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	<description>Like Kryptonite To Stupid</description>
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		<title>By: neoconsrloopy</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/06/24/submitted-for-the-record/#comment-550</link>
		<dc:creator>neoconsrloopy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only difference between Kosovo and Iraq is that the Republicans were wrong on both, and the Democrats were right on both.

Clinton had a plan for Kosovo which maximized effect and minimized US casualties.  Bush has neither.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only difference between Kosovo and Iraq is that the Republicans were wrong on both, and the Democrats were right on both.</p>
<p>Clinton had a plan for Kosovo which maximized effect and minimized US casualties.  Bush has neither.</p>
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		<title>By: CommonSenseDesk</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/06/24/submitted-for-the-record/#comment-549</link>
		<dc:creator>CommonSenseDesk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;W, Scarborough And Santorum&lt;/strong&gt;

Oliver Willis has a post with some great memories from the Clinton years.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>W, Scarborough And Santorum</strong></p>
<p>Oliver Willis has a post with some great memories from the Clinton years.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/06/24/submitted-for-the-record/#comment-548</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iraq dead: 1,700
Yugoslavia dead: 0
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iraq dead: 1,700<br />
Yugoslavia dead: 0</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/06/24/submitted-for-the-record/#comment-547</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All you see is role-reversal?

Then maybe you can tell us who the Democrates were who said &quot;the words of George Bush and Rick Santorum put the lives of our troops at risk,&quot; or which one said &quot;You don&#039;t have to look any farther than Joe Scarborough&#039;s words to see what the real motives of conservatives are.&quot;

Which of the Dems said those things, Vincent?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you see is role-reversal?</p>
<p>Then maybe you can tell us who the Democrates were who said &#8220;the words of George Bush and Rick Santorum put the lives of our troops at risk,&#8221; or which one said &#8220;You don&#8217;t have to look any farther than Joe Scarborough&#8217;s words to see what the real motives of conservatives are.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which of the Dems said those things, Vincent?</p>
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		<title>By: O.Y.E.</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/06/24/submitted-for-the-record/#comment-546</link>
		<dc:creator>O.Y.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, but, but....
9-11 changed everything!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, but, but&#8230;.<br />
9-11 changed everything!!</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/06/24/submitted-for-the-record/#comment-545</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who&#039;s generalizing, Zappa? Was Oliver&#039;s point &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; to highlight the dramatic shift in Republican rhetoric between the war in Yugoslavia to the present?

And is the tenor of Democratic &quot;criticism&quot; of the war &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; almost a mirror image of all three of the above cited quotes? Have &quot;no planning, no exit-strategy, total disaster&quot; &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; been trotted out constantly? Is there &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; debate in Congress about demanding a &quot;timetable&quot; to get us out of what Ted Kennedy (and others) has repeatedly called &quot;a quagmire&quot;?

Where&#039;s the generalization? All I see is role-reversal.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who&#8217;s generalizing, Zappa? Was Oliver&#8217;s point <i>not</i> to highlight the dramatic shift in Republican rhetoric between the war in Yugoslavia to the present?</p>
<p>And is the tenor of Democratic &#8220;criticism&#8221; of the war <i>not</i> almost a mirror image of all three of the above cited quotes? Have &#8220;no planning, no exit-strategy, total disaster&#8221; <i>not</i> been trotted out constantly? Is there <i>not</i> debate in Congress about demanding a &#8220;timetable&#8221; to get us out of what Ted Kennedy (and others) has repeatedly called &#8220;a quagmire&#8221;?</p>
<p>Where&#8217;s the generalization? All I see is role-reversal.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/06/24/submitted-for-the-record/#comment-544</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats! You&#039;ve proved that the Democrats are currently acting just as petty and short-sighted as Republicans used to!

Wait. That&#039;s not what you were trying to prove with this little &quot;gotcha!&quot; game, was it?

Well, good try anyways, champ.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats! You&#8217;ve proved that the Democrats are currently acting just as petty and short-sighted as Republicans used to!</p>
<p>Wait. That&#8217;s not what you were trying to prove with this little &#8220;gotcha!&#8221; game, was it?</p>
<p>Well, good try anyways, champ.</p>
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		<title>By: Zappa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zappa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vincent - generalize much?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vincent &#8211; generalize much?</p>
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		<title>By: jesselee</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/06/24/submitted-for-the-record/#comment-542</link>
		<dc:creator>jesselee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, don&#039;t forget DeLay!
&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.dccc.org/mt/archives/003011.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.dccc.org/mt/archives/003011.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blog.dccc.org/mt/archives/003011.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&quot;Bombing a sovereign nation for ill-defined reasons with vague objectives undermines the American stature in the world. The international respect and trust for America has diminished every time we casually let the bombs fly. We must stop giving the appearance that our foreign policy is formulated by the Unabomber.&quot;
-- Floor Statement on Resolution on Peacekeeping Operations in Kosovo, 3/11/99
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, don&#8217;t forget DeLay!<br />
<a href="http://blog.dccc.org/mt/archives/003011.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://blog.dccc.org/mt/archives/003011.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.dccc.org/mt/archives/003011.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Bombing a sovereign nation for ill-defined reasons with vague objectives undermines the American stature in the world. The international respect and trust for America has diminished every time we casually let the bombs fly. We must stop giving the appearance that our foreign policy is formulated by the Unabomber.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; Floor Statement on Resolution on Peacekeeping Operations in Kosovo, 3/11/99</p>
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		<title>By: Fuming Mucker</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/06/24/submitted-for-the-record/#comment-541</link>
		<dc:creator>Fuming Mucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now is the winter of our discontent....  The 9-11-2001 hijackers lived amongst us for years.  And they never &quot;went native.&quot;  Never appreciated that Americans marry, raise children, help their neighbors, welcome visitors...  That we&#039;re thankful for having a good job, clean water, available food...  That we&#039;re thankful for abundant power that drives our cars and appliances

They must have been some cold-hearted killers.

So, instead of influencing them to be more like us.  They shocked-and-awed us to make us more like them.

In the kid world, you&#039;re either a bully, a toady, or one of the hapless rabble of victims.  In the grown-up world..., it&#039;s the same.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now is the winter of our discontent&#8230;.  The 9-11-2001 hijackers lived amongst us for years.  And they never &#8220;went native.&#8221;  Never appreciated that Americans marry, raise children, help their neighbors, welcome visitors&#8230;  That we&#8217;re thankful for having a good job, clean water, available food&#8230;  That we&#8217;re thankful for abundant power that drives our cars and appliances</p>
<p>They must have been some cold-hearted killers.</p>
<p>So, instead of influencing them to be more like us.  They shocked-and-awed us to make us more like them.</p>
<p>In the kid world, you&#8217;re either a bully, a toady, or one of the hapless rabble of victims.  In the grown-up world&#8230;, it&#8217;s the same.</p>
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