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		<title>By: mjb</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/02/frog-march-watch/#comment-1114</link>
		<dc:creator>mjb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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&quot;Novak, in an interview, said his sources had come to him with the information. &#039;I didn&#039;t dig it out, it was given to me,&#039; he said. &#039;They thought it was significant, they gave me the name and I used it.&#039;&quot;
Kos talks about this, too.
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&#8220;Novak, in an interview, said his sources had come to him with the information. &#8216;I didn&#8217;t dig it out, it was given to me,&#8217; he said. &#8216;They thought it was significant, they gave me the name and I used it.&#8217;&#8221;<br />
Kos talks about this, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/02/frog-march-watch/#comment-1113</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2005 05:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From your &quot;source&quot;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;though he was reportedly fired from George H.W. Bush&#039;s 1992 reelection campaign&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Having a hard time nailing that Jello to the wall, eh?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From your &#8220;source&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p><i>though he was reportedly fired from George H.W. Bush&#8217;s 1992 reelection campaign</i></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Having a hard time nailing that Jello to the wall, eh?</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/02/frog-march-watch/#comment-1112</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2005 05:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That should be &lt;i&gt;reportedly fired&lt;/i&gt;... And I haven&#039;t had a drink in 19 years!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That should be <i>reportedly fired</i>&#8230; And I haven&#8217;t had a drink in 19 years!</p>
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		<title>By: mr.curmudgeon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/02/frog-march-watch/#comment-1111</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2005 04:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw, forgive misspellings...I&#039;m drunk from the 4th. Celebrating this country&#039;s coming liberation from the tyranny of those criminals currently running Washington.

It was a beautiful day. The coming week looks to be even better.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, forgive misspellings&#8230;I&#8217;m drunk from the 4th. Celebrating this country&#8217;s coming liberation from the tyranny of those criminals currently running Washington.</p>
<p>It was a beautiful day. The coming week looks to be even better.</p>
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		<title>By: mr.curmudgeon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/02/frog-march-watch/#comment-1110</link>
		<dc:creator>mr.curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2005 04:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the question is  Who did it?  Period.&lt;/i&gt;

We know Rove is cooked. His lawyer recently entoned that Heir Karl didn&#039;t &quot;knowingly&quot; exspose Plame covert identity. To me, that pretty much implicates him at a very serious level. &quot;Knowingly&quot; or not...it looks like Rove&#039;s goose is cooked.

We know Rove has used Novak to smear people in past, in fact, &quot;Karl Rove was fired from the 1992 re-election campaign of Bush Sr. for allegedly leaking a negative story about Bush loyalist/fundraiser Robert Mosbacher to Novak.&quot; [&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.harpers.org/WeeklyReview2003-10-07.html#20031007695477090486&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Source&lt;/a&gt;]

Rove hinted in his interview with the grand jury, that 6-7 others were involved in the smear campaign against Wilson (via Plame). Given Rove didn&#039;t have high enough clearance to know Plame&#039;s status could be leveraged against the ambassador, someone else must have passed the info along to him.

So, given that it seems Rove is now &quot;fair game&quot; for the grand jury, I&#039;d say the real question is, &lt;b&gt;&quot;Who *else* did it?&quot;&lt;/b&gt; How high does this go? Bolton? Cheney? ......Bush?

I will be getting a much better sleep this week, methinks, unlike some of those in the capitol.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the question is  Who did it?  Period.</i></p>
<p>We know Rove is cooked. His lawyer recently entoned that Heir Karl didn&#8217;t &#8220;knowingly&#8221; exspose Plame covert identity. To me, that pretty much implicates him at a very serious level. &#8220;Knowingly&#8221; or not&#8230;it looks like Rove&#8217;s goose is cooked.</p>
<p>We know Rove has used Novak to smear people in past, in fact, &#8220;Karl Rove was fired from the 1992 re-election campaign of Bush Sr. for allegedly leaking a negative story about Bush loyalist/fundraiser Robert Mosbacher to Novak.&#8221; [<a href="http://www.harpers.org/WeeklyReview2003-10-07.html#20031007695477090486" rel="nofollow">Source</a>]</p>
<p>Rove hinted in his interview with the grand jury, that 6-7 others were involved in the smear campaign against Wilson (via Plame). Given Rove didn&#8217;t have high enough clearance to know Plame&#8217;s status could be leveraged against the ambassador, someone else must have passed the info along to him.</p>
<p>So, given that it seems Rove is now &#8220;fair game&#8221; for the grand jury, I&#8217;d say the real question is, <b>&#8220;Who *else* did it?&#8221;</b> How high does this go? Bolton? Cheney? &#8230;&#8230;Bush?</p>
<p>I will be getting a much better sleep this week, methinks, unlike some of those in the capitol.</p>
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		<title>By: archpundit</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/02/frog-march-watch/#comment-1109</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2005 03:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing mystifying in Frank&#039;s babbling is this:
Joe Plame betrayed his country

LOL.  Yeah, and how was it that he betrayed his country?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing mystifying in Frank&#8217;s babbling is this:<br />
Joe Plame betrayed his country</p>
<p>LOL.  Yeah, and how was it that he betrayed his country?</p>
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		<title>By: vladimir makovitsa</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/02/frog-march-watch/#comment-1108</link>
		<dc:creator>vladimir makovitsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 18:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Not to mention of our moral overlords who order the death of folks without a second thought.&quot;  - Oliver Willis

&quot;Not to mention of our moral overlords who order the death of folks without a
second thought&quot;  - Bizarro


Who said it?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Not to mention of our moral overlords who order the death of folks without a second thought.&#8221;  &#8211; Oliver Willis</p>
<p>&#8220;Not to mention of our moral overlords who order the death of folks without a<br />
second thought&#8221;  &#8211; Bizarro</p>
<p>Who said it?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/02/frog-march-watch/#comment-1107</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 08:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who think &quot;Independence&quot; means less government, and not just watching &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/capitolfourth/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A Capitol Fourth&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.condipundit.com/?p=252&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Happy Independence Day!&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who think &#8220;Independence&#8221; means less government, and not just watching <a href="http://www.pbs.org/capitolfourth/" rel="nofollow">A Capitol Fourth</a>,<br />
<a href="http://www.condipundit.com/?p=252" rel="nofollow">Happy Independence Day!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/02/frog-march-watch/#comment-1106</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 08:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another great one for you people who think all I do is listen to the radio:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.archives.gov/national_archives_experience/charters/charters.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.archives.gov/national_archives_experience/charters/charters.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.archives.gov/national_archives_experience/charters/charters.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.archives.gov/national_archives_experience/charters/charters.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another great one for you people who think all I do is listen to the radio:<br />
<a href="http://www.archives.gov/national_archives_experience/charters/charters.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.archives.gov/national_archives_experience/charters/charters.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.archives.gov/national_archives_experience/charters/charters.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.archives.gov/national_archives_experience/charters/charters.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/02/frog-march-watch/#comment-1105</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 07:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not about me or the &quot;Repugs&quot;; it&#039;s about Valerie Plame.
Was she a &quot;covert agent&quot; in a legal sense?
Was she &#039;outed&#039; in the usual meaning of the word?

The question to people with &quot;a little more perspective&quot; is not &quot;&lt;i&gt;Did&lt;/i&gt; Karl Rove do it?&quot; or &quot;&lt;i&gt;Why&lt;/i&gt; did Karl Rove do it?&quot;, the question is &quot;Who did it?&quot; Period.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not about me or the &#8220;Repugs&#8221;; it&#8217;s about Valerie Plame.<br />
Was she a &#8220;covert agent&#8221; in a legal sense?<br />
Was she &#8216;outed&#8217; in the usual meaning of the word?</p>
<p>The question to people with &#8220;a little more perspective&#8221; is not &#8220;<i>Did</i> Karl Rove do it?&#8221; or &#8220;<i>Why</i> did Karl Rove do it?&#8221;, the question is &#8220;Who did it?&#8221; Period.</p>
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		<title>By: mr.curmudgeon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/02/frog-march-watch/#comment-1104</link>
		<dc:creator>mr.curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 03:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Thanks to Bill  All he did was lie about a blowjob  Clinton, Rove s  offense , if, indeed, he committed one, has been trivialized.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Only in the minds of conservatives who give &quot;lying about a blowjob&quot; more import than outing an undercover agent working to protect our nation against the proliferation of Weapons of Mass Destruction. (Plame worked the WMD desk at the CIA)

The rest of us have a little more perspective.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Thanks to Bill  All he did was lie about a blowjob  Clinton, Rove s  offense , if, indeed, he committed one, has been trivialized.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Only in the minds of conservatives who give &#8220;lying about a blowjob&#8221; more import than outing an undercover agent working to protect our nation against the proliferation of Weapons of Mass Destruction. (Plame worked the WMD desk at the CIA)</p>
<p>The rest of us have a little more perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: evergreen</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/02/frog-march-watch/#comment-1103</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 01:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I read ( I&#039;m assuming its true ) about how well the intelligence asset (Brewster Jennings, company that Plame worked for) was positioned and how valuable the info we harvested from it was.... I am just in awe at how f*cked you would have to be to be OUT this entire organization. It is absolutely f*cking minboggling.

I can&#039;t believe, even of BUSHCO, that you could be so STUPID as to destroy an organization of this sophistication and penetration. Plame was just one wheel in a very large cog. And now that whole intelligence machine has vaporized!! Instantaneously.

And for what? This is what I don&#039;t get. Petty revenge can&#039;t be the reason. My respect for BUSHCO is as low as it gets. But revenge seems too simplistic even for them ( career insiders of this level should know better, ego then? I&#039;m not buying it ) .

I have a feeling this is not about 1 undercover CIA operative.

Does anyone get the vibe that this is VERY, VERY BIG?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I read ( I&#8217;m assuming its true ) about how well the intelligence asset (Brewster Jennings, company that Plame worked for) was positioned and how valuable the info we harvested from it was&#8230;. I am just in awe at how f*cked you would have to be to be OUT this entire organization. It is absolutely f*cking minboggling.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe, even of BUSHCO, that you could be so STUPID as to destroy an organization of this sophistication and penetration. Plame was just one wheel in a very large cog. And now that whole intelligence machine has vaporized!! Instantaneously.</p>
<p>And for what? This is what I don&#8217;t get. Petty revenge can&#8217;t be the reason. My respect for BUSHCO is as low as it gets. But revenge seems too simplistic even for them ( career insiders of this level should know better, ego then? I&#8217;m not buying it ) .</p>
<p>I have a feeling this is not about 1 undercover CIA operative.</p>
<p>Does anyone get the vibe that this is VERY, VERY BIG?</p>
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		<title>By: evergreen</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 01:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ollie

Lay off that Blue Mountain sherm for a minute and give us some Beltway Insider Buzz ( no pun intended ). This is being discussed with some intensity while your puffing away.
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<p>Lay off that Blue Mountain sherm for a minute and give us some Beltway Insider Buzz ( no pun intended ). This is being discussed with some intensity while your puffing away.</p>
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		<title>By: Jadegold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jadegold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 00:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once more, Frank is wrong.  Rove could easily discredit O&#039;Donnell in a heartbeat if O&#039;Donnell was lying.  But there are only two possible reasons why Rove doesn&#039;t: 1. Rove is a really nice guy and doesn&#039;t want to sully O&#039;Donnell&#039;s reputation; or 2. O&#039;Donnell is telling the truth.

As I noted earlier, the Repugs have already begun to hop aboard the &#039;Bill Clinton did it, too&quot; excuse train.  Frank is already in the Club Car drinking the koolaid.  This is indicative of just how deep the GOP considers the mess they&#039;re in.


Apparently, Frank believes the American public is going to equate lying about an affair with, say, lying about exposing an American undercover agent as an act of political revenge.

No, Frank, they&#039;re not. Here&#039;s why: Probably somewhere around half the nation (maybe more)--Dems and Repugs and whatevers--have committed infidelity.  Or they know someone--a friend, relative, business associate, clergyman, etc--who has.  They may or may not approve but the vast majority don&#039;t consider it a crime or something worthy of a $100M investigation.

OTOH, exposing a covert CIA agent?  When there&#039;s a war on?  No, Frank, I&#039;m very, very confident the American public isn&#039;t going to look favorably on that.

As for the worst case; you might be partly right. The GOP has an extensive record of hiring convicted felons.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once more, Frank is wrong.  Rove could easily discredit O&#8217;Donnell in a heartbeat if O&#8217;Donnell was lying.  But there are only two possible reasons why Rove doesn&#8217;t: 1. Rove is a really nice guy and doesn&#8217;t want to sully O&#8217;Donnell&#8217;s reputation; or 2. O&#8217;Donnell is telling the truth.</p>
<p>As I noted earlier, the Repugs have already begun to hop aboard the &#8216;Bill Clinton did it, too&#8221; excuse train.  Frank is already in the Club Car drinking the koolaid.  This is indicative of just how deep the GOP considers the mess they&#8217;re in.</p>
<p>Apparently, Frank believes the American public is going to equate lying about an affair with, say, lying about exposing an American undercover agent as an act of political revenge.</p>
<p>No, Frank, they&#8217;re not. Here&#8217;s why: Probably somewhere around half the nation (maybe more)&#8211;Dems and Repugs and whatevers&#8211;have committed infidelity.  Or they know someone&#8211;a friend, relative, business associate, clergyman, etc&#8211;who has.  They may or may not approve but the vast majority don&#8217;t consider it a crime or something worthy of a $100M investigation.</p>
<p>OTOH, exposing a covert CIA agent?  When there&#8217;s a war on?  No, Frank, I&#8217;m very, very confident the American public isn&#8217;t going to look favorably on that.</p>
<p>As for the worst case; you might be partly right. The GOP has an extensive record of hiring convicted felons.</p>
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		<title>By: avengingangel</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/02/frog-march-watch/#comment-1100</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2005 20:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s all look forward to &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000212.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;President Bush having to eat his words&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of October 7, 2003 regarding the Plame outing and his White House team:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;I don&#039;t know if we&#039;re going to find out the senior administration official. Now, this is a large administration, and there&#039;s a lot of senior officials.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

For more of Bush&#039;s lack of concern over the breaking scandal, see:

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000212.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;A Nod and a Wink: Bush on the Plame Scandal&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s all look forward to <b><a href="http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000212.htm" rel="nofollow">President Bush having to eat his words</a></b> of October 7, 2003 regarding the Plame outing and his White House team:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;I don&#8217;t know if we&#8217;re going to find out the senior administration official. Now, this is a large administration, and there&#8217;s a lot of senior officials.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>For more of Bush&#8217;s lack of concern over the breaking scandal, see:</p>
<p><b><a href="http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000212.htm" rel="nofollow">&#8220;A Nod and a Wink: Bush on the Plame Scandal&#8221;</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: beerwulf</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/02/frog-march-watch/#comment-1099</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank_D, even if you were right it&#039;s about time Rove got a taste of his own medicine.  Not that he&#039;d learn a lesson from it, but the rest of the GOP might quit being afraid of him and those single-issue lemmings he&#039;s signed up.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank_D, even if you were right it&#8217;s about time Rove got a taste of his own medicine.  Not that he&#8217;d learn a lesson from it, but the rest of the GOP might quit being afraid of him and those single-issue lemmings he&#8217;s signed up.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/02/frog-march-watch/#comment-1098</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to Bill &quot;All he did was lie about a blowjob&quot; Clinton, Rove&#039;s &quot;offense&quot;, if, indeed, he committed one, has been trivialized. Thanks to WJC, you can practically commit a crime in front of the jury and get away with it.
So, worst possible outcome (and I mean &lt;i&gt;worst&lt;/i&gt;):  Rove resigns, remains as power behind the throne until &#039;08, and then gets a think tank job making a quarter of a million a year, speaking fees to match. Talk about &quot;falling up&quot;!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Bill &#8220;All he did was lie about a blowjob&#8221; Clinton, Rove&#8217;s &#8220;offense&#8221;, if, indeed, he committed one, has been trivialized. Thanks to WJC, you can practically commit a crime in front of the jury and get away with it.<br />
So, worst possible outcome (and I mean <i>worst</i>):  Rove resigns, remains as power behind the throne until &#8216;08, and then gets a think tank job making a quarter of a million a year, speaking fees to match. Talk about &#8220;falling up&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/02/frog-march-watch/#comment-1097</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right. It&#039;s an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/lawrence-odonnell/rove-blew-cia-agents-cov_3556.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;update&lt;/a&gt;

One thing O&#039;Donnell is &quot;wrong&quot; about: When he says, &quot;If what I have reported is not true... Rove could prove that instantly...&quot;, he is setting an obvious trap for Rove. &lt;i&gt;Either open up yourself for a media &#039;feeding frenzy&#039; or we can assume you are guilty.&lt;/i&gt; O&#039;Donnell is a life - long Democrat who may hate Rove more than he hates Bush, and he really hates Bush.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right. It&#8217;s an <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/lawrence-odonnell/rove-blew-cia-agents-cov_3556.html" rel="nofollow">update</a></p>
<p>One thing O&#8217;Donnell is &#8220;wrong&#8221; about: When he says, &#8220;If what I have reported is not true&#8230; Rove could prove that instantly&#8230;&#8221;, he is setting an obvious trap for Rove. <i>Either open up yourself for a media &#8216;feeding frenzy&#8217; or we can assume you are guilty.</i> O&#8217;Donnell is a life &#8211; long Democrat who may hate Rove more than he hates Bush, and he really hates Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave M.</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/02/frog-march-watch/#comment-1096</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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I don&#039;t see it. It&#039;s new - from today.
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<p>I don&#8217;t see it. It&#8217;s new &#8211; from today.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/07/02/frog-march-watch/#comment-1095</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe: Thanks. Now I&#039;m sure you have no idea what conservatism is. I thought not.  You probably are confusing conservative with reactionary&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kirkcenter.org/kirk/thought.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Start here&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; =&gt;
By the way, I almost never listen to the radio. I wonder what made you think I did, hmm?

Dave M: That link is in Oliver&#039;s opening salvo
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe: Thanks. Now I&#8217;m sure you have no idea what conservatism is. I thought not.  You probably are confusing conservative with reactionary<a href="http://www.kirkcenter.org/kirk/thought.html" rel="nofollow"><b>Start here</b></a> =><br />
By the way, I almost never listen to the radio. I wonder what made you think I did, hmm?</p>
<p>Dave M: That link is in Oliver&#8217;s opening salvo</p>
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