Comments on: Karl Rove: King Of Asshattery

By: Zappa

Zappa — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:06:05 +0000

JD – you believe that the Iraq is helping or hurting the war on terror?

By: Vincent

Vincent — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:06:07 +0000

Huh. Rove’s comments were out of line. However, coming from the guy who circled the wagons around Durbin, this seems entirely hypocritical. I guess I’m not surprised.

By: Hillary Now

Hillary Now — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:06:48 +0000

No, we are NOT to blame.

Karl Rove has joined the crazy far religious right, Rush Limbaugh, and Bill O’Reilly in blaming 49% of our country for the September 11 attacks. This has to stop.

Ask for Karl Rove’s resignation.

By: JD

JD — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 03:06:48 +0000

Zappa – If that means fighting them over there, instead of on the streets of Topeka, KS., then yes, it is a far better way to fight the war on terrorism.

Though there is obviously more work to be done on homeland security, we have made significant strides. I agree that shoring up our borders is something that should be addressed, but at the same time, it will be demagogued to death by the Democrats. Funding our fire departments? When exactly did this become a federal priority?

In the end, the alternatives you listed are defensive in nature, options that either repel attacks, or deal with the aftermath. I much prefer taking the offensive.

By: evergreen

evergreen — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 02:06:48 +0000

Well, unfortunately, the firestorm that was supposed to break out ( a conservative populist mobilization heavily fueled by rovian rhetoric…get the boys juiced up again…remember how bad those damn liberals are? ) ….uhhh…didnt. It was an attack that left the right on the defensive instead of the offensive. In other words, you GOT NO MILEAGE from it. Looks like people aren’t buyin that same ol’ line anymore. And for good reason. For your sake I hope they dont abandon ship on the ‘liberal media bias’ lie…or the ‘homosexual agenda’ lie…or the ‘blame america first’ lie…cause without these, you got nothing.

By: Zappa

Zappa — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:06:49 +0000

JD – so you are saying that the war in Iraq is a better way to handle terrorism as oppossed to improved homeland security, funding our fire department or even shoring up the border?

Interesting…it all makes sense now – you guys are ALWAYS WRONG!

By: Mark in Mexico

Mark in Mexico — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:06:19 +0000

But did he mention Hitler?

Karl Rove make a typical political statement and a firestorm breaks out. Well, a firestorm among the Democrats, anyway, which I will admit is more akin to a tempest in a teapot. He said,

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:06:21 +0000

The last election proved that he with the larger megaphone and a whipped press can create all the illusions he wants

Would you say the same thing of the Elections of 1992 and 1996?
I would.

By: JD

JD — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:06:11 +0000

Let’s try to take a look at this a bit rationally. When in the positions of power previously, the Democrats approached terrorism as a law enforcement matter, ie. indictments. Even their presidential candidate, Sen. Kerry, indicated that he felt terrorism was a law enforcement issue. Thus, the indictments aspect of Rove’s quote rings true. Then, if you go back and look at the “blame America”, root causes, what were their motivations groups, it is easy to see how he could make the rhetorical leap to the therapy part of the quote.

The same people that are decrying this rhetoric were defending Sen. Durbin when he compared the actions of our soldiers to Nazi’s, the gulags, and Pol Pot, but now how such feigned moral outrage that they are demanding that a political adviser apologize and resign. Apparently, only one side is allowed to use strong language in the ongoing debate.

Durbin lies and uses a grossly unjust historical analogy to denigrate our troops, and you support that. Rove makes a comment that by its individual parts seems to be a fairly accurate representation of your position, and you moonbats go crazy?

By: evergreen

evergreen — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:06:40 +0000

Keep it up Karl. You are doing us a big favor!! This is my first expression of gratitude to Karl…let’s hope it isnt the last. ( and i doubt it will be ).

By: Oliver

Oliver — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:06:18 +0000

The last election proved that he with the larger megaphone and a whipped press can create all the illusions he wants. Or would you deny the data that those who voted for Bush, especially the hardest core voters, were among America’s least informed. The line you, and Rove, push is both despicable and unconnected to reality.

By: Oliver

Oliver — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:06:55 +0000

The right has and never has been strong on logic or those opposing America. They preached isolationism and Nazi appeasement during WW2, they refused to pull out of Vietnam when they were sending the poor and minorities to die there, and they were in charge when 3,000 Americans were killed by terrorists.

Tell me again why the hell I would ever trust you guys with the simplest sort of security?

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:06:42 +0000

Trust is up to you…
If you’ll never trust a Republican again, what do you want me to do about it?
The left mishandled Korea and Viet Nam, they mishandled Somalia and Haiti. Wars are just not their thing. What can I say?

By: Dugger

Dugger — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:06:31 +0000

Oliver

If its true it ain’t libel. I and the American public think, as the last election demonstrated, the left is weaker on fighting terrorism. What Rove said was right on. What Durbin said was despicable.

Dugger

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:06:05 +0000

The left is. was. and never will be, strong on terrorism…
The Viet nam war bug’s got ‘em, and it won’t let go.

By: Quaker in a Basement

Quaker in a Basement — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:06:03 +0000

“Troops= Nazis/Commies, Liberals= weak response to 9/11.”

The first was never said. What Durbin said was: If I told you what someone did to this prisoner, you’d guess it was done by Nazis, blablabla.

The second is a rather mild paraphrase of what was said. “Liberals wanted to give them therapy.”

By: Oliver

Oliver — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:06:00 +0000

Durbin compared the activities the troops have been ordered to do to atrocities. You and Rove have libeled the left as not being strong on terrorism, when we favored authorizing force into Afghanistan and beyond to defeat terrorism.

By: TomY

TomY — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:06:53 +0000

You’re gight, Farris, Democrats should say nothing when we’re accused of being traitors. Truly your logic has carried the day.

By: Dugger

Dugger — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:06:45 +0000

Sort it out folks. What Rove said was a thousand times removed from what Durbin said. Durbin criticized the troops. Rove criticized the political opposition. Durbin compared the troops to the worst humans in history. Rove basically called the political opposition namby-pambies. So none, not one, of the Democrats who are hyperventilating at Rove said a word about Durbin – meaning, I guess, its OK to describe the troops as Nazis but not OK to indicate the liberals’ response to a terrorist attack was not strong enough. Anybody but me see a huge qualitative difference here. Troops= Nazis/Commies, Liberals= weak response to 9/11. Why is what Rove said so different from Democrats charging Bush lied us into war? Is your thin so skin that you can dish the cr*p out, but can’t take it.

Good for Bush for telling the hypocritical yahoos to stick it.

Dugger

By: SaveFarris

SaveFarris — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:06:31 +0000

Of course, when the person in question has a (D) behind their name, it’s “Give ‘em hell, Howard”, or “Stand Behind Durbin”.

You guys are making this too easy…