Comments on: The Drunk Sailor Lobby http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/10/the-drunk-sailor-lobby/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:30:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Dugger http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/10/the-drunk-sailor-lobby/#comment-3668 Dugger Fri, 12 Aug 2005 14:08:53 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=268#comment-3668 Quaker, Uhhh, uhhh, ...bluster... sputter - good point! Dugger Quaker,

Uhhh, uhhh, …bluster… sputter – good point!

Dugger

]]> By: Quaker in a Basement http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/10/the-drunk-sailor-lobby/#comment-3667 Quaker in a Basement Fri, 12 Aug 2005 06:08:53 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=268#comment-3667 <blockquote>Oliver isn t really PO d about a big governemnt spending bill...he would like to claim Bush is some sort of extreme rightist bogeyman out of one corner of his mouth and out of the other a big govenment big spender out of the other... </blockquote> Say, didn't I see you on another thread chastising someone about...lessee...oh, yeah!...mindreading?

Oliver isn t really PO d about a big governemnt spending bill…he would like to claim Bush is some sort of extreme rightist bogeyman out of one corner of his mouth and out of the other a big govenment big spender out of the other…

Say, didn’t I see you on another thread chastising someone about…lessee…oh, yeah!…mindreading?

]]> By: dugger1 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/10/the-drunk-sailor-lobby/#comment-3666 dugger1 Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:08:23 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=268#comment-3666 You've got to understand whats going on here. Oliver isn't really PO'd about a big governemnt spending bill. He's aliberal after all. the real message is that he would like to claim Bush is some sort of extreme rightist bogeyman out of one corner of his mouth and out of the other a big govenment big spender out of the other - that WE conservatives should not like. Think I'll make my own descions. Bush spends too much. But still I'm completely convinced that at his worst he will spend less than anybody ever put forward by the Deaniac wing of the party - which is calling the shots. Dugger You’ve got to understand whats going on here. Oliver isn’t really PO’d about a big governemnt spending bill. He’s aliberal after all. the real message is that he would like to claim Bush is some sort of extreme rightist bogeyman out of one corner of his mouth and out of the other a big govenment big spender out of the other – that WE conservatives should not like. Think I’ll make my own descions. Bush spends too much. But still I’m completely convinced that at his worst he will spend less than anybody ever put forward by the Deaniac wing of the party – which is calling the shots.

Dugger

]]> By: SaveFarris http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/10/the-drunk-sailor-lobby/#comment-3665 SaveFarris Thu, 11 Aug 2005 13:08:52 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=268#comment-3665 Silly southpaw, There is no crisis, according to Oliver and his cohorts. Silly southpaw,

There is no crisis, according to Oliver and his cohorts.

]]> By: southpaw http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/10/the-drunk-sailor-lobby/#comment-3664 southpaw Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:08:26 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=268#comment-3664 What is going to happen in the next ten years when 40 million baby boomers will retire and quit paying into social security and will begin drawing their social security benefits. There will not be much if any surplus for the government to spend. That means that taxes will have to go up or spending will have to be reduced. I am already paying 35% of my income for state, federal and social security. I know several millionaires who do not pay any taxes. We need to get rid of the income tax and go to a flat tax or sales tax system (fair tax) where everyone pays. What is going to happen in the next ten years when 40 million baby boomers will retire and quit paying into social security and will begin drawing their social security benefits. There will not be much if any surplus for the government to spend. That means that taxes will have to go up or spending will have to be reduced. I am already paying 35% of my income for state, federal and social security. I know several millionaires who do not pay any taxes. We need to get rid of the income tax and go to a flat tax or sales tax system (fair tax) where everyone pays.

]]> By: johnnyprogressive http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/10/the-drunk-sailor-lobby/#comment-3663 johnnyprogressive Thu, 11 Aug 2005 06:08:25 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=268#comment-3663 Yes JD, and if you noticed the comments that proceeded your initial one you would see there are several ways to make budget cuts without cutting social services. Yes JD, and if you noticed the comments that proceeded your initial one you would see there are several ways to make budget cuts without cutting social services.

]]> By: JD http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/10/the-drunk-sailor-lobby/#comment-3662 JD Thu, 11 Aug 2005 04:08:55 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=268#comment-3662 Unfortunately, you are right. But as I mentioned before, were spending actually to be cut, rather than just slowing rates of growth, can you image the wailing from the left about how the Republicans were trying to kill old people, starve children, etc ... ? Unfortunately, you are right. But as I mentioned before, were spending actually to be cut, rather than just slowing rates of growth, can you image the wailing from the left about how the Republicans were trying to kill old people, starve children, etc … ?

]]> By: Bushwacked http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/10/the-drunk-sailor-lobby/#comment-3661 Bushwacked Thu, 11 Aug 2005 04:08:35 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=268#comment-3661 "Funny thing about those horrible tax cuts that will cause the end of civilization as we know it & Apparently tax revenues continue to increase." Yeah that' right, JD. "Trickle Down Economics II" is why the National Debt is pushing 8 Trillion now )(7.8B to be more precise). The deficit is only going to be around 300 Billion (~250 Billion of that is interest on the debt). Bush's prescription drug bill, tax cuts, the Iraq war, just to mention a few, have resulted in the government having to borrow more and more money from, would you believe China and other countries? And now he wants to borrow more for his Social Security Privitization plan. Great job neocons! After all those promises for a balanced budget amendment back in 1994, you guys will finish off the country sooner than those "tax and spend" democrats by borrowing us into oblivion. “Funny thing about those horrible tax cuts that will cause the end of civilization as we know it & Apparently tax revenues continue to increase.”

Yeah that’ right, JD. “Trickle Down Economics II” is why the National Debt is pushing 8 Trillion now )(7.8B to be more precise). The deficit is only going to be around 300 Billion (~250 Billion of that is interest on the debt). Bush’s prescription drug bill, tax cuts, the Iraq war, just to mention a few, have resulted in the government having to borrow more and more money from, would you believe China and other countries? And now he wants to borrow more for his Social Security Privitization plan.

Great job neocons! After all those promises for a balanced budget amendment back in 1994, you guys will finish off the country sooner than those “tax and spend” democrats by borrowing us into oblivion.

]]> By: Quaker in a Basement http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/10/the-drunk-sailor-lobby/#comment-3660 Quaker in a Basement Thu, 11 Aug 2005 02:08:30 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=268#comment-3660 <i>"Apparently tax revenues continue to increase."</i> Unfortunately, not as fast as spending. “Apparently tax revenues continue to increase.”

Unfortunately, not as fast as spending.

]]> By: neoconsrloopy http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/10/the-drunk-sailor-lobby/#comment-3659 neoconsrloopy Thu, 11 Aug 2005 01:08:25 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=268#comment-3659 Let me see, where can I cut the budget, hmmmm. Oh, how about we get out of Iraq? That's $150 billion there, and how about we roll back tax credits for large corporations? That out to make up the rest- just for fun we'll make the rich and corporations pay their share, so we'll have money for REAL homeland security. We can also roll back the pay increase the Republican Congress voted itself. Balancing the budget, it's hard work. Let me see, where can I cut the budget, hmmmm. Oh, how about we get out of Iraq? That’s $150 billion there, and how about we roll back tax credits for large corporations? That out to make up the rest- just for fun we’ll make the rich and corporations pay their share, so we’ll have money for REAL homeland security. We can also roll back the pay increase the Republican Congress voted itself.

Balancing the budget, it’s hard work.

]]> By: JD http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/10/the-drunk-sailor-lobby/#comment-3658 JD Thu, 11 Aug 2005 01:08:08 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=268#comment-3658 Funny thing about those horrible tax cuts that will cause the end of civilization as we know it ... Apparently tax revenues continue to increase. Funny thing about those horrible tax cuts that will cause the end of civilization as we know it … Apparently tax revenues continue to increase.

]]> By: Rosalind Kurita http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/10/the-drunk-sailor-lobby/#comment-3657 Rosalind Kurita Thu, 11 Aug 2005 00:08:29 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=268#comment-3657 Bush and the DC crowd have a "borrow and spend" mentality. And it's ruining our country. We need more Senators in Washington who know what it's like to really work for a living -- I have those experiences. I've punched a time clock, I've worked a double shift, and I've raised a family while running a business. And I'm ready to take those experiences -- and the values learned from a lot of hard work -- to Washington. I doubt President Bush would recognize hard work if he saw it. Bush and the DC crowd have a “borrow and spend” mentality. And it’s ruining our country.

We need more Senators in Washington who know what it’s like to really work for a living — I have those experiences. I’ve punched a time clock, I’ve worked a double shift, and I’ve raised a family while running a business.

And I’m ready to take those experiences — and the values learned from a lot of hard work — to Washington.

I doubt President Bush would recognize hard work if he saw it.

]]> By: jnfr http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/10/the-drunk-sailor-lobby/#comment-3656 jnfr Thu, 11 Aug 2005 00:08:06 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=268#comment-3656 Because everyone knows the only way to balance the budget is by starving poor people! Because everyone knows the only way to balance the budget is by starving poor people!

]]> By: JD http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/08/10/the-drunk-sailor-lobby/#comment-3655 JD Thu, 11 Aug 2005 00:08:03 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=268#comment-3655 I also wish that the Republican congress would cut back on its spending. At the same time, if they did, this article would have been about how the Republicans are trying to starve women, children, and minorities. I also wish that the Republican congress would cut back on its spending. At the same time, if they did, this article would have been about how the Republicans are trying to starve women, children, and minorities.

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