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		<title>By: johnnyprogressive</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/09/validation/#comment-1603</link>
		<dc:creator>johnnyprogressive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2005 07:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay C, Muslim hating is pretty run-of-the-mill for those who visit LGF, a conservative blog. I sifted through enough comments in this thread, which are mostly back and forth name calling, and I understand your toungue-in-cheek attempt at illustrating your point, which was I&#039;m assuming was &quot;it is just as silly to call your typical conservative a Muslim hating bigot as it is to refer to the typical liberal as a police officer beating anarchist.&quot; Since we refer to something that is rampant on LGF (and probably would be on other conservative blogs, if most of them actually allowed comments) and give plenty of examples, while you refer to a single incident by someone who does not reflect my, or most others&#039; on here political leanings, your point is asinine, regardless of how tongue in cheek you meant it to be.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay C, Muslim hating is pretty run-of-the-mill for those who visit LGF, a conservative blog. I sifted through enough comments in this thread, which are mostly back and forth name calling, and I understand your toungue-in-cheek attempt at illustrating your point, which was I&#8217;m assuming was &#8220;it is just as silly to call your typical conservative a Muslim hating bigot as it is to refer to the typical liberal as a police officer beating anarchist.&#8221; Since we refer to something that is rampant on LGF (and probably would be on other conservative blogs, if most of them actually allowed comments) and give plenty of examples, while you refer to a single incident by someone who does not reflect my, or most others&#8217; on here political leanings, your point is asinine, regardless of how tongue in cheek you meant it to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay C</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/09/validation/#comment-1602</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 14:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>johnnyprogressive, why don&#039;t you read starting at the top. Maybe then you&#039;ll see why I posted the story tongue in cheek.

I&#039;ve been arguing with a bunch of dunderheads who equate Muslim hating racists to your everyday conservative. I thought the band of nitwits saying so would pick up on that, but I guess my faith in the brainpower of some was just too high.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>johnnyprogressive, why don&#8217;t you read starting at the top. Maybe then you&#8217;ll see why I posted the story tongue in cheek.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been arguing with a bunch of dunderheads who equate Muslim hating racists to your everyday conservative. I thought the band of nitwits saying so would pick up on that, but I guess my faith in the brainpower of some was just too high.</p>
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		<title>By: johnnyprogressive</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/09/validation/#comment-1601</link>
		<dc:creator>johnnyprogressive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 07:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay C... Liberals == Anarchists?

If you think this is the case, your head is farther up your ass than I previously thought.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay C&#8230; Liberals == Anarchists?</p>
<p>If you think this is the case, your head is farther up your ass than I previously thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay C</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/09/validation/#comment-1600</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 04:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I sense a bit of oversensitivity WRT your child-raising skills; after all, my comments said nothing more than I thought your comments on child-rearing were laughable.&lt;/i&gt;

You are such a fucking liar it is pathetic. I never made any comments about child rearing and you still chose to make some idiotic remark about me and parenting (along with Frank). I paid it no mind because I give as much thought to your insights regarding my parenting about as much thought as I give to taking a piss, which isn&#039;t much.

Putz.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I sense a bit of oversensitivity WRT your child-raising skills; after all, my comments said nothing more than I thought your comments on child-rearing were laughable.</i></p>
<p>You are such a fucking liar it is pathetic. I never made any comments about child rearing and you still chose to make some idiotic remark about me and parenting (along with Frank). I paid it no mind because I give as much thought to your insights regarding my parenting about as much thought as I give to taking a piss, which isn&#8217;t much.</p>
<p>Putz.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/09/validation/#comment-1599</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 04:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JadeGold: You really are a moron. Parents are always sensitive about their children. Were you raised by wolves? Didn&#039;t your parents care about you?

Stop trying to justify your crude and distasteful behavior. If you can&#039;t or won&#039;t apologize, then I don&#039;t need to hear any more from you on the subject. I&#039;m sure you don&#039;t feel the need to apologize -- that would require the &quot;skillset&quot; of a man.

&quot;this touched home in some way I can only imagine&quot; You don&#039;t have to imagine it. I already told you it was uncalled for.

&quot;you aren t actually interested in pursuing the fight or duel or slapfest.&quot; Well, duh! Ya think?

How many times have I called you a coward? None.

&quot;Your views and acceptance of racism also do not commend your parenting qualifications&quot;
Once again, we come to this canard. I do not, nor did I, accept racism.
I acknowledge its existence, and I understand where it comes from.

I guess as a liberal, you think you can wish it away by &quot;condemning&quot; it, but I live in the real world, where people are really angry at Muslims, because Muslims are killing Americans.

You keep calling me a racist, I keep telling you I am not one. I am certainly in a better position than you are to decide if I am a racist. If you were as reasonable as I am, you would never try to make a connection between an untenable accusation -- that I am a racist -- and a second judgement: that I am a bad parent. Yet you persist. That is as evil as it is ignorant.

As to sensitivity, what do you suppose being treated like a pariah on so many blogs has done to your attitude?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JadeGold: You really are a moron. Parents are always sensitive about their children. Were you raised by wolves? Didn&#8217;t your parents care about you?</p>
<p>Stop trying to justify your crude and distasteful behavior. If you can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t apologize, then I don&#8217;t need to hear any more from you on the subject. I&#8217;m sure you don&#8217;t feel the need to apologize &#8212; that would require the &#8220;skillset&#8221; of a man.</p>
<p>&#8220;this touched home in some way I can only imagine&#8221; You don&#8217;t have to imagine it. I already told you it was uncalled for.</p>
<p>&#8220;you aren t actually interested in pursuing the fight or duel or slapfest.&#8221; Well, duh! Ya think?</p>
<p>How many times have I called you a coward? None.</p>
<p>&#8220;Your views and acceptance of racism also do not commend your parenting qualifications&#8221;<br />
Once again, we come to this canard. I do not, nor did I, accept racism.<br />
I acknowledge its existence, and I understand where it comes from.</p>
<p>I guess as a liberal, you think you can wish it away by &#8220;condemning&#8221; it, but I live in the real world, where people are really angry at Muslims, because Muslims are killing Americans.</p>
<p>You keep calling me a racist, I keep telling you I am not one. I am certainly in a better position than you are to decide if I am a racist. If you were as reasonable as I am, you would never try to make a connection between an untenable accusation &#8212; that I am a racist &#8212; and a second judgement: that I am a bad parent. Yet you persist. That is as evil as it is ignorant.</p>
<p>As to sensitivity, what do you suppose being treated like a pariah on so many blogs has done to your attitude?</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/09/validation/#comment-1598</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 04:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, a bunch of right-wing blogs are aghast and agog that someone would actually point out their movement&#039;s intellectual and moral dishonesty. I&#039;m trembling, really.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, a bunch of right-wing blogs are aghast and agog that someone would actually point out their movement&#8217;s intellectual and moral dishonesty. I&#8217;m trembling, really.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/09/validation/#comment-1597</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 03:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;How s the condi fan fic coming along?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Mouse: Can you honestly say there was a positive purpose for this question?

Why do people like you do this kind of stuff?

What do you get out of it?

You wouldn&#039;t be trying to provoke me, would you? &lt;i&gt;Nah.&lt;/i&gt;
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<p>Mouse: Can you honestly say there was a positive purpose for this question?</p>
<p>Why do people like you do this kind of stuff?</p>
<p>What do you get out of it?</p>
<p>You wouldn&#8217;t be trying to provoke me, would you? <i>Nah.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Jadegold</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/09/validation/#comment-1596</link>
		<dc:creator>Jadegold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 03:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank D:

I sense a bit of oversensitivity WRT your child-raising skills; after all, my comments said nothing more than I thought your comments on child-rearing were laughable. Obviously, this touched home in some way I can only imagine.

Still, one can go back over your posts and find you have a penchant for trying to arrange fights; of course, these challenges always seem to be scheduled for weird hours and even weirder locations which strongly suggests you aren&#039;t actually interested in pursuing the fight or duel or slapfest. Again, challenging strangers to fights is not a hallmark of a good parent. It is the skillset of a wino.

Your views and acceptance of racism also do not commend your parenting qualifications. After all, racism is taught and promulgated to kids, usually by their parents.  You speak of tolerance and compassion but say racism is &#039;understandable.&#039;  Very incongruous.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank D:</p>
<p>I sense a bit of oversensitivity WRT your child-raising skills; after all, my comments said nothing more than I thought your comments on child-rearing were laughable. Obviously, this touched home in some way I can only imagine.</p>
<p>Still, one can go back over your posts and find you have a penchant for trying to arrange fights; of course, these challenges always seem to be scheduled for weird hours and even weirder locations which strongly suggests you aren&#8217;t actually interested in pursuing the fight or duel or slapfest. Again, challenging strangers to fights is not a hallmark of a good parent. It is the skillset of a wino.</p>
<p>Your views and acceptance of racism also do not commend your parenting qualifications. After all, racism is taught and promulgated to kids, usually by their parents.  You speak of tolerance and compassion but say racism is &#8216;understandable.&#8217;  Very incongruous.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/09/validation/#comment-1595</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 02:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JadeGold: Your remarks about my (and Jay C&#039;s) parenting skills were made days ago. Don&#039;t use this thread as an excuse. Besides, you still don&#039;t know me or my children, and your remarks are out of line.
You don&#039;t have children, or you would know that you don&#039;t drag people&#039;s children into debates

JadeGold, would you &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; like to hear what your posts tell me about you? Or maybe I&#039;ll share what lots of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=JadeGold+troll&amp;sourceid=mozilla-search&amp;start=0&amp;start=0&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;other people&lt;/a&gt; think  We conservatives can fight dirty, too.

Your lectures on tolerance and compassion sound a bit false when you know nothing about me or my children. This kind of behavior is not unexpected, coming from liberals.

Zappa: You&#039;re damn right I dish it out. But the people I dish it out to don&#039;t turn the other cheek, either. As for who starts the name calling, I wouldn&#039;t go there, if I were you. You&#039;ve done your share, and I didn&#039;t even mention your name. And, I&#039;m not sure, but I think even you believe there has to be some limit on these threads. Don&#039;t you?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JadeGold: Your remarks about my (and Jay C&#8217;s) parenting skills were made days ago. Don&#8217;t use this thread as an excuse. Besides, you still don&#8217;t know me or my children, and your remarks are out of line.<br />
You don&#8217;t have children, or you would know that you don&#8217;t drag people&#8217;s children into debates</p>
<p>JadeGold, would you <i>really</i> like to hear what your posts tell me about you? Or maybe I&#8217;ll share what lots of <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=JadeGold+troll&#038;sourceid=mozilla-search&#038;start=0&#038;start=0&#038;ie=utf-8&#038;oe=utf-8&#038;client=firefox-a&#038;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official" rel="nofollow">other people</a> think  We conservatives can fight dirty, too.</p>
<p>Your lectures on tolerance and compassion sound a bit false when you know nothing about me or my children. This kind of behavior is not unexpected, coming from liberals.</p>
<p>Zappa: You&#8217;re damn right I dish it out. But the people I dish it out to don&#8217;t turn the other cheek, either. As for who starts the name calling, I wouldn&#8217;t go there, if I were you. You&#8217;ve done your share, and I didn&#8217;t even mention your name. And, I&#8217;m not sure, but I think even you believe there has to be some limit on these threads. Don&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Jadegold</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/09/validation/#comment-1594</link>
		<dc:creator>Jadegold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 01:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just calling it like it is, Frank D.

Someone says racism is understandable and then threatens strangers to fights on busy NYC corners just strikes me as not the model parent.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just calling it like it is, Frank D.</p>
<p>Someone says racism is understandable and then threatens strangers to fights on busy NYC corners just strikes me as not the model parent.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/09/validation/#comment-1593</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 01:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mouse: Has it ever struck &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; as strange that people who claim they are tolerant, compassionate and understanding have questioned my parenting skills (without knowing me or my children), said I have no spine or conscience, said I can&#039;t or don&#039;t read, called me a &quot;pusfilled asshole&quot;, asked if if I might require flash cards to understand them; asked me on the one hand, &quot;what I do?&quot;, on the other hand, why I haven&#039;t answered quickly enough; and this is not to mention the various condescending, insulting remarks made by the likes of you and &#039;quaker in the basement&#039;?

I&#039;d say my tolerance level is nothing less than amazing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mouse: Has it ever struck <i>you</i> as strange that people who claim they are tolerant, compassionate and understanding have questioned my parenting skills (without knowing me or my children), said I have no spine or conscience, said I can&#8217;t or don&#8217;t read, called me a &#8220;pusfilled asshole&#8221;, asked if if I might require flash cards to understand them; asked me on the one hand, &#8220;what I do?&#8221;, on the other hand, why I haven&#8217;t answered quickly enough; and this is not to mention the various condescending, insulting remarks made by the likes of you and &#8216;quaker in the basement&#8217;?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say my tolerance level is nothing less than amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: Zappa</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/09/validation/#comment-1592</link>
		<dc:creator>Zappa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 01:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on Frank - you dish it out too - it would be one thing if you were turning the other cheek or not starting the name calling crud.

Jay C - I hope that the officer is fine and the three that did it are safely behind bars.

But as a side note - I would hardly call anarchists &quot;peace, love and understanding liberals&quot;.
But you know that don&#039;t you?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on Frank &#8211; you dish it out too &#8211; it would be one thing if you were turning the other cheek or not starting the name calling crud.</p>
<p>Jay C &#8211; I hope that the officer is fine and the three that did it are safely behind bars.</p>
<p>But as a side note &#8211; I would hardly call anarchists &#8220;peace, love and understanding liberals&#8221;.<br />
But you know that don&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Jadegold</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/09/validation/#comment-1591</link>
		<dc:creator>Jadegold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank D: I feel your pain.

If anything, you might take solace in the fact you were trying to defend the indefensible: racism.

Moreover, your already impossible task was made exponentially more difficult by the fact I had the truth on my side; you merely had deflection, threats, and absurdity on yours.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank D: I feel your pain.</p>
<p>If anything, you might take solace in the fact you were trying to defend the indefensible: racism.</p>
<p>Moreover, your already impossible task was made exponentially more difficult by the fact I had the truth on my side; you merely had deflection, threats, and absurdity on yours.</p>
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		<title>By: Mouse</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/09/validation/#comment-1590</link>
		<dc:creator>Mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank, has it ever struck you as strange that you, of all the various conservatives commenting on this site, have challenged someone to a modern-day duel at least twice?

You really need to relax there buddy.  It&#039;s far too easy to push your buttons to see which part of you will blow next.  To be honest, it&#039;s the only reason I read a thread that includes you at all anymore--sheer entertainment value.

P.S.  How&#039;s the condi fan fic coming along?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, has it ever struck you as strange that you, of all the various conservatives commenting on this site, have challenged someone to a modern-day duel at least twice?</p>
<p>You really need to relax there buddy.  It&#8217;s far too easy to push your buttons to see which part of you will blow next.  To be honest, it&#8217;s the only reason I read a thread that includes you at all anymore&#8211;sheer entertainment value.</p>
<p>P.S.  How&#8217;s the condi fan fic coming along?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/09/validation/#comment-1589</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mouse: You can read about it in The New Republic soon...

JadeGold: I notice you didn&#039;t respond to one thing I said to you. I wonder why. I require no solace.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mouse: You can read about it in The New Republic soon&#8230;</p>
<p>JadeGold: I notice you didn&#8217;t respond to one thing I said to you. I wonder why. I require no solace.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay C</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/09/validation/#comment-1588</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah TomY, gotta love those peace, love and understanding liberals. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/07/10/BAG5UDLNU01.DTL&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Beating up police officers&lt;/a&gt; really says something about the morals of liberals in this country.

&lt;blockquote&gt;A San Francisco police officer was in serious condition with a head injury and three suspects were in custody Saturday following a demonstration by anarchists who broke windows in the Mission District to protest the gathering of the Group of 8 leaders in Scotland.

Police did not release the name of the officer who was hurt in Friday night&#039;s melee. Deputy Police Chief Greg Suhr said Saturday that the officer was in serious but stable condition with brain swelling at San Francisco General Hospital. He has developed a blood clot, which doctors hope to dissolve before he is released, Suhr said.

The department&#039;s spokeswoman, Maria Oropeza, said the officer and his partner were driving on 23rd Street in response to a vandalism call when protesters threw a mattress underneath their patrol car.

&quot;They got out to apprehend the suspects, at which point they were surrounded by a crowd,&quot; Oropeza said. &quot;One of the officers was struck on the head by an unidentified object.&quot;

Police arrested Cody Tarlow, 21, of Felton (Santa Cruz County), Doritt Earnst, 31, of Berkeley and a third suspect who refused to identify himself.

They were being held on suspicion of attempted lynching, malicious mischief, battery to a police officer, aggravated assault on a police officer with a deadly weapon and willful resistance to a police officer that results in serious bodily injury.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Tsk tsk.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah TomY, gotta love those peace, love and understanding liberals. <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/07/10/BAG5UDLNU01.DTL" rel="nofollow">Beating up police officers</a> really says something about the morals of liberals in this country.</p>
<blockquote><p>A San Francisco police officer was in serious condition with a head injury and three suspects were in custody Saturday following a demonstration by anarchists who broke windows in the Mission District to protest the gathering of the Group of 8 leaders in Scotland.</p>
<p>Police did not release the name of the officer who was hurt in Friday night&#8217;s melee. Deputy Police Chief Greg Suhr said Saturday that the officer was in serious but stable condition with brain swelling at San Francisco General Hospital. He has developed a blood clot, which doctors hope to dissolve before he is released, Suhr said.</p>
<p>The department&#8217;s spokeswoman, Maria Oropeza, said the officer and his partner were driving on 23rd Street in response to a vandalism call when protesters threw a mattress underneath their patrol car.</p>
<p>&#8220;They got out to apprehend the suspects, at which point they were surrounded by a crowd,&#8221; Oropeza said. &#8220;One of the officers was struck on the head by an unidentified object.&#8221;</p>
<p>Police arrested Cody Tarlow, 21, of Felton (Santa Cruz County), Doritt Earnst, 31, of Berkeley and a third suspect who refused to identify himself.</p>
<p>They were being held on suspicion of attempted lynching, malicious mischief, battery to a police officer, aggravated assault on a police officer with a deadly weapon and willful resistance to a police officer that results in serious bodily injury.</p></blockquote>
<p>Tsk tsk.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay C</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/09/validation/#comment-1587</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And you have yet to explain how Johnson magically expunges liberals and yet not the genocidal bigots.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s because the only thing I have seen is a few sites where people have claimed to have been banned, but no evidence. And like I said, you can go there right now and read all sorts of dissenting opinions, so your accusation doesn&#039;t have much merit.

&lt;i&gt;And, he doesn t have to comb his site, comment by comment, to put a damper on the racists. All he really need do is make an example out of a few of the more outrageous commenters and it s likely the other racists will either tone it down or head over to the Anti-American Bichon Frise s hate site.&lt;/i&gt;

Oh please. It took me almost a week to get rid of ONE person who turned from a troll into somebody that was engaging in harassment.

And besides, CJ&#039;s weblog is popular enough. He doesn&#039;t need the racist contingent to keep going so the whole &quot;he thrives on that racist crap&quot; is just more of your bullshit.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And you have yet to explain how Johnson magically expunges liberals and yet not the genocidal bigots.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s because the only thing I have seen is a few sites where people have claimed to have been banned, but no evidence. And like I said, you can go there right now and read all sorts of dissenting opinions, so your accusation doesn&#8217;t have much merit.</p>
<p><i>And, he doesn t have to comb his site, comment by comment, to put a damper on the racists. All he really need do is make an example out of a few of the more outrageous commenters and it s likely the other racists will either tone it down or head over to the Anti-American Bichon Frise s hate site.</i></p>
<p>Oh please. It took me almost a week to get rid of ONE person who turned from a troll into somebody that was engaging in harassment.</p>
<p>And besides, CJ&#8217;s weblog is popular enough. He doesn&#8217;t need the racist contingent to keep going so the whole &#8220;he thrives on that racist crap&#8221; is just more of your bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/09/validation/#comment-1586</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He means &lt;i&gt;this&lt;/i&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bichon.org/bfca.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bichon Frise Club&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He means <i>this</i> <a href="http://www.bichon.org/bfca.htm" rel="nofollow">Bichon Frise Club</a></p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/09/validation/#comment-1585</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 23:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that TomY and JadeGold have taken over the thread, There is no longer any room for debate or discussion. I guess you can talk to each other (note: congratulations &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; in order).

Incidentally, for the record, there are more than two people in the Republican Party -- I know, I know, they&#039;re the leaders, and everyone in the Republican Party does exactly what they say at all times.

JadeGold: DeLay is &quot;crazy as a bedbug&quot; -- a diagnosis you no doubt arrived at after DeLay&#039;s 72 - hour hospitalization. By the way, you wouldn&#039;t by any chance be aware of the fact that calling a politician you have never met &quot;crazy as a bedbug&quot; is a violation of the APA&#039;a &quot;Goldwater rule&quot;? I&#039;d be willing to bet you have never even heard of the &quot;Goldwater rule&quot;. You may not even have heard of the APA.

You then spout some unsubstantiated (as usual) drivel about Frist, and claim that this makes him immoderate.
As correct as ever.

TomY: You hunted through this entire thread and found that I &quot;explicitly apologized for racism,  typo  or not, TWO TIMES.&quot; So, even if it is a mistake, even if I don&#039;t know when the other time was (I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll tell me), I&#039;m a dyed - in - the - wool, full blown racist?

Well, then, even though &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; know I&#039;m not a racist, I guess you&#039;ve just made me into one. No way around it.

Interestingly, Oliver has pulled off a coup -- he has blogs all over the blogosphere talking about what a fool he made of himself, and two fools defending him here in this thread. And where is he? As usual, nowhere to be found.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that TomY and JadeGold have taken over the thread, There is no longer any room for debate or discussion. I guess you can talk to each other (note: congratulations <i>are</i> in order).</p>
<p>Incidentally, for the record, there are more than two people in the Republican Party &#8212; I know, I know, they&#8217;re the leaders, and everyone in the Republican Party does exactly what they say at all times.</p>
<p>JadeGold: DeLay is &#8220;crazy as a bedbug&#8221; &#8212; a diagnosis you no doubt arrived at after DeLay&#8217;s 72 &#8211; hour hospitalization. By the way, you wouldn&#8217;t by any chance be aware of the fact that calling a politician you have never met &#8220;crazy as a bedbug&#8221; is a violation of the APA&#8217;a &#8220;Goldwater rule&#8221;? I&#8217;d be willing to bet you have never even heard of the &#8220;Goldwater rule&#8221;. You may not even have heard of the APA.</p>
<p>You then spout some unsubstantiated (as usual) drivel about Frist, and claim that this makes him immoderate.<br />
As correct as ever.</p>
<p>TomY: You hunted through this entire thread and found that I &#8220;explicitly apologized for racism,  typo  or not, TWO TIMES.&#8221; So, even if it is a mistake, even if I don&#8217;t know when the other time was (I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll tell me), I&#8217;m a dyed &#8211; in &#8211; the &#8211; wool, full blown racist?</p>
<p>Well, then, even though <i>I</i> know I&#8217;m not a racist, I guess you&#8217;ve just made me into one. No way around it.</p>
<p>Interestingly, Oliver has pulled off a coup &#8212; he has blogs all over the blogosphere talking about what a fool he made of himself, and two fools defending him here in this thread. And where is he? As usual, nowhere to be found.</p>
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		<title>By: Jadegold</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/09/validation/#comment-1584</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I understand that CJ could shut down his comments completely, but why should he? &lt;/i&gt;

Jay C. knows better.  At least I thought so.

There are a number of things CJ could do--were we to assume he&#039;s not a bigot and didn&#039;t encourage such racist rhetoric.  Shutting down his comments is the very last option in a plethora of options.

Again, CJ seems to have no problem moderating those few dissenting comments.

And, he doesn&#039;t have to comb his site, comment by comment, to put a damper on the racists.  All he really need do is make an example out of a few of the more outrageous commenters and it&#039;s likely the other racists will either tone it down or head over to the Anti-American Bichon Frise&#039;s hate site.

That&#039;s just one option--- which I doubt he&#039;ll employ because he thrives on the racist crap.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I understand that CJ could shut down his comments completely, but why should he? </i></p>
<p>Jay C. knows better.  At least I thought so.</p>
<p>There are a number of things CJ could do&#8211;were we to assume he&#8217;s not a bigot and didn&#8217;t encourage such racist rhetoric.  Shutting down his comments is the very last option in a plethora of options.</p>
<p>Again, CJ seems to have no problem moderating those few dissenting comments.</p>
<p>And, he doesn&#8217;t have to comb his site, comment by comment, to put a damper on the racists.  All he really need do is make an example out of a few of the more outrageous commenters and it&#8217;s likely the other racists will either tone it down or head over to the Anti-American Bichon Frise&#8217;s hate site.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just one option&#8212; which I doubt he&#8217;ll employ because he thrives on the racist crap.</p>
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