Only liberals believe that telling the same lie over and over again will make it true.

That, in itself, is a lie.

It’s not going to work with Karl Rove, and it’s not going to work with me.

For a bunch of folks who don’t think it appropriate to discuss “an ongoing investigation”–they’re doing a lot of discussing.

Of course, since Frank D thinks racism is “understandable”–I could see where he might be, well, wrong.

1) The company s identity, Brewster-Jennings & Associates, became public because it appeared in Federal Election Commission records (it wasn t  outed  she revealed it.)

The company’s name appeared in the records. But it wasn’t until Plame was exposed as a CIA operative that the company was revealed to be a CIA front. Simply having the company name show up somewhere didn’t reveal anything.

My theory is indicated by the points I emphasized:
1) The company s identity, Brewster-Jennings & Associates, became public because it appeared in Federal Election Commission records (it wasn’t “outed” — she revealed it.) AND

2) She contributed $1,000 to Al Gore s presidential primary campaign — we wouldn’t want that blared all over the papers, would we…

This is just my theory, which I shared with JEP.

As Monty Python might say:

This is my theory, which is the theory that is my own, because it is not anybody else’s…

The company s identity, Brewster-Jennings & Associates, became public because it appeared in Federal Election Commission records [no crime, story] on a form filled out in 1999 by Valerie Plame, the case officer at the center of the controversy, when she contributed $1,000 to Al Gore s presidential primary campaign [need I say more?].

I win!!

In his conversation with Matt Cooper was Karl Rove responding to Joe Wilson s claim that Vice President Cheney sent him on the mission to Niger?
That claim was implied in Wilson s NYT oped 7/6/03:  In February 2002, I was informed by officials at the Central Intelligence Agency that Vice President Dick Cheney s office had questions about a particular intelligence report. & The agency officials asked if I would travel to Niger to check out the story so they could provide a response to the vice president s office.

Take note of what Wilson says:

1) CIA officials told me Cheney wanted answers.
2) CIA officials asked me if I would go to Africa.

Somehow, May wants us to think Wilson was telling us that Cheney asked him to go to Africa. Of course, Wilson says nothing of the sort. (Ironically, this little exercise is offered up in defense of Mr. Bush’s carefully worded statement that “The British have learned that Saddam Hussein sought significant quantities of uranium…” Why is May willing to parse Bush so carefully and eager to interpret Wilson so broadly?

Because Cliff May is a lying little weasel, that’s why.

MORE RE ROVE [Cliff May]
In his conversation with Matt Cooper was Karl Rove responding to Joe Wilson s claim that Vice President Cheney sent him on the mission to Niger?
That claim was implied in Wilson s NYT oped 7/6/03:  In February 2002, I was informed by officials at the Central Intelligence Agency that Vice President Dick Cheney s office had questions about a particular intelligence report. & The agency officials asked if I would travel to Niger to check out the story so they could provide a response to the vice president s office.
But Cheney has consistently denied that he sent Wilson anywhere  or even received a report on Wilson s visit. And the Senate Select Committee On Intelligence confirmed that Cheney did not assign Wilson to conduct an investigation on behalf of the CIA.
CIA Director George Tenet said (in a press release 7/11/03) that the  CIA s counter-proliferation experts, on their own initiative, asked an individual with ties to the region to make a visit to see what he could learn. Wilson s wife was a CIA counter-proliferation expert at this time.
Did she help get him the assignment? Apparently so (emphasis added):
 Some [CIA Counterproliferation Division, or CPD,] officials could not recall how the office decided to contact the former ambassador, however, interviews and documents provided to the Committee indicate that his wife, a CPD employee, suggested his name for the trip. The CPD reports officer told Committee staff that the former ambassador s wife  offered up his name and a memorandum to the Deputy Chief of the CPD on February 12, 2002, from the former ambassador s wife says,  my husband has good relations with both the PM [prime minister] and the former Minister of Mines (not to mention lots of French contacts), both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity.  (From the Select Committee On Intelligence s  Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community s Prewar Intelligence Assessments On Iraq, U.S. Senate, 7/7/04)
So that would mean Rove may have been countering Wilson s demonstrably false claim with the truth. Is it a crime in Washington to tell the truth? Actually, it probably would be if (1) Rove knew that Mrs. Wilson had been undercover, (2) if the CIA was taking assertive measures to protect her covert status, and (3) if Rove knew about Mrs. Wilson s status because he had access to classified information.
But if those conditions have not been met, this is a tempest in a teapot  one which will be stirred for all its worth nevertheless.

The company’s identity, Brewster-Jennings & Associates, became public because it appeared in Federal Election Commission records on a form filled out in 1999 by Valerie Plame, the case officer at the center of the controversy, when she contributed $1,000 to Al Gore’s presidential primary campaign.

with commentary added by me

The company’s identity, Brewster-Jennings & Associates, became public because it appeared in Federal Election Commission records [no crime, story] on a form filled out in 1999 by Valerie Plame, the case officer at the center of the controversy, when she contributed $1,000 to Al Gore’s presidential primary campaign [need I say more?].

Has Goss completely purged or intimidated anyone who would squawk?

As for whether Rove’s legal and ethical problems are a “tempest in a teapot,” we’ll learn soon. I look forward to reminding you of these words–again and again–over the weeks to come.

As you know, Quaker, making sure that things are “OK with you” is what I live for.

Quaker, I already told you I’m not playing games with you anymore.

Short answer: I don’t know of any Senator who said “A” (neither do you).

The End.

So your saying a well respected republican prosecutor, noted for being a no-nonsense straight shooter spent 2 years, escalating all the way to the Supreme Court and locked up a reporter for nothing? Sure I’m sure Fitzgerald had nothing better to do with his time for the last 2 years…

12) This is all a tempest in a teapot. Nobody cares but the lefties who think they smell blood.

Well here’s a puzzler for you:

Which of the following is a greater threat to our security?

a) a Senator who says: “If you didn’t know any better, you might guess that only really bad people would chain a prisoner up in a sweltering hot room til he craps himself.”

or

b) a White House advisor who exposes a front corporation for the CIA.

Now which of the above had your sort screaming for a resignation?

I’d add this entire affair will make potential informants very leery of helping the US, knowing their personal safety could be compromised because some traitorous pinhead decides to try to score political points.