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		<title>By: BinkyBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/18/tom-tancredo-bomb-mecca/#comment-2433</link>
		<dc:creator>BinkyBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 23:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But police action is what Clinton did, and Clinton is the root of all evil and tooth decay, so we must not do what Clinton did.

Kind of like a successful economy, etc.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But police action is what Clinton did, and Clinton is the root of all evil and tooth decay, so we must not do what Clinton did.</p>
<p>Kind of like a successful economy, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: BD</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/18/tom-tancredo-bomb-mecca/#comment-2432</link>
		<dc:creator>BD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the more shortsighted viewpoint being espoused isn&#039;t about where, but with what.

We bombed Afghanistan and Iraq. Bombed and bombed and bombed some more.

And yet terrorist cells still exist, killing innocent civilians in Baghdad and London.

All of our greatest victories in the war on terror--the capture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, for example--were the result of police action, not daisy cutters.

Think: if killing 3000 people in NYC--a great American city, but not a &quot;holy&quot; one--didn&#039;t cause rational-minded Americans to surrender, then why does Tancredo seem to think that the destruction of Mecca would somehow take the heart out of a bunch of zealots?

This is, perhaps, a misapplied lesson of Hiroshima/Nagasaki--that a display of superior firepower will force your opponent to surrender. This is not 1945, and Al-Qaida is not the Japanese. The war on al-Qaida can be won, but not the way it&#039;s been executed thus far.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the more shortsighted viewpoint being espoused isn&#8217;t about where, but with what.</p>
<p>We bombed Afghanistan and Iraq. Bombed and bombed and bombed some more.</p>
<p>And yet terrorist cells still exist, killing innocent civilians in Baghdad and London.</p>
<p>All of our greatest victories in the war on terror&#8211;the capture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, for example&#8211;were the result of police action, not daisy cutters.</p>
<p>Think: if killing 3000 people in NYC&#8211;a great American city, but not a &#8220;holy&#8221; one&#8211;didn&#8217;t cause rational-minded Americans to surrender, then why does Tancredo seem to think that the destruction of Mecca would somehow take the heart out of a bunch of zealots?</p>
<p>This is, perhaps, a misapplied lesson of Hiroshima/Nagasaki&#8211;that a display of superior firepower will force your opponent to surrender. This is not 1945, and Al-Qaida is not the Japanese. The war on al-Qaida can be won, but not the way it&#8217;s been executed thus far.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay C</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/18/tom-tancredo-bomb-mecca/#comment-2431</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Oliver supported attacking Saudi Arabia.

You couldn&#039;t bomb that country WITHOUT hitting an Islamic holy site.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Oliver supported attacking Saudi Arabia.</p>
<p>You couldn&#8217;t bomb that country WITHOUT hitting an Islamic holy site.</p>
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		<title>By: TomY</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/18/tom-tancredo-bomb-mecca/#comment-2430</link>
		<dc:creator>TomY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, so Oliver&#039;s post was about the left, and Nazis at Guantanamo? Oh, no it wasn&#039;t. You&#039;re a troll after all.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, so Oliver&#8217;s post was about the left, and Nazis at Guantanamo? Oh, no it wasn&#8217;t. You&#8217;re a troll after all.</p>
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		<title>By: TomY</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/18/tom-tancredo-bomb-mecca/#comment-2429</link>
		<dc:creator>TomY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of Jay C&#039;s outrage and scorn is directed at liberals, no matter how stupid, counterproductive to the war on terror, or flat-out evil conservatives get. Where&#039;s your conscience, Jay C?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of Jay C&#8217;s outrage and scorn is directed at liberals, no matter how stupid, counterproductive to the war on terror, or flat-out evil conservatives get. Where&#8217;s your conscience, Jay C?</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/18/tom-tancredo-bomb-mecca/#comment-2428</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what happens when terrorist cells hide out in (wait for it) ... Islamic Holy sites?

What then, Oliver?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what happens when terrorist cells hide out in (wait for it) &#8230; Islamic Holy sites?</p>
<p>What then, Oliver?</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/18/tom-tancredo-bomb-mecca/#comment-2427</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would not target Islamic holy sites, I would target (wait for it)... terrorist cells.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would not target Islamic holy sites, I would target (wait for it)&#8230; terrorist cells.</p>
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		<title>By: TomY</title>
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		<dc:creator>TomY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hedley: I still have nothing to say, except that I don&#039;t like liberals.

Thanks for trolling!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hedley: I still have nothing to say, except that I don&#8217;t like liberals.</p>
<p>Thanks for trolling!</p>
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		<title>By: Hedley</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/18/tom-tancredo-bomb-mecca/#comment-2425</link>
		<dc:creator>Hedley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh, that&#039;s right, I forgot. When a congressman on the right says something stupid, the sky is falling (&quot;500 new suicide bombers&quot;) and everyone who looks for balance is either a troll or taking cues from LGF.  But when a congressman on the left says something stupid (certainly as often, if not more so, then as occurs on the right) just ignore it and talk some more about Karl Rove and his non-crime.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, that&#8217;s right, I forgot. When a congressman on the right says something stupid, the sky is falling (&#8221;500 new suicide bombers&#8221;) and everyone who looks for balance is either a troll or taking cues from LGF.  But when a congressman on the left says something stupid (certainly as often, if not more so, then as occurs on the right) just ignore it and talk some more about Karl Rove and his non-crime.</p>
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		<title>By: Hedley</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/18/tom-tancredo-bomb-mecca/#comment-2424</link>
		<dc:creator>Hedley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TomY: All conservatives are evil and they do whatever LGF says.

Board apologist extraordinaire!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TomY: All conservatives are evil and they do whatever LGF says.</p>
<p>Board apologist extraordinaire!</p>
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		<title>By: pionar</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/18/tom-tancredo-bomb-mecca/#comment-2423</link>
		<dc:creator>pionar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>neoconsrloopy, yeah, he&#039;s got quite a bit of support on the right because of his views on immigration &quot;reform&quot; and border security.  He&#039;s rumored as a possible presidential hopeful for 08.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neoconsrloopy, yeah, he&#8217;s got quite a bit of support on the right because of his views on immigration &#8220;reform&#8221; and border security.  He&#8217;s rumored as a possible presidential hopeful for 08.</p>
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		<title>By: TomY</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/18/tom-tancredo-bomb-mecca/#comment-2422</link>
		<dc:creator>TomY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He probably got the idea from Little Green Footballs. It&#039;s quite &quot;understandable.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He probably got the idea from Little Green Footballs. It&#8217;s quite &#8220;understandable.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: TomY</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/18/tom-tancredo-bomb-mecca/#comment-2421</link>
		<dc:creator>TomY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once it hits al-Jazeera, al-Qaeda will get 500 new suicide bombers from this comment alone. Where&#039;s Glenn Reynolds on this one? Oh, he&#039;s going after the War of the Worlds screenwriter for making an irresponsible comparison. Keep speaking truth to power, Glenn!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once it hits al-Jazeera, al-Qaeda will get 500 new suicide bombers from this comment alone. Where&#8217;s Glenn Reynolds on this one? Oh, he&#8217;s going after the War of the Worlds screenwriter for making an irresponsible comparison. Keep speaking truth to power, Glenn!</p>
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		<title>By: pionar</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/18/tom-tancredo-bomb-mecca/#comment-2420</link>
		<dc:creator>pionar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting.  I wouldn&#039;t rule it out if we found out that Saudi Arabia was behind such an attack. Mecca and Medina, the two holiest Muslim cities, are both in S.A.

However, to say such a thing would be just as ridiculous as an Arabic guy saying that if the US bombs Iraq, they would &quot;take out&quot; Jerusalem.  It&#039;s a non sequitur that just exposes the lack of reason of this representative from Colorado.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  I wouldn&#8217;t rule it out if we found out that Saudi Arabia was behind such an attack. Mecca and Medina, the two holiest Muslim cities, are both in S.A.</p>
<p>However, to say such a thing would be just as ridiculous as an Arabic guy saying that if the US bombs Iraq, they would &#8220;take out&#8221; Jerusalem.  It&#8217;s a non sequitur that just exposes the lack of reason of this representative from Colorado.</p>
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		<title>By: neoconsrloopy</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/18/tom-tancredo-bomb-mecca/#comment-2419</link>
		<dc:creator>neoconsrloopy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oddly enough, I see no military experience in his background.  Color me surprised.

Isn&#039;t he the loon behind attacks on undocumented aliens?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oddly enough, I see no military experience in his background.  Color me surprised.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t he the loon behind attacks on undocumented aliens?</p>
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		<title>By: TomY</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/18/tom-tancredo-bomb-mecca/#comment-2418</link>
		<dc:creator>TomY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter Hedley: I have nothing to say, so I will troll.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shorter Hedley: I have nothing to say, so I will troll.</p>
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		<title>By: Hedley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hedley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But now if he had compared U.S. troops to Nazis or Guantanamo Bay to one of Stalin&#039;s gulags, the left would find that perfectly acceptable.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But now if he had compared U.S. troops to Nazis or Guantanamo Bay to one of Stalin&#8217;s gulags, the left would find that perfectly acceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: Hedley</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/18/tom-tancredo-bomb-mecca/#comment-2416</link>
		<dc:creator>Hedley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I missed the left&#039;s substantive discussion.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I missed the left&#8217;s substantive discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/18/tom-tancredo-bomb-mecca/#comment-2415</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, good ol&#039; Nutty Tom.

Just a couple of weeks ago, he was raising hell with the Denver Public Library because they plan to &lt;i&gt;buy some books printed in Spanish!&lt;/i&gt;

Believe it or not.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, good ol&#8217; Nutty Tom.</p>
<p>Just a couple of weeks ago, he was raising hell with the Denver Public Library because they plan to <i>buy some books printed in Spanish!</i></p>
<p>Believe it or not.</p>
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