neoconsrloopy http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/17/why-is-the-washington-times-meeting-with-dictators/#comment-4296 neoconsrloopy Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:08:11 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=304#comment-4296 Quaker, it's funny the level of outrage shown to Dan Rather for interviewing Hussein, but there was no RW handwringing when REAGAN/BUSH sold them WMD's. Interesting, isn't it? Quaker, it’s funny the level of outrage shown to Dan Rather for interviewing Hussein, but there was no RW handwringing when REAGAN/BUSH sold them WMD’s. Interesting, isn’t it?

]]> By: dugger1 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/17/why-is-the-washington-times-meeting-with-dictators/#comment-4295 dugger1 Thu, 18 Aug 2005 15:08:28 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=304#comment-4295 Nixon and Kissinger, righties to some extent, opened red China. Perhap the Washington Time will perform a service for mankind and "open" North Korea. Surely progressives wouldn't mind that. Dugger Nixon and Kissinger, righties to some extent, opened red China. Perhap the Washington Time will perform a service for mankind and “open” North Korea. Surely progressives wouldn’t mind that.

Dugger

]]> By: Oliver http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/17/why-is-the-washington-times-meeting-with-dictators/#comment-4294 Oliver Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:08:25 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=304#comment-4294 Dan Rather interviewed Hussein, he didn't bow and honor a dictator as the Washington Times has. Dan Rather interviewed Hussein, he didn’t bow and honor a dictator as the Washington Times has.

]]> By: JD http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/17/why-is-the-washington-times-meeting-with-dictators/#comment-4293 JD Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:08:10 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=304#comment-4293 Apparently you have not been in the service, nor do you known of the UCMJ. Apparently you have not been in the service, nor do you known of the UCMJ.

]]> By: AlexCorrigan http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/17/why-is-the-washington-times-meeting-with-dictators/#comment-4292 AlexCorrigan Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:08:51 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=304#comment-4292 <em>Didn t Senator Kerry meet with the North Vietnamese leaders after his return from the war ?</em> To compare Kerry's meeting with NV leaders to the Times' exec meeting with North Korean leaders, you must first ask <em>why they were meeting</em>. Without that basic understanding, your comparison is meaningless. Kerry was in Paris to observe official negotiations between the South Vietnamese puppet government and the NV government. Apparently, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_kerry#Anti-Vietnam_War_activism_.281970-1971.29" rel="nofollow">his primary interest was securing the release of US POWs</a>. These facts are left out of typical right-wing slime attacks against Kerry. Why does a supposedly 'anti-communist' right-wing billionaire cuddle up to a 'communist' dictator? <a href="http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewPrint&articleId=9868" rel="nofollow">See for yourself</a>. Labels like 'democracy' and 'communism' are meaningless to people (like Moon and Dubya) with messianic ambitions. They are just words thrown around to keep the unwashed masses in line. Didn t Senator Kerry meet with the North Vietnamese leaders after his return from the war ?

To compare Kerry’s meeting with NV leaders to the Times’ exec meeting with North Korean leaders, you must first ask why they were meeting. Without that basic understanding, your comparison is meaningless.

Kerry was in Paris to observe official negotiations between the South Vietnamese puppet government and the NV government. Apparently, his primary interest was securing the release of US POWs. These facts are left out of typical right-wing slime attacks against Kerry.

Why does a supposedly ‘anti-communist’ right-wing billionaire cuddle up to a ‘communist’ dictator? See for yourself. Labels like ‘democracy’ and ‘communism’ are meaningless to people (like Moon and Dubya) with messianic ambitions. They are just words thrown around to keep the unwashed masses in line.

]]> By: Joshua Gaines http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/17/why-is-the-washington-times-meeting-with-dictators/#comment-4291 Joshua Gaines Thu, 18 Aug 2005 07:08:16 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=304#comment-4291 I find it particularly weird that the Washington Times did this. Sun Myung Moon fled Pyongang and has been an ardent commie hater ever since. This is like an anti-Castro newspaper sending an envoy to communist Cuba. I find it particularly weird that the Washington Times did this. Sun Myung Moon fled Pyongang and has been an ardent commie hater ever since. This is like an anti-Castro newspaper sending an envoy to communist Cuba.

]]> By: Joshua Gaines http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/17/why-is-the-washington-times-meeting-with-dictators/#comment-4290 Joshua Gaines Thu, 18 Aug 2005 07:08:14 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=304#comment-4290 What does being in the reserves have to with anything? This guy may have been in the reserves, what would be the damn difference? And why does one's occupation matter at all if one is conducting the visit as a private person? What does being in the reserves have to with anything? This guy may have been in the reserves, what would be the damn difference? And why does one’s occupation matter at all if one is conducting the visit as a private person?

]]> By: JD http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/17/why-is-the-washington-times-meeting-with-dictators/#comment-4289 JD Thu, 18 Aug 2005 06:08:54 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=304#comment-4289 Did you have the same level of outrage when Dan Rather lobbed softballs to Saddam ? Did you have the same level of outrage when Dan Rather lobbed softballs to Saddam ?

]]> By: JD http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/17/why-is-the-washington-times-meeting-with-dictators/#comment-4288 JD Thu, 18 Aug 2005 06:08:22 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=304#comment-4288 I think one substantive difference is that Senator Kerry was either in active duty, or in the Reserves, at the time, and in the process of beginning his political career. On the other hand, what you would compare that to is the leader of a private business. Apples and oranges. I agree that it is wrong to have met with the freak boy from Korea. Were I in his position, I certainly would not have done so. I think one substantive difference is that Senator Kerry was either in active duty, or in the Reserves, at the time, and in the process of beginning his political career. On the other hand, what you would compare that to is the leader of a private business. Apples and oranges.

I agree that it is wrong to have met with the freak boy from Korea. Were I in his position, I certainly would not have done so.

]]> By: Quaker in a Basement http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/17/why-is-the-washington-times-meeting-with-dictators/#comment-4287 Quaker in a Basement Thu, 18 Aug 2005 06:08:21 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=304#comment-4287 <blockquote>Didn t Senator Kerry meet with the North Vietnamese leaders after his return from the war ? </blockquote> He did. And certain people hollered "Treason!" How come we're not hearing from those same folks now?

Didn t Senator Kerry meet with the North Vietnamese leaders after his return from the war ?

He did.

And certain people hollered “Treason!” How come we’re not hearing from those same folks now?

]]> By: JD http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/17/why-is-the-washington-times-meeting-with-dictators/#comment-4286 JD Thu, 18 Aug 2005 06:08:07 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=304#comment-4286 Didn't Senator Kerry meet with the North Vietnamese leaders after his return from the war ? Didn’t Senator Kerry meet with the North Vietnamese leaders after his return from the war ?

]]> By: nickname http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/17/why-is-the-washington-times-meeting-with-dictators/#comment-4285 nickname Thu, 18 Aug 2005 03:08:38 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=304#comment-4285 <i>on the 60th anniversary of Korea s liberation.</i> thats news to me... on the 60th anniversary of Korea s liberation.

thats news to me…

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